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College Hoops, NCAA Tournament Regional Semifinals/Finals, March 25-28

Regional Semifinals Schedule:

Thursday, March 25

7:07 (Salt Lake City I): Syracuse vs. Butler (Gus Johnson/Len Elmore)
7:27 (Syracuse I): Washington vs. West Virginia (Dick Enberg/Jay Bilas)
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9:37 (Salt Lake City II): Kansas State vs. Xavier (Johnson/Elmore)
9:57 (Syracuse II): Kentucky vs. Cornell (Enberg/Bilas)
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Friday, March 26

7:07 (St. Louis I): Ohio State vs. Tennessee (Verne Lundquist/Bill Raftery)
7:27 (Houston I): Baylor vs. St. Mary’s, Calif. (Jim Nantz/Clark Kellogg)
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9:37 (St. Louis II): Michigan State vs. Northern Iowa (Lundquist/Raftery)
9:57 (Houston II) Duke vs. Purdue (Nantz/Kellogg)
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Regional Finals Schedule:

Saturday, March 27

4:30: Kansas State vs. Butler (Salt Lake City)
7:05: Kentucky vs. West Virginia (Syracuse)


Sunday, March 28

2:20: Michigan State vs. Tennessee (St. Louis)
5:05: Duke vs. Baylor (Houston)


Note: YMMV with the Coverage Maps and I know that Cincinnati is getting both games in the late Thursday slot.

I know that everyone is shocked that Nantz and Kellogg are calling the Dook games again.

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Re: College Hoops, NCAA Tournament Regional Semifinals/Finals, March 25-28

From the other thread....

Originally Posted by brizz View Post
i'm amazed that nearly every pundit in America is picking UNI over MSU because of Lucas's injury. it shocks me how quickly they forget about Izzo in March - they did the same thing vs. USC last year...then Kansas...then Louisville...then UConn. the last two were going to "run them out of the gym" - and now UNI is too tough and plays good defense? Do they not watch basketball? That's kind of like, I don't know, EXACTLY the strengths of MSU!

and as we saw Sunday, it's not like Lucious is a walk-on - kid was a 4 star from Milwaukee or there abouts and his assist-turnover ratio is actually better than Kalin's. They aren't winning it all without Lucas, but good god, I think they can manage a game against Northern Freaking Iowa. I love the disrespect and how they have managed to become the underdog....it's the perfect spot for Izzo. Don't give him a shot, and they win.

MSU is favored....by 1.

As for disrespect, sounds like you are disrespecting a team that beat KU for a complete 60 minutes the other day. I do think UNI poses a stiffer matchup for MSU than Maryland did because UNI basically plays a Big Ten style. Too bad for UNI they are playing this in the EJ Dome rather than Scott Trade Center (a venue they are quite familiar with).

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Re: College Hoops, NCAA Tournament Regional Semifinals/Finals, March 25-28

Sweet 16 representation:

By seed:
"1" - Duke, Kentucky, Syracuse
"2" - Kansas State, Ohio State, West Virginia
"3" - Baylor
"4" - Purdue
"5" - Butler, Michigan State
"6" - Tennessee, Xavier
"9" - Northern Iowa
"10" - St. Mary's
"11" - Washington
"12" - Cornell

By conference (Most to least, alphabetical order):

Big Ten: 3 (2-Ohio State, 4-Purdue, 5-Michigan State)
Big East: 2 (1-Syracuse, 2-West Virginia)
Big 12: 2 (2-Kansas State, 3-Baylor)
SEC: 2 (1-Kentucky and 6-Tennessee)
A10: 1 (6-Xavier)
ACC: 1 (1-Duke)
Horizon: 1 (5-Butler)
Ivy: 1 (12-Cornell)
MVC: 1 (9-Northern Iowa)
Pac-10: 1 (11-Washington)
WCC: 1 (10-St. Mary's)

11 teams from the "Power" conferences, 5 from the "mid-major" D-1 conferences.

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Re: College Hoops, NCAA Tournament Regional Semifinals/Finals, March 25-28

Originally Posted by Red Dog View Post
From the other thread....




MSU is favored....by 1.

As for disrespect, sounds like you are disrespecting a team that beat KU for a complete 60 minutes the other day. I do think UNI poses a stiffer matchup for MSU than Maryland did because UNI basically plays a Big Ten style. Too bad for UNI they are playing this in the EJ Dome rather than Scott Trade Center (a venue they are quite familiar with).
Cowherd today: "UNI will win, and they will win comfortably"
Tony Kornheiser: "MSU is done w/o a point guard."
Tim Cowlishaw" "With or without Lucas, MSU is going to lose to UNI. UNI is a better team and they will show that."
Woody: "There is no chance MSU can beat UNI w/o Lucas."


It's all over the place....and yes, UNI beat Kansas for 60 minutes, because Kansas forgot they actually have to play the games to advance. And the fact that UNI plays a big ten style is all the better for MSU. It's one thing to say it will be a close game, but to say an Izzo team has NO chance because one guy is gone?!??!?!
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Re: College Hoops, NCAA Tournament Regional Semifinals/Finals, March 25-28

I didn't say people weren't saying it. I'm simply saying MSU is the betting favorite. That's a fact.

