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Old 08-10-11, 11:36 AM
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PGA Championship 2011, August 11-14

93rd PGA Championship: Facts & figures:

• SITE: Atlanta Athletic Club (Highlands), Johns Creek, Ga.

• COURSE FACTS: 7,467 yards, par 70. Founded in 1898, Atlanta AC holds distinction as the club where Bobby Jones learned the game. As the neighborhood deteriorated around the original East Lake site, though, the club moved in 1967 to a new locale in the north suburbs. Robert Trent Jones and Joe Finger designed the Highlands layout, which attracted 1976 U.S. Open for its major debut. PGA Championships followed in 1981 and 2001.

• FORMAT: 72 holes, stroke play. Field cut to top 70 and ties after 36 holes. Three-hole playoff, if necessary, immediately after final round.

• FIELD: 156 professionals, including 98 of the top 100 in golf's world rankings. South Africa's Tim Clark (elbow) and Belgium's Nicolas Colsaerts (scooter accident) are the only expected absences. The field also includes 20 PGA club pros.

• PURSE: Announced during the week. Last year's PGA offered $7.5 million ($1.35 million to winner).

• DEFENDING CHAMPION: Martin Kaymer (72-68-67-70–277 at Whistling Straits), defeating Bubba Watson in a three-hole playoff.

• LAST YEAR: Though Kaymer's name went on the trophy, the 2010 PGA will be remembered more for Dustin Johnson's penalty-inducing gaffe on the final hole of regulation. Taking a one-shot lead to the 18th tee, Johnson's drive flew well off to the right and settled in one of the 1,000-plus bunkers that dot Whistling Straits. Thinking the patch of sand was ground worn from spectator traffic, Johnson placed his 4-iron behind the ball before his second shot – incurring a two-stroke penalty for grounding his club in a hazard. That ruled him out of the playoff, where Kaymer prevailed on the final hole after Watson found water.

• LAST TIME AT ATLANTA AC: Locked in a Sunday duel with Phil Mickelson, David Toms sealed a one-stroke victory by playing it safe at the 490-yard final hole. After pushing his drive into the rough, Toms laid up with a pitching wedge and then coaxed a lob wedge to settle 12 feet from the hole. One putt later, Toms had set the major-championship scoring record at 15-under-par 265.

• MAJOR CHAMPIONS AT ATLANTA AC: Jerry Pate (1976 U.S. Open), Larry Nelson (1981 PGA), David Toms (2001 PGA).

• CHANGES: A 2006 Rees Jones overhaul added 14 new tees and extended the layout by 273 yards, making AAC fifth-longest in PGA history. The most visual change comes at the par-4 sixth hole, where a new pond guards the left side of the fairway all the way to the green. Most influential, though, is a change likely to hardly be noticed – new versions of heat-hardy grasses that run far less risk of being on life support even when cut to major-championship speeds.

• FORMER CHAMPIONS IN FIELD: Larry Nelson (1981, '87), John Daly (1991), Steve Elkington (1995), Mark Brooks (1996), Davis Love III (1997), Vijay Singh (1998, '04), Tiger Woods (1999, '00, '06, '07), David Toms (2001), Rich Beem (2002), Shaun Micheel (2003), Phil Mickelson (2005), Padraig Harrington (2008), Y.E. Yang (2009), Martin Kaymer (2010).
TV Coverage:

Thursday, Aug. 11
1-7 p.m.: First round, TNT

Friday, Aug. 12
1-7 p.m.: Second round, TNT

Saturday, Aug. 13
11 a.m.-2 p.m.: Third round, TNT
2-7 p.m.: Third round, CBS

Sunday, Aug. 14
11 a.m.-2 p.m.: Final round, TNT
2-7 p.m.: Final round, CBS
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Old 08-10-11, 11:39 AM
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Re: PGA Championship 2011, August 11-14

