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Old 02-06-19, 08:29 AM
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Article over at CBS Sports website about possible MLB rule changes.

Manfred wants pitchers to face a minimum of three batters.( I have been saying this for years)
MLBPA wants the DH for the NL for the 2019 season. (don't care for the pitcher hitting,almost every baseball league in the World has the DH)
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Old 02-06-19, 08:49 AM
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Both of those sound terrible
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I would love for the DH rule to be included in the NL. If anything, it will prolong the careers of older vets.
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Old 02-06-19, 09:18 AM
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Having pitchers earn millions of dollars while just throwing a few pitches 2 or 3 times a week is terrible.

Having pitchers earn their salaries is a brilliant idea.

Even though starters are pitching fewer and fewer innings.

Basically there is a need to re-develop three inning relief pitchers in the minors(where is Mike Marshall when you need him).
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Old 02-06-19, 09:25 AM
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Pitchers earn their salaries, it's not on them how they're utilized. We talked about pitchers facing a minimum number of batters and I just hate changes that deliberately limit strategy and options in game; if a pitcher comes in and immediately gives up consecutive hits, i think its dumb that they can't be immediately yanked. The ultimate goal is pace of the game, and I think some of the other options floated would do that already.

Here's everything talked about - http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25935056/mlb-players-discussing-rule-changes-alter-game

  • A three-batter minimum for pitchers
  • A universal designated hitter
  • A single trade deadline before the All-Star break
  • A 20-second pitch clock
  • The expansion of rosters to 26 men, with a 12-pitcher maximum
  • Draft advantages for winning teams and penalties for losing teams
  • A study to lower the mound
  • A rule that would allow two-sport amateurs to sign major league contracts

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Old 02-06-19, 09:36 AM
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Pitchers earn their salaries, it's not on them how they're utilized. We talked about pitchers facing a minimum number of batters and I just hate changes that deliberately limit strategy and options in game; if a pitcher comes in and immediately gives up consecutive hits, i think its dumb that they can't be immediately yanked. The ultimate goal is pace of the game, and I think some of the other options floated would do that already.

Here's everything talked about - [URL="http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25935056/mlb-players-discussing-rule-changes-alter-game"]http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25935056/mlb-players-discussing-rule-changes-alter-game

I'm somewhat mixed on the DH, but ultimately I think I favor going that direction.

I generally agree with you that rule changes which dramatically limit strategic moves should be avoided, if possible. A hard minimum on number of batters faced for a pitcher seems a little far-reaching. Something like a limit on the total number of pitching changes in the game would be a little less intrusive, but would make managers have to think a lot harder about pulling a pitcher after facing one batter. That too would have pitfalls, like any rule change would, but it's at least closer to what I think would be more appropriate.
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Old 02-06-19, 09:46 AM
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I'm somewhat mixed on the DH, but ultimately I think I favor going that direction.

I generally agree with you that rule changes which dramatically limit strategic moves should be avoided, if possible. A hard minimum on number of batters faced for a pitcher seems a little far-reaching. Something like a limit on the total number of pitching changes in the game would be a little less intrusive, but would make managers have to think a lot harder about pulling a pitcher after facing one batter. That too would have pitfalls, like any rule change would, but it's at least closer to what I think would be more appropriate.
MLB is trying to eliminate the 4.5 hour 2 to 1 nine inning games where the managers have a contest to see who can make the most changes.
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Old 02-06-19, 09:55 AM
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I'm somewhat mixed on the DH, but ultimately I think I favor going that direction.

I generally agree with you that rule changes which dramatically limit strategic moves should be avoided, if possible. A hard minimum on number of batters faced for a pitcher seems a little far-reaching. Something like a limit on the total number of pitching changes in the game would be a little less intrusive, but would make managers have to think a lot harder about pulling a pitcher after facing one batter. That too would have pitfalls, like any rule change would, but it's at least closer to what I think would be more appropriate.
That would be a better compromise.

