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Old 10-01-14, 01:03 PM
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Does anybody want to host the 2022 Winter Olympics?

Davos, Munich, Stockholm, Krakow, and Lviv have withdrawn their bids. Today, Oslo is also pulling out. The finalist will be announced next year and the three two remaining candidate cities are Almaty (Kazakhstan), and Beijing.


2018 (Pyeongchang) and 2020 (Tokyo) are already set, so I don't know if the IOC wants to go to East Asia three Olympics in a row. As bad as the East Asian time zones are for North America, Kazakhstan's time zone isn't really that much better, but I guess Kazakhstan still works for European viewers.

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Re: Does anybody want to host the 2022 Winter Olympics?

It's been a while, but back in 2010 the city of Dayton was rumored to be considering a bid. Here's the archived Wikipedia entry....
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Dayton's bid includes state-of-the-art facilities such as Welcome Stadium (opening/closing ceremonies), Ervin J. Nutter Center (figure skating), Hara Arena (ice hockey), Hobart Arena in nearby Troy (curling), and Mad River Mountain (downhill events). Luge, Skeleton and Bobsleigh events would be hosted on newly-constructed tracks adjacent to King's Island in Cincinnati that would later be converted for use at the Boomerang Bay waterpark. Ski jumping would be accomplished via innovative new "virtual jump" technology developed by Japan's Nintendo Corporation in association with the Air Force Systems Command's Virtual Reality Laboratory at nearby Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. Athletes would be housed in the currently-vacant Winters Bank Tower in downtown Dayton, and in the Drexel and Trotwood neighborhoods. Dayton has built a warchest of approximately $170 to help fund their bid, and are considered the front-runner of all American bids from cities nowhere near any mountains.
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Re: Does anybody want to host the 2022 Winter Olympics?

Originally Posted by kenbuzz View Post
Dayton has built a warchest of approximately $170 to help fund their bid.
Can we get that $170 adjusted for inflation? Possibly up to $173.93 now.
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The finalist will be announced next year and the three remaining candidate cities are Almaty (Kazakhstan), and Beijing.
What's the third?
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What's the third?
There's only two.
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Originally Posted by starman9000 View Post
What's the third?
I've seen some conflicting stuff about whether or not Lviv, Ukraine is officially out of it. I updated one part of the post to include them as one of the cities that have withdrawn, but forgot to change "three" to "two."


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Can Dayton realistically host? I think the minimum vertical drop for the men's downhill is 800 meters. Is there any ski area in the midwest with more than 800 feet of vertical?
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Re: Does anybody want to host the 2022 Winter Olympics?

Gotcha.

Looks like Mt. Bohemia in Michigan barely meets that requirement, not that I know anything about that area.
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Maybe if there weren't so many examples of abandoned Olympics facilities that cost billions of dollars to build, they could start to maintain them and reuse them in a cycle every few years (countries embroiled in civil war or who go bankrupt, I give you a pass).
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It might be time to call a wrap on the modern Olympic games anyway.
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Sure. Dictators love to host.
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It might be time to call a wrap on the modern Olympic games anyway.
I agree with you. Between the abandoned structures in host cities, the debt, the corruption, and all the rest of it, it's not worth it.
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And to think of all the perfectly good bribe money Mitt Romney and the LDS Church wasted on the IOC some 15 years ago. Times have changed.
Why the Hell doesn't Denver ever make a bid?
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And to think of all the perfectly good bribe money Mitt Romney and the LDS Church wasted on the IOC some 15 years ago. Times have changed.
Why the Hell doesn't Denver ever make a bid?
Good historical fact - Denver was actually awarded the '76 Winter Olympics but Colorado had a bond issue for $5M to finance those games and it failed, so they had to withdraw their bid.
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I would actually watch the dayton winter olympics, with the virtual reality ski jumping. That would be sweet.
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Just put the skiing out west and tell the rest of the world it's near Dayton. Only the U.S. has the Internet, right? They'd never find out.
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If Dayton can't host the actual Olympic games, maybe they can at least host the Play-in First Round of competition.
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Re: Does anybody want to host the 2022 Winter Olympics?

I hope Almaty wins, that way we can hear the glorious Kazakhstan national anthem:

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Bach: IOC will not reopen 2022 Olympic bid race

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LONDON — The IOC will not reopen the bidding process for the 2022 Winter Olympics, even though only two cities are left in the troubled race following Oslo's withdrawal.

"The IOC is sticking to its commitments," IOC President Thomas Bach told The Associated Press on Thursday. "We have issued the invitation for bidding. There is a clear and transparent procedure. We will follow this procedure with two candidates."

Oslo became the fourth city to drop out of the bidding on Wednesday after the Norwegian government declined to provide financial support, citing concerns over the cost of hosting the games.

The move leaves Beijing and Almaty, Kazakhstan, as the only two remaining candidates. Neither are established winter sports countries, and both are targets of human rights critics.

"We are in the middle of a procedure," Bach said. "We cannot and we do not want to change the regulations in the middle of the race, given the fact that we still have two very interesting candidatures with a very diverse approach."