vegasinsider.com odds....YMMV

Field 7/1
Rory McIlroy 7/1
Phil Mickleson 10/1
Luke Donald 12/1
Lee Westwood 12/1
Martin Kaymer 14/1
Tiger Woods 14/1
Dustin Johnson 16/1
Sergio Garcia 18/1
Steve Stricker 18/1
Matt Kuchar 20/1
Jason Day 20/1
Charl Schwartzel 25/1
Nick Watney 25/1
Rickie Fowler 30/1
Hunter Mahan 30/1
Bubba Watson 35/1
Graeme McDowell 35/1
KJ Choi 35/1
Ian Poulter 40/1
Justin Rose 40/1
Adam Scott 40/1
Ernie Els 50/1
Geoff Ogilvy 50/1
Padraig Harrington 50/1
Zach Johnson 50/1
Bo Van Pelt 60/1
Brandt Snedeker 60/1
Louis Oosthuizen 60/1
Darren Clarke 65/1
YE Yang 65/1
Ryan Moore 75/1
Ricky Barnes 80/1
Lucas Glover 80/1
Robert Allenby 100/1
Webb Simpson 100/1
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Old 08-10-11, 03:59 PM
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Re: PGA Championship 2011, August 11-14

Tiger at 14 to 1?

I'd say Adam Scott looks pretty good at 20 to 1 'cept you hardly ever see guys win in back to back weeks. Laughable that Poulter is also 40 to 1. He hasn't played any good golf in a long time.

Glover at 80 to 1 is a nice bet and Webb Simpson has been playing as good as anyone this year at 100 to 1.

I'll go with Fowler at 30 to 1
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Re: PGA Championship 2011, August 11-14

Tiger has quite a card right now.

He birdied 3 of the first 5 holes, but then went +7 over the next 6 holes. Looks like he'll be able to enjoy the weekend at home.
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Re: PGA Championship 2011, August 11-14

Tiger finished with a +7, 14 strokes off the current lead. It's looking like either an E or +1 cut as of now so he has a lot of work to do tomorrow.
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Re: PGA Championship 2011, August 11-14

Stick a fork in him. Can anyone remember a sports figure falling so hard, so fast?

A 63 for Stricker. The players are going to eat this course alive. It will be like the U.S. Open except with a bunch of McIlroy-like scores. I wouldn't be surprised to see 4-day scores in the 260-265 range.
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[QUOTE=Red Dog;10886066]Stick a fork in him. Can anyone remember a sports figure falling so hard, so fast?
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Maybe Mike Tyson.

For some reason it makes me sad. I know Tiger is a prick, but I never cared about any of that stuff. I just loved watching him play good golf. I like to be able to say that I saw the best. I followed him since before he even won his first US Amateur and was planning on watching him dominate for another 10 plus years and be able to say that I watched the greatest golfer that ever lived for his ENTIRE career. A couple years ago it never even entered my mind that he wouldn't pass Nicklaus. It just bums me out that a guy I practically idolized (for his play, not for his personal life because I don't care what celebrities do) for the last 15 years has suddenly shit the bed and in some ways I feel like I wasted the last 15 years of my life watching him because he's apparently flamed out so quickly and the one thing I wanted him to do (break Jack's record) seems pretty much unobtainable at this point.
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Tiger still has plenty of time to do it if he refocuses himself. I don't see why he couldn't be in another 10 years worth of majors if he keeps himself healthy. I'm not saying that it's going to happen but the opportunity is there if he wants it bad enough.
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Re: PGA Championship 2011, August 11-14

I'm going to save a screen-grab of this leaderboard, doubt I'll ever see the 2 (relevant) pro golfers from Wisconsin on top of a major at the same time. Would be nice if at least one of them stuck around up there until Sunday...
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Re: PGA Championship 2011, August 11-14

Yeah - Tyson was quite a fall. But at least he got to come back and fight in major title bouts, so he was on the boxing radar.