And I love Tony K., but he ain't exactly an expert. Neither are any of those fools you mention.
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Re: College Hoops, NCAA Tournament Regional Semifinals/Finals, March 25-28

Originally Posted by brizz View Post
Cowherd today: "UNI will win, and they will win comfortably"
Tony Kornheiser: "MSU is done w/o a point guard."
Tim Cowlishaw" "With or without Lucas, MSU is going to lose to UNI. UNI is a better team and they will show that."
Woody: "There is no chance MSU can beat UNI w/o Lucas."


It's all over the place....and yes, UNI beat Kansas for 60 minutes, because Kansas forgot they actually have to play the games to advance. And the fact that UNI plays a big ten style is all the better for MSU. It's one thing to say it will be a close game, but to say an Izzo team has NO chance because one guy is gone?!??!?!
Really? Because Cowherd, the two biggest idiots on the worst show on ESPN, and Kornheiser said it, that's widespread disrespect?
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Really? Because Cowherd, the two biggest idiots on the worst show on ESPN, and Kornheiser said it, that's widespread disrespect?
Gottleib (his "Lock"), Digger, Jason King of Yahoo, Jeff Goodman (fox sports), Andy Katz, Glockner at SI, The entire Pomeroy Gang, etc etc etc....Just about every single media outlet in America is picking UNI. One said that if Izzo can beat UNI he is a "Miracle worker." Hell, Dickie V is the only one that's picked us at the main networks So yes, it's widespread.

I just think it's rather amazing. UNI is a fine team, and they played the game of their life on Saturday to beat Kansas, but how that all of a sudden makes them the prohibitive favorite against MSU because Kalin Lucas is hurt is laughable. And as I said, I LOVE the fact that they can come in to this like they did last year, as the underdog who no one expects to win...it's all gravy, and it's when Izzo thrives. I just don't understand it, given his history in the roll.

and again, it's NORTHERN IOWA. America is going to be sorely disappointed come Friday night, when the Sweet 16 ends with a whimper and MSU wins by 12
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Re: College Hoops, NCAA Tournament Regional Semifinals/Finals, March 25-28

The entire Pomeroy gang?

From Pomeroy:

(9) Northern Iowa vs. (5) Michigan State (Friday, 9:37)
At the other extreme of bench-usage philosophy is Tom Izzo, who has no problem calling on seldom-used players in elimination games. As an example, we have former walk-on and defensive specialist Mike Kebler, who has seen ten minutes of tournament action with nary a box score stat of any kind recorded. With Kalin Lucas down and Chris Allen hobbled, Kebler will continue to get a few meaningful minutes. However, most eyes will be on Korie Lucious, who returns to a role as the primary point guard after a cameo in late February.

While most of the nation was able to see the tail end of a frantic Maryland comeback, one shouldn’t get the impression that the Spartans collapsed under Lucious’ leadership before his final game-saving three-pointer. The Spartans were only outscored by two with Lucious at the helm, and his line on the night was fine: 13 points on eight shots hindered by just two turnovers in 26:18.

It’s safe to say that replacing Lucas with Lucious doesn’t trigger the same nervousness in East Lansing that say, replacing Turner with P.J. Hill would in Columbus. But one important difference against Northern Iowa will be that nearly every Spartan possession will be against a set defense. The Panthers have yet to play a game faster than the D-I average of 67 possessions this season.

UNI head coach Ben Jacobson doesn’t have the phobia of offensive rebounds that his predecessor did, so the Spartans may get a fast break opportunity or two off a Panther miss. On five occasions Kansas was able to turn a defensive rebound into a shot in ten seconds or less. But for the most part this will be a slow-paced slug fest, with the emphasis on slug.

Northern Iowa’s first two tournament opponents have been able to grab at least 40 percent of their misses. The Panthers’ graded out well in keeping fellow MVC foes off the boards, but Valley offenses believe in getting it right the first time, so much so that no team in the conference ranks in the top 100 nationally in offensive rebounding percentage. Thus, Michigan State should be able to get its usual dose of put-back attempts.

The gang from Cedar Falls is otherwise solid but not spectacular in nearly every other component. As a slow-paced defense-first team (and a defense that is based on positioning rather than jumping passing lanes), the Panthers’ are not going to wow you with counting stats. What they will do is take a fair amount of jump shots and spread those attempts around very well. Given that the Spartans are in the habit of defending the paint first, the Panthers should get their fair share of good looks.
That doesn't sound like someone who necessarily favors UNI, let alone make them a lock.

Plus he has MSU at a 51% chance of winning using his computer formula.


Also, every book I see has MSU favored by 1 or 1.5.
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Re: College Hoops, NCAA Tournament Regional Semifinals/Finals, March 25-28

Again, i'm not talking about Vegas...Vegas isn't on the radio and tv blabbing out its ass. as for Pomeroy, This is what I was referring to:

Likeliest low seed to continue its run
Pomeroy: Speaking of doom, let's talk about which low seed might be able to stave that off for a bit longer. I say the combination of talent level and bracket points to Northern Iowa. Once you’ve beaten Kansas, Michigan State in its current situation doesn’t figure to scare you too much.

