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Old 09-04-09, 11:46 AM
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Directv-Versus?

Any word on an agreement? The NHL has to love this. How many viewers can they expect to lose should there be no agreement? I get NHL Center- Ice so I wouldn't be missing very many broadcasts. Can the NHL get out of their contract should there be a great loss of potential viewership?
Old 09-04-09, 12:35 PM
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Re: Directv-Versus?

Apparently it hinges on the tier that DirecTV wants to carry the channel in. They want to bump it to a sports tier and Comcast doesn't want that. I would think that as NHL season approaches, they will start to exert what little pressure they have to get it resolved. I guess there are a few NCAAF games, including Texas v. Wyoming that are exclusive to Versus that may get caught up in all of this. DirecTV has said it is not about money though, it is about placement in the lineup.
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Well if they want to bump it to a sports tier (the $10/month one or whatever it costs now), Center Ice subscriptions are probably going to skyrocket...I'm on the fence as to whether get CI now, my decision would be much easier if VS is going to cost me more.
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Re: Directv-Versus?

Linky: http://www.directv.com/versus
Versus on DIRECTV

Dear DIRECTV Customer:

We want you to know we're doing everything we can to keep your favorite sports programming on DIRECTV but we've simply reached an impasse with Comcast over its Versus channel.

In sports, we all expect fair play and a level playing field - a competitor that plays by the rules. Evidently that's not the rule book Comcast plays by. Its unreasonable demands are the economic equivalent of juicing to gain an advantage over its competitors. And our fear is that their egregiously greedy behavior may ultimately kill coverage of your favorite sports on television.

The deal that just expired was well above market value and beyond what other significant distributors were paying. To add insult to injury Comcast demanded we carry Versus at a 20 percent premium in a new deal, thereby forcing us to take down the channel. We're not happy about this, but we hope you understand that we must hold the line on programming costs in order to protect our customers from unwarranted price increases in this difficult economic climate.

We have successfully negotiated hundreds of carriage deals, but sometimes you need to stand up to a bully and there is a strong possibility that if Comcast makes these same demands to other distributors, they will also be forced to drop Versus resulting in significantly reduced exposure and availability of the sports you like to watch on Versus. Maybe that's what Comcast wants; other than greed it's the only other explanation.

You have our commitment that we will continue to negotiate in good faith with Versus to try and reach a fair settlement. We truly appreciate your patience and understanding during this time.

Thank you.

Sincerely,
Derek Chang
Executive Vice President, Content Strategy and Development
DIRECTV, Inc.

On-air message says Versus is not available. Why?
Our contract with Comcast expired August 31 and we were unable to reach agreement on a renewal. Comcast was not only demanding renewal terms that did not reflect market value for the channel but also demanding carriage terms that were discriminatory. Comcast forced us to drop Versus unless we agreed to their unreasonable terms.

With Versus no longer available, how will DIRECTV make up for the loss?
We will communicate with you and do what we can to ensure your continued satisfaction and loyalty until the matter is resolved. We will continue to negotiate with Comcast to resolve this matter. In the meantime, you'll still be able to watch plenty of similar sports programming on other channels we carry.
College football available on Big Ten Network, CBS College Sports, ESPN, ESPNU, ESPN GamePlan, The Mtn., local channels and your RSN.
NHL available on NHL Network, NHL Center Ice, and your RSN.
Mixed Martial Arts available on HDNet, Spike TV, and UFC on DIRECTV Pay-Per-View.
Auto Racing IRL on ABC, Formula 1 on Fox and Speed
Bull riding available on ESPN2 and the Houston Rodeo on DIRECTV Pay-Per-View.
Hunting and fishing available on ESPN2, The Sportsman Channel, The Outdoor Channel, and Pursuit TV.

What's keeping you from reaching an agreement?
Comcast is asking for terms which do not reflect the market and which they are not asking of all other distributors. They claim their offer is status quo when in reality, they are asking for almost a 20% increase in fees. DIRECTV wants to keep your monthly fees low, so it's doing everything it can to avoid paying exorbitant programming fees.

