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Old 10-06-11, 05:25 PM
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MLB 2011-2012 Offseason Thread

White Sox hire Robin Ventura as manager.

Can't wait till the White Sox play the Texas Rangers

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That's the first thing I thought of at the mention of Ventura
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Re: MLB 2011-2012 Offseason Thread

Like you guys, the first thing I thought is Nolan Ryan kicking his ass.
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Re: MLB 2011-2012 Offseason Thread

A little surprised at this move, considering Ventura's lack of experience. That, and I figured Ventura must have a fear of being in the same stadium as Nolan Ryan.
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Re: MLB 2011-2012 Offseason Thread

I guess this is old news, and a low-level prospect, but

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/1...-auto-accident

Houston prospect Dustin Kellogg killed in auto accident

Oct. 4, 2011

HOUSTON -- Houston Astros prospect Dustin Kellogg was killed in an automobile accident late Monday night.

Kellogg died when the pickup truck he was driving collided with a freight truck in suburban Houston, according to the Texas Department of Public Safety.

The DPS said the freight truck driver was not injured in the crash. Kellogg was pronounced dead at the scene.

The 18-year-old pitcher was picked by the Astros in the 34th round of this year's amateur draft. He appeared in six games for the Astros Gulf Coast League team and had a 1-1 record with a 4.26 ERA. He had nine strikeouts in the 6 1/3 innings he pitched.

"He was a great kid with high energy and a lot of confidence, and performed well for us after signing," Astros' assistant general manager and scouting director Bobby Heck said. "This is a huge loss for everyone that knew him."

Heck said Kellogg, who went to high school in the Houston suburb of Conroe, was very excited to be pitching for his hometown team and that the Astros were happy to "make his dream come true."

Houston general manager Ed Wade said his thoughts were with Kellogg's family and friends.

"We are deeply saddened by the news of Dustin's passing," Wade said. "Although he had only been an Astros player for a short time, we share the pain of his family. Our prayers go out to Dustin's loved ones."
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Re: MLB 2011-2012 Offseason Thread

Sad news about Kellogg. I guess we can mark off The White Sox as an option for La Russa. I guess he will either stay with the Cardinals or retire after this season. I guess he could go to the Red Sox but don't see any reason why he would even want that job and the pressure.
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Yankees season is over. I think I'll settle in here for the next few months.

"Someone get CJ Wilson's agent on the phone" -Brian Cashman in December
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Maybe Zambrano is starting to look attractive to the Yanks...?
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Re: MLB 2011-2012 Offseason Thread

CJ wilson is a priority for the Yankees... and so is the inevitable CC opt out
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Re: MLB 2011-2012 Offseason Thread

If CC opts out of his 23 million per and gets even more money then whatever team that pays him is dumb as hell.
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I'd be surprised if CC officially opts out... but I do expect the Yankees to give him an additional year or two on the back end of his current deal. That dude might be pushing 350lbs... that has to be a concern for the management.
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CC is 290 lbs. and he dropped 30 lbs last offseason. He might still look like a giant fat ass but he really isn't as big as you think.

And he'll opt out but I don't think he'll end up with more money. I agree it'll be a year or two to the end of the deal but the yearly $ amount won't increase.
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Bobby Valentine on ESPN seemed sure that CC would opt out, and he thought CC would go elsewhere. Seemed fairly confident, with that little know it all smirk of his. Makes me wonder if he knows something we don't.
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^They said the same about A-Rod. He'll opt out but he's only going somewhere else if he doesn't want to be a Yankee anymore or if he feels he can get more money elsewhere.

Are either of those things true?

He's been a Yankee for 3 years and posted close to Cy Young numbers each year and has won a championship. So I'd be hard pressed to think he didn't want to stay here.