I prefer keeping the DH, but understand why the MLBPA likes it since it essentially helps players stay in the league. I think its inevitable that it'll eventually be standard.
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Old 02-06-19, 09:59 AM
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Draft advantages for winning teams? Like the Red Sox and other big spenders need draft advantages, I can see that if it is obvious a team is not even trying to put a competitive team on the field that you could punish them. However, penalizing teams for losing would be a very dumb move.
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Old 02-06-19, 10:12 AM
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MLB needs to fix the International signing process. Either the guys go into a draft like the NBA/NHL or they're off limits. Paying money to a team, allotting international dollars, etc is idiotic.

Also, giving winning teams draft advantages is a terrible idea. We know teams tank, but I don't believe players do - ever.
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I'd rather they expand rosters to 26 than add DH to the NL. Also limit the number of pitchers on the roster, because any additional roster spot now will go to another reliever.
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Old 02-06-19, 05:03 PM
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What about double headers when teams get to add a pitcher(hopefully they discontinue that)?
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Old 02-07-19, 07:44 AM
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My source tells me that Bryce Harper will be signing with the Dodgers soon. Boras was using some old fashioned Boras tactics to get the Padres and Giants interest out in the news. The rumors of Bryce wanting to go to the D'Backs was for the same reason but never really gathered steam. All of this was to push the Dodgers offer higher.

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I don't have any sources and this was pure speculation.
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Old 02-07-19, 07:51 AM
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MLB needs to fix the International signing process. Either the guys go into a draft like the NBA/NHL or they're off limits. Paying money to a team, allotting international dollars, etc is idiotic.

Also, giving winning teams draft advantages is a terrible idea. We know teams tank, but I don't believe players do - ever.
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Old 02-07-19, 08:48 AM
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I like the idea of a 3 batter (or end of inning) minimum for pitchers, I like 26 man rosters (28 in September) with a 12 pitcher max ... not a fan of the universal DH. Also like an earlier trade deadline, not sure about before the All Star break though ... maybe mid-July and I think there should still be waiver trades later (injuries happen). As for the draft, I think penalizing teams for multiple bad seasons is fine (not sure what that number should be).
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I think the penalty for multiple bad seasons is a cap on ticket prices relative to how little you spend for the talent on the field. If people are asked to pay to come and watch mediocre to poor teams, you shouldn't be able to poach their wallets and purses.
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I think the penalty for multiple bad seasons is a cap on ticket prices relative to how little you spend for the talent on the field. If people are asked to pay to come and watch mediocre to poor teams, you shouldn't be able to poach their wallets and purses.
Prime Example: Baltimore Orioles

They finished in last place and I don't think they have added one free agent.
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Looks like Ralmuto is going to the Phillies. I really wanted him on the Dodgers, but maybe our prospects will be good enough in a year.
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Hall of Famer Frank Robinson has passed away at age 83.

https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2019/02/07...ILbeJrxaFFxMTc
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Old 02-07-19, 01:45 PM
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Looks like Ralmuto is going to the Phillies. I really wanted him on the Dodgers, but maybe our prospects will be good enough in a year.
Yeah, bummer. Hopefully Ruiz or Smith are ready soon.
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Hall of Famer Frank Robinson has passed away at age 83.

https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2019/02/07...ILbeJrxaFFxMTc
I met him during a card signing back in the early 90ís and was a true gentleman. I was too young to see him live.
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F Robby helped turn the Orioles into the winningest team in MLB from the 1960s into the late 1980's.

Something that the modern day Orioles are clueless.
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Hall of Famer Frank Robinson has passed away at age 83.

https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2019/02/07...ILbeJrxaFFxMTc
I met him once and he had a real presence about him. Even if you didn't know he was a Hall of Famer, you could tell he was important and commanded respect. One of the more underrated players of the 1960s, he's an inner-circle HOFer.
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I think the penalty for multiple bad seasons is a cap on ticket prices relative to how little you spend for the talent on the field. If people are asked to pay to come and watch mediocre to poor teams, you shouldn't be able to poach their wallets and purses.
I like that one - a lot.
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