Should I switch to DISH or cable?
No. There's no need to consider switching providers. DIRECTV has the best variety of exclusive and premium content available anywhere and we have similar programming on other channels (see above). If you are concerned about NHL, we still have time to negotiate with Comcast before the start of the NHL season. For PBR fans, we offered to carry PBR programming, but PBR events are exclusive to Versus and cannot be made available to DIRECTV.

Is this all just so DIRECTV can save money?
Not at all, this is about DIRECTV getting treated fairly and not wanting to pass on high programming fees to our customers.
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Re: Directv-Versus?

Although CI subscriptions won't help you once you get to the conference finals (and some semifinal games) when VS has exclusive rights (except for games NBC airs). I really wouldn't have a problem if they threw it in the sportspack. I already subscribe to the SP during college hoops season so I'll just extend that a few more months to cover the hockey playoffs.
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Originally Posted by Dr_Evil View Post
I guess there are a few NCAAF games, including Texas v. Wyoming that are exclusive to Versus that may get caught up in all of this.
Old 09-04-09, 02:15 PM
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Although CI subscriptions won't help you once you get to the conference finals (and some semifinal games) when VS has exclusive rights (except for games NBC airs). I really wouldn't have a problem if they threw it in the sportspack. I already subscribe to the SP during college hoops season so I'll just extend that a few more months to cover the hockey playoffs.
I could always go back and get basic cable so I could get HNIC but Charter sucks.
Old 09-04-09, 02:17 PM
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Don't forget-Versus was also going to carry the UFL (if the league doesn't fold).
Old 09-04-09, 02:22 PM
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Don't know what I'll do without my UFL fix.
Old 09-04-09, 02:32 PM
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Don't know what I'll do without my UFL fix.
Maybe one day ESPN Classic will actually show classic games(instead of the unearthly crap they show now) and will broadcast old USFL and WFL games .

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Old 09-04-09, 02:54 PM
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I doubt there is any known WFL archives. Certainly not broadcast archives. Hell, there are few archived NFL broadcasts prior to the mid-70s. They simply didn't keep the tapes back then. Tapes were expensive and thus re-used.

I have seen USFL games on Classic before but that was over 5 years ago.
Old 09-04-09, 03:58 PM
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The only thing I compare this battle to is the NFL vs Comcast earlier in the year. Comcast was going to lose the NFL Channel because they wouldn't put it on their digital tier that all subscribers can see, rather it was on the Sports tier that you had to pay for. They battled for months, and eventually came to a resolution, and now it is on my digital tier. As for the details, I am not sure who got what in the end.
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I watch NHL whenever I can, but it always seemed like I could never catch the games on VS. If it doesn't come back, I'll miss the Tour de France if it's back on VS next year.

I wish I could get Comcast Philly on DirecTV so I could see the Phils win, and the Flyers lose.
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It'll come back. Comcast will realize they are losing quite a bit of money not having VS on DirecTV. It's probably their largest subscriber base outside of Dish.
Old 03-15-10, 05:01 PM
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it's back
same package as before
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Re: Directv-Versus?

Finally..
Old 03-15-10, 06:00 PM
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Re: Directv-Versus?

Nice to have another channel. I switched over to DirecTV in november and noticed that versus was out and glad that it's back now.
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Oh thank God. I was going to be awful pissed if I missed the NHL playoffs because of that nonsense.
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That's good. Was worried about missing the NHL playoffs and I was worried they'd throw it in the sportspack if they brought it back. Now that college hoops season is over (except for the tourney), I can cancel the sportspack.
Old 03-16-10, 10:21 AM
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Why would you subscribe to Direct TV in the first place?
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Originally Posted by classicman2 View Post
Why would you subscribe to Direct TV in the first place?
Ask me why on Thursday and Friday.
Old 03-16-10, 10:35 AM
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Why would you subscribe to Direct TV in the first place?
For some of us, three channels isn't enough.
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I believe Dish Network has a few more than 3 channels - probably as many or more than Direct TV.

They're certainly cheaper.

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