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Old 05-17-19, 07:48 PM
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Are there regional blackouts on their League Pass?
According to their website you can't watch them live but they are up shortly after the game airs for on demand. I never watch any WNBA games (or NBA for that matter) live so I never noticed. I always watch them a few hours later so I can skip all the commercials, pre-game, halftime stuff.
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Tempted to get that pass. Doesn’t look like their app is on game consoles, though, which is how I watch on TV.

The Athletic has added beat reporters for all WNBA teams, which is cool.
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I will have to go see them at the Mandalay Bay next month, I think.
Got nice seats on the side of the baseline, row G for $42 each for 6/22 against Dallas. Not bad.
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I was planning on buying really good seats to the Aces/Mercury game but my wife had family in town. I missed a hell of a game.
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When will we see the creation of the WNFL?
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Well if putting a quality team together won't bring in the fans, there's always this option :

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Rookie Arike Ogunbowale sets a record by going 2-23 in Dallas’ 69-68 loss.
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Vegas advances in the Playoffs on one of the worst shots ever attempted. Literally zero clock awareness.

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I was offered tickets to see the Storm’s Wednesday playoff game, but I had conflicts. They actually won that game to advance before losing in LA today, but just making the playoffs was a big accomplishment considering Breanna Stewart and Sue Bird were hurt all year.
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It's incredible to see that Derek Fisher still the biggest trash out there. I don't know why he still a coach at any level cause he sucks. Example: Last night, in the Sparks elimination game he benched his best 3 players when they were down by 14. The game was a rout by the mid fourth quarter. Candace Parker is extremely pissed at this moron.

https://deadspin.com/candace-parker-...-he-1838372172
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It's incredible to see that Derek Fisher still the biggest trash out there. I don't know why he still a coach at any level cause he sucks. Example: Last night, in the Sparks elimination game he benched his best 3 players when they were down by 14. The game was a rout by the mid fourth quarter. Candace Parker is extremely pissed at this moron.

https://deadspin.com/candace-parker-...-he-1838372172
What in the world?

And from the comments in that thread, he's even more trash than I thought:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...o-player-loans

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https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id...r-amid-turmoil

LA Sparks fired their GM Penny Toler. She apparently used the N word during a post game speech.

She was with the team for 20 years.

and for those who don't remember, when she was a player, she scored the WNBA's first 2 points back in their 1st season.
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The WNBA and Players Association signed a major new CBA on Tuesday

https://www.wnba.com/news/wnba-and-wnbpa-reach-tentative-agreement-on-groundbreaking-eight-year-collective-bargaining-agreement/

NEW YORK, Jan. 14, 2020 — The Women’s National Basketball Association (WNBA) and the Women’s National Basketball Players Association (WNBPA) announced today that they have reached an agreement on a new Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA), pending ratification by the players and the league’s Board of Governors.

The new eight-year CBA, which commences with the 2020 season and runs through 2027, provides the foundation to chart a new course for women’s professional basketball. The 2020 CBA features significant investments by the league and its teams aimed directly at increasing player salary and compensation, improvements to the overall player experience, resources specifically designed with the professional female athlete in mind, as well as a commitment to implement an integrated marketing plan league-wide.

Foremost among the deal terms is a 53 percent increase in total cash compensation, consisting of base salary, additional performance bonuses, prize pools for newly created in-season competitions, and league and team marketing deals. Under the new CBA, the league’s top players will be able to earn cash compensation in excess of $500,000, representing a more than tripling of the maximum compensation under the prior deal. Other top players will have an opportunity to earn between $200,000 and $300,000. And for the first time in WNBA history, the average cash compensation for players will exceed six figures, averaging nearly $130,000, resulting in an increase for all players from rookies to veterans.

Additional highlights include enhanced player experience with respect to travel and child care benefits, and expanded offseason career development opportunities. The landmark agreement also features a more liberal free agency system, and a more robust and equitable revenue-sharing model based on league revenue growth.

“We approached these negotiations with a player-first agenda, and I am pleased that this agreement guarantees substantial increases in compensation and progressive benefits for the women of the WNBA,” said WNBA Commissioner Cathy Engelbert. “I want to thank the players, led by WNBPA President Nneka Ogwumike and the WNBPA Executive Committee, as well as WNBPA Executive Director Terri Jackson, for their hard work, innovative thinking and professionalism throughout the process. I also want to thank the league’s Labor Relations Committee and Board of Governors for their investment, commitment and leadership as we look forward to working together to make the WNBA a sustainable and thriving business for generations of women’s basketball players to come.”

“Cathy Engelbert, the first WNBA Commissioner, brought her perspective as a former women’s basketball student-athlete, her experience as a business professional and her passion for the game to these negotiations,” said WNBPA President Nneka Ogwumike. “We found common ground in areas that confirmed the league’s and the players’ intentions to not only make meaningful improvements in working conditions and overall professional experience, but also to improve the business with strategic planning and intentional marketing that will keep the WNBA front and center year-round.”