And who else would pay him more than he's making now?
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The Twins top brass had a conference call with season ticket holders. It was pretty depressing. The plan for next year is basically to hope everyone plays better. That and add a SS and backup catcher (you know, the two positions we traded away for garbage the past 2 years).
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With more teams wrapping up their seasons, I wonder if the Cubs will start to make progress on their GM hunt. The two big issues are Z and A-Ram, and I don't think there's any hurry to make a move on Z. A-Ram sounds like he's going to go FA regardless and I'm OK with him walking. Yeah, they don't have anyone ready and would suck more without him, but it's not like they were going to contend next year anyway, and I'd rather have a hole for a year than sign a guy to multiple years who's going to decline at the time you're hoping to improve. (Not sure how much of a market there is to give him the multiple years he wants anyway.)
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With more teams wrapping up their seasons, I wonder if the Cubs will start to make progress on their GM hunt. The two big issues are Z and A-Ram, and I don't think there's any hurry to make a move on Z. A-Ram sounds like he's going to go FA regardless and I'm OK with him walking. Yeah, they don't have anyone ready and would suck more without him, but it's not like they were going to contend next year anyway, and I'd rather have a hole for a year than sign a guy to multiple years who's going to decline at the time you're hoping to improve. (Not sure how much of a market there is to give him the multiple years he wants anyway.)
I thought I heard that they asked permission to talk to Theo Epstein for the GM position couple days ago.
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I'm interested to see if the Blue Jays and AA will take part in free agency this offseason. We have some major needs in the 2nd base, bullpen and starting pitching.
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^They said the same about A-Rod. He'll opt out but he's only going somewhere else if he doesn't want to be a Yankee anymore or if he feels he can get more money elsewhere.

Are either of those things true?

He's been a Yankee for 3 years and posted close to Cy Young numbers each year and has won a championship. So I'd be hard pressed to think he didn't want to stay here.

And who else would pay him more than he's making now?
I agree with the analysis, except for the fact that his on-field performance doesn't necessarily mean he's happy there.

I have no idea, and conventional wisdom has been that he stays (opt out or not), so Bobby V's prediction (and he seemed pretty confident) struck me as interesting, and made me wonder if he knows something I don't.
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With more teams wrapping up their seasons, I wonder if the Cubs will start to make progress on their GM hunt. The two big issues are Z and A-Ram, and I don't think there's any hurry to make a move on Z. A-Ram sounds like he's going to go FA regardless and I'm OK with him walking. Yeah, they don't have anyone ready and would suck more without him, but it's not like they were going to contend next year anyway, and I'd rather have a hole for a year than sign a guy to multiple years who's going to decline at the time you're hoping to improve. (Not sure how much of a market there is to give him the multiple years he wants anyway.)
My guess is you get both Epstein and Francona there next year. Z is gone and I pray the Tigers don't sign Ramirez... though his name always seems to come up (on sports radio anyways).
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I think Theo really, really wants that Cubs job. If he can get them a World Series he'll have a whole lot to hang his hat on.

Same goes for Tito.

And I wonder who the Red Sox plan to hire to fill the manager and possibly the GM job.
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Bobby Valentine on ESPN seemed sure that CC would opt out, and he thought CC would go elsewhere. Seemed fairly confident, with that little know it all smirk of his. Makes me wonder if he knows something we don't.
who the hell could possibly afford to pay him more than what he's making now outside of the yankees? unless somehow the Marlins decide to spend like $100 million in the off season b/c of their new stadium.
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I thought I heard that they asked permission to talk to Theo Epstein for the GM position couple days ago.
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My guess is you get both Epstein and Francona there next year. Z is gone and I pray the Tigers don't sign Ramirez... though his name always seems to come up (on sports radio anyways).
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I think Theo really, really wants that Cubs job. If he can get them a World Series he'll have a whole lot to hang his hat on.

Same goes for Tito.

And I wonder who the Red Sox plan to hire to fill the manager and possibly the GM job.
Very possible, as I'm not totally up on the latest news. I could totally see it if Theo's goal is to declare himself an official deity.
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Dbacks need to get a full time 3rd baseman. Either lock up Roberts to do the job cheap and resign Hill for a season or two, or get a power hitting player to fill that position. I'd also like to see them trade Saunders for something. He's not worth the money he is going to make next year.
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who the hell could possibly afford to pay him more than what he's making now outside of the yankees? unless somehow the Marlins decide to spend like $100 million in the off season b/c of their new stadium.
I agree, it seems nuts. But hey, he may not be looking for more money. Maybe more years for Cliff Lee money would be good enough.

But I do think the Yankees make the most sense.
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