Perrotto: Precisely. The Panthers showed they can play with anyone by beating KU, a win that wasn't a fluke. They're capable of beating Michigan State and the Ohio State/Tennessee winner to make a George Masonian run to the Final Four.

Doolittle: At the risk of being repetitive, I too will go with my new second-favorite team. The Panthers have won their last six games in St. Louis, where they host the Missouri Valley Tournament. Ken's numbers have the matchups with Michigan State as basically a toss-up, and I love UNI's chances to defend the Sparties and keep them off the offensive glass.

Pelton: Well, heck, I'll go against the grain here and say...Northern Iowa. Not only are the Panthers the best of this low-seed group, but by already knocking off the one-seed they guaranteed themselves a relatively easy match-up against a Michigan State team that will surely be without Kalin Lucas. That didn't slow the Spartans down against Maryland, but UNI should be able to slow MSU on the offensive glass.

Gasaway: A pox on your unanimity! Fie and woe! Washington, if for no other reason than to make Kevin feel guilty for not choosing his alma mater here. Also note that I have no idea what "fie" is, really. If something bad happens to any of you, my bad.

Anyway...i'm done with it all, I just think it's fascinating how obsessed they get with the "cinderellas" and go completely overboard with it all, while the far better team in that category - Cornell - is relatively ignored and not given a shot against the Sleaze-train. Frankly, I think that is going to be the best game of the bunch, and I think Cornell has a great shot to win it. I think the most boring game will be Syracuse/Butler, as i'll be amazed if Butler can keep that within 20.
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Re: College Hoops, NCAA Tournament Regional Semifinals/Finals, March 25-28

I can't wait to watch the NCAA tournament again tomorrow--this time in HD on my new Sony 40" LCD panel.
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Re: College Hoops, NCAA Tournament Regional Semifinals/Finals, March 25-28

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Anyway...i'm done with it all
And we're all thankful for that. And keep in mind that 'likeliest to win among lower seeds' does not equal 'win' or 'lock.' The betting lines are a perfect reflection of what the public thinks - and they mirror that.

As for Cornell, I think they were all concerned with Cornell's lack of defense the first 2 games. They didn't need it, given the way their offense played. However, that's not likely to continue. They'll need to play good defense to beat UK.

As for Butler, remember that Butler was the only team that gave Florida a game in Florida's '07 repeat run. None of the major conference opponents came close.

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Re: College Hoops, NCAA Tournament Regional Semifinals/Finals, March 25-28

Man, Red Dog has been in some real tiffs with our Sconnie board members lately.
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Re: College Hoops, NCAA Tournament Regional Semifinals/Finals, March 25-28

Butler scares me. i have a feeling that we're going to win tonight, but it's going to be a squeaker (kind of like the 1 point win in the S16 game over Auburn in the run to Syracuse winning the 2003 National Championship and Big 12 Championship)
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Re: College Hoops, NCAA Tournament Regional Semifinals/Finals, March 25-28

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Butler scares me. i have a feeling that we're going to win tonight, but it's going to be a squeaker (kind of like the 1 point win in the S16 game over Auburn in the run to Syracuse winning the 2003 National Championship and Big 12 Championship)
The thing I'm always curious to see about these teams, at least in the case of the games in Houston, STL, and Cuse, is how they adjust to large venues. This goes double for teams heavily reliant on 3s.

Fortunately, for Butler, their game vs. Cuse (obviously used to a spacious setting) is in a standard arena.
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I'll be rooting for all of the lower seeded teams the next two days with the exception of Tennessee. I'm prepared to be very disappointed come Saturday morning.
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While you're waiting for tip-off, please enjoy the Gus Johnson Soundboard

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Re: College Hoops, NCAA Tournament Regional Semifinals/Finals, March 25-28

PS - Screw my brackets.

Go Butler, (who cares), Xavier, Kentucky, Ohio State, St Mary's, Northern and Purdue!
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Re: College Hoops, NCAA Tournament Regional Semifinals/Finals, March 25-28

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The thing I'm always curious to see about these teams, at least in the case of the games in Houston, STL, and Cuse, is how they adjust to large venues. This goes double for teams heavily reliant on 3s.

Fortunately, for Butler, their game vs. Cuse (obviously used to a spacious setting) is in a standard arena.
Pretty cool segment on SC about this factor re: sound (louder in true dome tops vs. flat-top domes), depth perception (tougher to shoot), and lighting (darker (STL is darker than SYR) is actually better for foul shooting by pct).

The SC braintrust seems to scoff at these things. But I agree with Digger - I don't think sound is much of a factor since there's usually no real home crowd.

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ESPN 'Braintrust' picks:

All pick Cuse.
All pick KSU.
Dick: WVU. Digger, Hubert: Wash.
All pick UK.

Hmmmm.
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Great start if you have the Under.
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Well this is certainly an interesting opening 7 minutes.
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Good strategy by Washington. Looks they're going to employ the press the whole game.
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Great start if you have the Under.
....in the other game too.
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This looks like the same Syracuse squad that played against Louisville.
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Three from downtown.

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