The problem with Tiger is not that he isn't winning. It's that, except for a few top-5 Masters, he's not even close to contending - in majors or non-majors.
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Re: PGA Championship 2011, August 11-14

So much for my pick to win: Rickie Fowler
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"I'm not down, I'm just very angry right now," Woods said after shooting his highest opening round in a major championship and highest ever at the PGA. "I thought I could play by feel, see the shot, hit the shot. I'm not at that point yet."
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Stick a fork in him. Can anyone remember a sports figure falling so hard, so fast?
If you want to talk golf.. Duval would probably be the guy, no? Maybe Daly?
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Re: PGA Championship 2011, August 11-14

Yeah, Duval fell hard and fast. I guess I should have said a sports figure so dominant (yeah, Duval was #1 at one point, but he was no Tiger) falling so hard so fast.
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How about Moss? I mean, I know he had some rough spots, but he went from pretty much elite the year before, to a mess last year, to retired this year.

Maybe Tyson's path is similar too?

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Yeah, Duval fell hard and fast. I guess I should have said a sports figure so dominant (yeah, Duval was #1 at one point, but he was no Tiger) falling so hard so fast.
Duval had a drinking problem. Tiger had another kind of problem. ;
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I do wish the sports media would quit treating how badly Tiger does as the lead story for every tournament. It is no longer an unusual sight and it no longer deserves to steal the thunder from the guys who, you know, actually play well (especially when it's a class act like Stricker shooting a 63.)
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I do wish the sports media would quit treating how badly Tiger does as the lead story for every tournament. It is no longer an unusual sight and it no longer deserves to steal the thunder from the guys who, you know, actually play well (especially when it's a class act like Stricker shooting a 63.)
Totally agree. I can understand ESPN obsessing over it because that is what they do, they only care about Lebron, Favre, Tiger, Kobe, Yankees and RedSox.

What pisses me off is the Golf Channel is just as bad as they obsess over Tiger in every telecast. The Golf Channel is appealing to diehards fans like us who are going to tune in if Tiger or Rory or Stricker or some no-name is in the lead.

I don't have a problem with addressing the downfall of Tiger during their 2 hour postgame telecast after each round, but for Tiger to lead the highlights and THEN showing Strickers highlights show me that they are just as guilty as ESPN.
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Originally Posted by mcnabb View Post
Totally agree. I can understand ESPN obsessing over it because that is what they do, they only care about Lebron, Favre, Tiger, Kobe, Yankees and RedSox.
Also Duke-UNC

I was thinking about Dwight Gooden as another flameout but team sports are a little different. Tyson is probably the best comparison.
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Again with the Tiger coverage complaints? When, and ONLY when, Tiger's name does not bring in ratings aka money then they won't talk about him.

Whether he's winning every third tournament like we was a few years ago or shooting 75 practically every round like he does now, he's still the player that most people want to hear about. Until that changes, you'll just have to keep dealing with it.

Tiger shooting 77 is more interesting to many people than Stricker shooting 63. I'm certainly not saying it's right, but it's simply the way it is.
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I'll admit I watched more when Tiger was at the top of his game. But now, all the coverage in the world of his downfall isn't going to be a reason for me to tune in. I never watch ESPN or the Golf Channel, so it's easy for me to avoid most of the crap about him, but when I'm watching a tourney on the weekend and they start talking about him, I just change the channel. Simple as that.
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I'll admit I watched more when Tiger was at the top of his game. But now, all the coverage in the world of his downfall isn't going to be a reason for me to tune in. I never watch ESPN or the Golf Channel, so it's easy for me to avoid most of the crap about him, but when I'm watching a tourney on the weekend and they start talking about him, I just change the channel. Simple as that.
If more people keep doing that then EVENTUALLY they'll stop talking about him. Until he starts winning again...if he ever does.
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Re: PGA Championship 2011, August 11-14

I like Adam Scott but he looks like a tool with that putter.
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I hope Adam Scott wins so I can see what Stevie says this time.
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Nice shot by Stallings. Who by the way looks like a young Phil Mickelson
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