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Old 06-06-15, 10:15 PM
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I can't believe the drought is FINALLY over. I love that it happened the year after Coburn's retarded rant about new shooters being unfair.
Second that. I really wanted I'll Have Another to do it, but this works.

Just praying they don't retire him. Already have Breeders Cup tickets.
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Old 06-06-15, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by classicman2 View Post
At the top of the stretch Frosted moved on AF - Espinoza tapped him on the shoulder - it was all over.

How did the Pletcher horse finish?
Oh you mean the one with the jockey you slobber over constantly....
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Old 06-06-15, 11:43 PM
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I collect newspapers for big sports events like this. What's the best next-day coverage for this? DRF? Other options?
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Hopefully it's front page on the NY Times, I will be looking for a copy tomorrow.
NYT and WP I think.

Will be interesting to see Andy Beyer's take. He was all in against AP from the Derby through Belmont.
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Old 06-07-15, 12:40 AM
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He made up for his slow Derby and Preakness times with the second fastest Triple Crown winning Belmont.
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Old 06-07-15, 04:07 AM
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Hmm the NYT front page isn't as cool as I hoped it would be. you can find a front page replica on their website by clicking "today's paper" on the bottom. The NY edition is slightly better than the national edition but the coverage is a bit small.
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Old 06-07-15, 07:30 AM
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Oh you mean the one with the jockey you slobber over constantly....
Surely you know enough about horse racking to know that the horse wins the race - not the jockey - well maybe you don't.
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Old 06-07-15, 07:36 AM
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He made up for his slow Derby and Preakness times with the second fastest Triple Crown winning Belmont.
What was the track condition at The Preakness? I wouldn't expect him to run a fast time in the slop. Maybe you would.

The Derby - remember he was 'taken wide' and still won.

He's the best 3-year old I've seen - maybe since 2007.
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Old 06-07-15, 08:09 AM
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"We were going slow enough, with those fractions, but I didn't have anything," Materiality's jockey, John Velazquez said. "I was in trouble as soon as we got to the backstretch. American Pharoah is a great horse. That's the only way you can describe him. My horse ran as good as he could, but he was done early. The best horse won the race."
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Old 06-07-15, 11:25 AM
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105 Beyer.


Originally Posted by Autotelik View Post
Hmm the NYT front page isn't as cool as I hoped it would be.
Yep, it's pretty lame actually. I was expecting a big headline indicative of the history that took place yesterday.


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"We were going slow enough, with those fractions, but I didn't have anything," Materiality's jockey, John Velazquez said. "I was in trouble as soon as we got to the backstretch. American Pharoah is a great horse. That's the only way you can describe him. My horse ran as good as he could, but he was done early. The best horse won the race."
I don't think anyone needs Johnny V to tell them that.

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The WP front page was lame too.
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I went to get a copy of the NY Times but strangely the Triple Crown part wasnt on the front page like it shows on their website. They were out of the WP.
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If the NY Times has a late sunday edition, that must have been the one you saw. I got the one shown on their website this morning at my local Barnes and Noble, as I knew they would have some left. The sports section has a full page spread, so I decided to buy it. $6 ain't cheap, but I like memorabilia like this and even frame some of my papers in a 14x24 frame.

You might have to hunt around for it.
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Old 06-08-15, 09:18 AM
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I believe some of our members believe that California Chrome was a better horse than American Pharoah.
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Who?
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Old 06-09-15, 07:19 PM
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I wonder if he's going to continue racing? Zayet (sp), his owner, at first indicated he would not run anymore. Maybe he's changed his mind.
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All I have heard is that he intends to keep racing him until the Breeders Cup.
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I believe some of our members believe that California Chrome was a better horse than American Pharoah.
I'm ecstatic that AP won the year after California Chrome's whiny ass owner bitched and moaned about how hard the Triple Crown is and should be changed and how it's unfair, blah, blah, blah. Personally I hope we never hear from that raging douchebag ever again.
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Old 06-10-15, 09:10 AM
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What amazes me is some of the ignorance show by supposedly horse racing fans . examples: there was no comparison between the last triple crown winner (Secretariat) & AP. And here at thought all along that there 2 triple crown winners after Secretariat won! I guess Seattle Slew & Affirmed don't count.

In addition - the field in the 1973 Belmont consisted of 5 horses. Don't look it up - name the other 4.
It was the weakest field ever for the Belmont.
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Stephen Foster Handicap (G1)
6/13/2015, Churchill Downs , 9:42 PM ET
1 1/8 m (Dirt)
4+ M
TV: NBCSN

1. Commissioner, Javier Castellano, 3-1
2. Lea, Joel Rosario, 7-5
3. Paganol, Robby Albarado, 20-1
4. Noble Bird, Shaun Bridgmohan, 10-1
5. Hoppertunity, Mike Smith, 5-2
6. Majestic Harbor, Corey Lanerie, 12-1
7. Cat Burglar, Victor Espinoza, 8-1.
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Old 06-12-15, 08:17 AM
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I'm looking forward to June 17th when America's darling runs in The Prince of Wales.

I wonder what excuse the owner will come with when his horse suffers another humiliating defeat?
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Old 06-12-15, 08:21 AM
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Stephen Foster Handicap (G1)
6/13/2015, Churchill Downs , 9:42 PM ET
1 1/8 m (Dirt)
4+ M
TV: NBCSN

1. Commissioner, Javier Castellano, 3-1
2. Lea, Joel Rosario, 7-5
3. Paganol, Robby Albarado, 20-1
4. Noble Bird, Shaun Bridgmohan, 10-1
5. Hoppertunity, Mike Smith, 5-2
6. Majestic Harbor, Corey Lanerie, 12-1
7. Cat Burglar, Victor Espinoza, 8-1.
This is a good field. I don't have a clue as to the winner. The Stephen Foster generally has top-notch horses running in the field

I see the purse is $500,000. I thought this once was a million dollar purse.

Hmm! Once again I was correct - when Curlin won it was a $1 million dollar purse.

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What's with your hatred for California Chrome? Did he insult Curlin's mother or something?
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What's with your hatred for California Chrome? Did he insult Curlin's mother or something?
I hope your not comparing CC with Curlin.
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Old 06-13-15, 02:26 PM
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American Pharoaph's stud fee when he stands at Coolmore will be between $175,000 to $200.000.

That's pretty high.

Of course another small sire, Northern Dancer, once had a million dollar stud fee.
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American Pharoaph's stud fee when he stands at Coolmore will be between $175,000 to $200.000.

That's pretty high.

Of course another small sire, Northern Dancer, once had a million dollar stud fee.
Is that $1M in current dollars or $1M at the time, otherwise, I'm calling bullshit on your claim (if the latter). And I realize that Northern Dancer is the stud of studs.
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