“With cautious optimism and trusting the league’s renewed commitment and investment, the players demonstrated a willingness to ‘lean in’ themselves and show an even greater commitment and investment in the W,” described WNBPA Executive Director Terri Jackson. “There are significant gains all across the board in this new agreement, and everything is in place for our players and the league to thrive.”

The following are the key elements in the new 2020 WNBA-WNBPA Collective Bargaining Agreement:

Additional cash compensation elements:

– Minimum of $1.6 million in off-season league and team marketing agreements, that both recognize top performance and highlight the diversity of the league, and would create up to $300,000 in additional annual cash compensation for select players.
– Minimum of $750,000 in prize money for special competitions beginning with the 2021 season.
– New 50-50 revenue sharing beginning with the 2021 season, based on the league achieving revenue growth targets from broadcast agreements, marketing partnerships and licensing deals.
– Increases in cash bonuses for performance awards (such as for WNBA MVP and Rookie of the Year), and newly created cash bonuses (such as for each player named to the WNBA All-Defensive First Team).

Quality of travel elements:

– Premium Economy class status (such as Comfort/Economy Plus) for all players for regular-season air travel.
– Individual hotel room accommodations for every player.
– A collaborative effort to address travel concerns through the Player Advisory Panel.

Motherhood and family planning elements:

– Players to receive full salary while on maternity leave.
– A new annual childcare stipend of $5,000.
– Two-bedroom apartments for players with children.
– Workplace accommodations that provide a comfortable, safe and private place for nursing mothers.
– New, progressive family planning benefits of up to a $60,000 reimbursement for veteran players for costs directly related to adoption, surrogacy, oocyte cryopreservation or fertility/infertility treatment.

Free agency elements

– Unrestricted free agency available to players one year earlier than under the prior agreement beginning with the free agency period leading up to the 2021 season. Specifically, players who complete the playing services called for in their contract and have five or more years of service will become unrestricted free agents (if they are not designated as a “Core” player).
– Reduction in the number of times a player can receive the “Core” designation – from four to three beginning with the 2020 season, dropping to two beginning with the 2022 season.

Career development and other quality of life elements:

– The WNBA will work with its affiliated leagues, teams and sponsors to provide off-season job opportunities designed to prepare players for their post-playing careers and will advance diversity in coaching initiatives for veteran players interested in coaching careers.
– Enhanced mental health benefits and resources.
– An augmented and holistic domestic/intimate partner violence program that includes education and counseling.
– A joint Nutrition Council committed to identifying resources and address proper nutrition to optimize athletic performance.
– Access to experts in women’s health and representation on league policy committees.

The WNBA also announced today the formation of a first-of-its-kind collective – WNBA Changemakers – which brings together values-driven businesses who lead the way in the advancement of women through sports. This new platform is designed to directly support the WNBA in its transformation across marketing, branding, and player and fan experience. With a fresh approach to sports sponsorship, Changemakers are deeply invested in driving positive change for the WNBA, women’s sports, and women in society. Inaugural Changemakers include AT&T, Deloitte and Nike.

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It's great to see the women are finally getting their just due.
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Awesome. Good for them. Glad they will be back next year and will treat their players a little better.
We went to an Aces game last year and they put on a great family friendly product. Had a really fun time.
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Individual hotel room accommodations for every player.
Did the players actually have to pay for/book their own hotel rooms?? WTF
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Maybe now with the improved salaries, more WNBA players can actually survive on that income and won't have to play overseas during the offseason.
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Awesome. Good for them. Glad they will be back next year and will treat their players a little better.
We went to an Aces game last year and they put on a great family friendly product. Had a really fun time.
When my daughter is a little older, I look forward to taking her to the occasional Mystics game. I want her to see professional women's athletes. Plus, if the height prediction formulas are right (probably not), she is going to be 5'10"+ as an adult so she may end up playing basketball anyway.
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Did the players actually have to pay for/book their own hotel rooms?? WTF
No but I think they had to share their room with a teammate which is bad enough for a major sports league
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Maybe now with the improved salaries, more WNBA players can actually survive on that income and won't have to play overseas during the offseason.
I just listened to an ESPN 30 for 30 podcast about how Sue Bird and Diana Taurasi played in Russia and got showered with money and gifts until their benefactor was murdered in a likely mob hit. It’s a sketchy scene internationally, but players need it to supplement their WNBA income. Hope this helps.
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https://www.wnba.com/news/liberty-se...20-wnba-draft/

Sabrina Ionescu, the national player of the year from Oregon, was selected 1st overall in the WNBA Draft by New York.

I know most here don't follow Women's college basketball, but she's a hell of a player. You may recall she attended Kobe's memorial.