The IOC will select the 2022 host city on July 31, 2015, in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

Beijing, which staged the 2008 Olympics, is seeking to become the first city to host both summer and winter games. Almaty, located in Central Asia, hosted the 2011 Winter Asian Games and will stage the 2017 Winter University Games.

Stockholm; Krakow, Poland; and Lviv, Ukraine, withdrew their 2022 bids in recent months. Before that, potentially strong bids from St. Moritz, Switzerland, and Munich, Germany, were rejected by voters in referendums.

Oslo was forced to pull out after the ruling Conservative party rejected financial guarantees for the games. The junior partner in the minority coalition voted against the bid four months ago, and polls have shown that more than 50 percent of Norwegians are opposed.

"For me the decision was no surprise at all," Bach said by telephone from Lausanne, Switzerland. "This was clearly a political decision. You have a minority coalition government. It's very rare that a minority coalition government is taking the risk of losing or giving up its coalition for the sake of a project which shows its benefits only after the next election day."

On Wednesday, in an unusually strongly-worded statement, IOC executive director Christophe Dubi said Norway's decision to pull out was based on "half-truths and factual inaccuracies." He blamed the bid team for failing to send a senior leader or government official to a meeting about the requirements and costs.

Bach told the AP that separate meetings with Oslo and the two other bid teams took place on Tuesday in Lausanne, a day before the Norwegian government debate.

"Contrary to prior announcements, no government representative was in this meeting," Bach said. "Everybody can draw his own conclusions."

Bach said Norway is missing out on $880 million in sponsorship and television revenues that the IOC will be providing to the 2022 organizers, a 25-percent increase over the sum Vancouver received for the 2010 Olympics.

"All this shows that this was very much a political decision," Bach said. "This why we are feeling so sorry for sport in Norway and the athletes."

Bach acknowledged that the Winter Games are facing a difficult period.

"The number of candidates for winter is already very limited by geography," he said. "Also we can't forget that this is a challenging time with regard to the world economy."

But Bach insisted the image and brand of the Olympics remains strong, citing the recent signing of long-term commercial agreements, including NBC's record $7.75 billion deal for U.S. rights through 2032.

"The Olympic Games are and will be the premium product," he said. "Nobody would enter into such kind of agreements if there would be a doubt on the image."

Many cities have been scared off by the record $51 billion price tag associated with the 2014 Winter Games in Sochi, Russia. While most of that money went to long-term regeneration and infrastructure projects, not the cost of running the games, cities remain wary of the expense.

"We have to communicate, communicate, communicate about the two different budgets," Bach said. "We have to see how we can reduce the costs of the management of the games and the cost of bidding for the games."

Oslo's exit ensures the Olympics will be going to Asia for a third consecutive time, following the 2018 Winter Games in Pyeongchang, South Korea, and 2020 Olympics in Tokyo. Normally, the IOC prefers to rotate the games among continents.

"You look into economy or sports, it's always the same, everywhere the same," Bach said. "Asia is on the rise."

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Re: Does anybody want to host the 2022 Winter Olympics?

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Can Dayton realistically host? I think the minimum vertical drop for the men's downhill is 800 meters. Is there any ski area in the midwest with more than 800 feet of vertical?

Linky: http://skimadriver.com/mountain-stats.html

Mad River Mountain has a 300 foot vertical drop, so they could just do the Men's Downhill as a series of laps. 9 laps should do it. Not a problem.
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IOC will be voting on 2022 later this week.

Sounds like Beijing is the favorite, but Almaty is making it interesting: http://news.yahoo.com/olympics-almat...074831477.html
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Yay, Boston nixed the Big Dig 2, I mean the summer 2024 Olympics!

The only people that were really strongly on board with this in the first place were the hacks who were going to rake in the cash. And NOBODY believed them when they said that taxpayer money wouldn't be needed.
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I have no idea why anyone hosts the Olympics. It's a huge money sink.
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I have no idea why anyone hosts the Olympics. It's a huge money sink.
I don't see why it has to be. Boston has a ton of colleges and universities in the area. Many of the facilities probably already exist.

Going back to the 2022 Olympics, Almaty recently hosted the Asian Winter Games in 2011. So they pretty much already have all the facilities anyway. Does Beijing already have luge and speedskating, etc? Or will they have to build everything from scratch? And that's probably why Beijing will win.
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Old 07-28-15, 12:34 PM
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Sucks that NBC bought the games through to 2032. Damn!!
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I have no idea why anyone hosts the Olympics. It's a huge money sink.
Real Sports did a segment about how these cities are burdened with debt and empty stadiums after they host the Winter/Summer games. Atleast in the US, we have multiple stadium facilities that can handle an Olympic Games (and I still don't think its worth it), where alot of countries built multiple stadiums/facilities and never use them after. This happens alot with the World Cup as I believe that Brazil who just hosted it in 2014 mortgaged the future for all of these stadiums and doesn't know what to do with them?
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