MLB 2010-11 Offseason & Hot Stove Thread
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Yankees want Jeter to test the market if their offer isn't to his liking. 
If I'm managment I don't budge. Dude has made obscene cash during his NY career... 3/45 is more than fair for Mr. Yankee and his diminishing skills. Though I'm sure the Yankees will pony up some more before the smoke clears.
Fuck this guy.
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/m...=ESPNHeadlines

If I'm managment I don't budge. Dude has made obscene cash during his NY career... 3/45 is more than fair for Mr. Yankee and his diminishing skills. Though I'm sure the Yankees will pony up some more before the smoke clears.
Fuck this guy.
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/m...=ESPNHeadlines
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LurkerDan.... they probably wll in good faith but first and foremost... this is a business....
they are negotiating with themselves... no one and i repeat... NO ONE..will give Jeter that much dough for his stats and length of contract... They are waiting it out... he feels they need to give him more money but its not good business
they are negotiating with themselves... no one and i repeat... NO ONE..will give Jeter that much dough for his stats and length of contract... They are waiting it out... he feels they need to give him more money but its not good business
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LurkerDan.... they probably wll in good faith but first and foremost... this is a business....
they are negotiating with themselves... no one and i repeat... NO ONE..will give Jeter that much dough for his stats and length of contract... They are waiting it out... he feels they need to give him more money but its not good business
they are negotiating with themselves... no one and i repeat... NO ONE..will give Jeter that much dough for his stats and length of contract... They are waiting it out... he feels they need to give him more money but its not good business
He needs them more than they need him, sure, but they do need him. And if both parties get locked into a staring contest, it could be hard for either to back down. I just think they should figure out a way to allow him to save face, to offer him something different.
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A follow up to the NL MVP discussion...an interesting point (and I read this elsewhere) to consider when defining "valuable" - if Votto/Pujols switched places last year, isn't it safe to say the standings would have looked exactly the same. That's how similar both guys were.

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I understand they are negotiating against themselves. But you must also realize that while nobody will give him the same money, he's not worth as much to others as he is to the Yankees. They SHOULD give him more money than everyone else. If they play hardball and, say, the Red Sox offer 4 years at $13M to have him play 3B (assume Beltre leaves), and he goes there, who will look bad? Who will lose money? Even if the Yankees win another 95 games and make the playoffs, they will not be as marketable without him. And if somehow they stumble and he (and the Sox) do well, they'll look even worse.
He needs them more than they need him, sure, but they do need him. And if both parties get locked into a staring contest, it could be hard for either to back down. I just think they should figure out a way to allow him to save face, to offer him something different.
He needs them more than they need him, sure, but they do need him. And if both parties get locked into a staring contest, it could be hard for either to back down. I just think they should figure out a way to allow him to save face, to offer him something different.
he will come back and the yankees will sweeten the deal.. but the yankees are paying him more than rollin, hanley, reyes...
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Kind of surprised the Sox didn't offer arbitration to Varitek, but i guess they figured they will be able to sign him cheaper... Looks like they are going to get quite a few draft picks for Beltre and Martinez so hopefully a big deal is coming because if not, the bridge will continue.
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I know, wishful thinking from a Yankee hater.

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3 years at $15M is more than he is worth from a baseball standpoint. So, all this crap that the Yankees have to pay him for his service, his legend, etc. is just that...crap. What do you think his $189M contract was? How did he become the second highest earning player in the history of MLB? They have been paying him for all the intangibles for years.
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Dbacks traded for Zach Duke. Not a bad deal if they can get him cheap. I know he was due like $4+ million before he was waived by the Pirates.
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I just read on ESPN that the Jeter camp is actually asking for a 6 year 150 million dollar deal. If that is true then it is absolutely absurd.
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Jeter.... cut the shit.. your agent will soon make you poor as hell... i say the yankees take the offer off and bring it down... Jeter... stop already... you got 189mil for 10 years and you dont put up AROD numbers.... cut it out
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Actually, I think the Yankees are going about this all wrong. They should offer him something different, to allow them to pay him what he's worth on the field, while still respecting that he brings more to the table (in things like PR/Marketing) than someone of his stats, and allowing him to save face. They should add a personal services contract, or a small ownership stake in YES, or something along those lines. The monetary value wouldn't have to be that high for both parties to come together, I think.
I was at all 4 Yanks vs. White Sox games this past season all early as the gates were open.
That jerk didn't come by and sign by the Yankee dugout. There were kids and a cute girl at all4 games and did'nt sign. Now I don't know if this means anything but he did sign for people and kids that had passes to be on the field. They looked like friends of players and such. ANybody watch MLB channel and what Mitch Williams said about how Jeter is worth the money? Mitch says because Jeter scored 100 plus runs he does his job.
Well, Mitch unless Jeter is stealing home 100 times he's not worth the money.
When you have a multi million dollar 3,4,5 hitters if Jeter can't score over a 100 runs then the Yankees have bigger problems than signing a 35 year old shortstop coming off his worse year.
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3 years at $15M is more than he is worth from a baseball standpoint. So, all this crap that the Yankees have to pay him for his service, his legend, etc. is just that...crap. What do you think his $189M contract was? How did he become the second highest earning player in the history of MLB? They have been paying him for all the intangibles for years.
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ESPN is reporting that Jeter's reported demands were wrong. He was actually asking for only 23 million a season. LOL!
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I have to say this off season drama between the Yanks and Jeter is endlessly fascinating.
I really hope the Yankees stick to their guns and don't up their offer.
I really hope the Yankees stick to their guns and don't up their offer.
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I don't see how some of these broadcasters/analysts believe that the Yankees stance is going to cost them more in the end. It doesn't make sense. You either pay him what you (not him or his agent) feels he's worth or make him walk as the Kane starts to talk.
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The BBWAA has indicated there's 33 names appearing on the upcoming HOF ballot.
Blyleven (finally) and Alomar look like locks this year. This will be the year the writers get to put the hammer down on Rafael Palmeiro. Other big names among first-timers include Jeff Bagwell and Juan Gonzalez.
Blyleven (finally) and Alomar look like locks this year. This will be the year the writers get to put the hammer down on Rafael Palmeiro. Other big names among first-timers include Jeff Bagwell and Juan Gonzalez.