New York Selects Sabrina Ionescu With First Overall Pick In WNBA Draft 2020 Presented By State Farm

New York Liberty Official ReleaseApril 17, 2020
NEW YORK, April 17, 2020 – Unanimous National Player of the Year Sabrina Ionescu of Oregon tonight was selected by the New York Liberty with the first overall pick of WNBA Draft 2020 presented by State Farm®, which was held virtually in light of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Ionescu, a three-time Nancy Lieberman Award winner as the nation’s top point guard, averaged 17.5 points, 8.6 rebounds and an NCAA-leading 9.1 assists as a senior. She holds the NCAA record for career triple-doubles and is the only NCAA woman or man to reach 2,000 points, 1,000 rebounds and 1,000 assists. A friend and mentee of the late Kobe Bryant, Ionescu spoke eloquently at the memorial service for the NBA legend and his daughter Gianna in February.

With the No. 2 overall pick, the Dallas Wings selected Oregon forward Satou Sabally. A two-time All-American, Sabally won the Cheryl Miller Award this past season as the No. 1 small forward in the country. She is a member of the German national team.

With the third pick, the Indiana Fever selected Lauren Cox of Baylor. The 2019-20 Big 12 Player of the Year was a finalist for the Naismith and John R. Wooden Awards as the National Player of the Year. As a junior in 2018-19, the 6-4 forward helped lead the Bears to the national championship.
The Atlanta Dream used the fourth pick to select guard Chennedy Carter of Texas A&M. Carter, one of three Associated Press All-Americans who entered the WNBA Draft as a junior, averaged more than 20 points in all three college seasons. The unanimous 2017-18 National Freshman of the Year owns the top two single-season scoring averages in school history as well as the single-game record of 46 points.

With the fifth pick, the Wings selected Princeton forward Bella Alarie, who became only the third Ivy League player to be drafted into the WNBA. Alarie, the daughter of former NBA Draft first-round pick Mark Alarie, was named Ivy League Player of the Year in three consecutive seasons.

The next two players both played at South Carolina. At No. 6, the Minnesota Lynx selected forward Mikiah Herbert Harrigan, the 2020 SEC Tournament MVP. At No. 7, the Wings used their third pick of the first round to select Gamecocks all-time assists leader Tyasha Harris, the 2019-20 Dawn Staley Award winner as the nation’s top guard.

Ruthy Hebard became the third Oregon player to be selected in the first round when the Chicago Sky drafted her with the eighth pick. In her senior season, Hebard won her second Katrina McClain Award as the best power forward in the nation and led the NCAA in field goal percentage.

The Liberty used the ninth and 12th picks – its second and third selections of the first round – on Connecticut forward Megan Walker and Louisville guard Jazmine Jones. Walker, a junior, was named a First Team All-American and the AAC Player of the Year this past season. Jones capped her college career with All-ACC First Team and ACC All-Defensive Team honors.

At No. 10, the Phoenix Mercury chose guard Jocelyn Willoughby of Virginia and traded her draft rights to the Liberty. The Newark, N.J., native averaged an ACC-high 19.2 points in 2019-20 and was recognized with the Kay Yow Award as the ACC Women’s Basketball Scholar-Athlete of the Year.

At No. 11, the Seattle Storm used its lone first-round pick to select guard Kitija Laksa of Latvia. After playing four seasons at South Florida, the two-time All-American signed with top pro team TTT Riga in Latvia. In her final full season with the Bulls, Laksa was a finalist for the 2017-18 Ann Meyers Drysdale Award recognizing the nation’s top shooting guard.

In the third round, the Liberty selected two-time Conference USA Player of the Year Erica Ogwumike of Rice before trading her rights to the Lynx for forward Stephanie Talbot. Ogwumike is the younger sister of former No. 1 overall picks and current Los Angeles Sparks teammates Nneka and Chiney Ogwumike. No family has ever had three sisters play in the WNBA.

Before the start of the draft, WNBA Commissioner Cathy Engelbert named Alyssa Altobelli, Gianna Bryant and Payton Chester as honorary draft picks. The Mamba Sports Academy teammates, who played on a youth basketball team coached by Kobe Bryant, tragically passed away in a helicopter accident in January.

Also tonight, the WNBA introduced the Kobe & Gigi Bryant WNBA Advocacy Award, a new annual honor that will recognize an individual or group who has made significant contributions to the visibility, perception and advancement of women’s and girls’ basketball at all levels.

For complete coverage of WNBA Draft 2020 presented by State Farm®, visit WNBA.com and the WNBA App as well as @WNBA on Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat and Facebook.

Complete results for WNBA Draft 2020 presented by State Farm® can be found here.

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You know nothing is happening in sports when the WNBA draft is on ESPN1.

Nice to see, though. The Storm have a solid roster, so their pick doesn’t have to contribute right away if she wants to stay overseas or is still recovering from a college injury.
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Oregon goes 1-2 in the draft. I know it has happened in the WNBA before, but has it ever happened in the NBA draft? Or NFL? MLB?
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Gerrit Cole and Trevor Bauer went 1-3 out of UCLA, and I feel some Kentucky or Duke guys might’ve gone 1-3, but I can’t recall any 1-2. Maybe some Alabama draftees.

PS: Not sure when the thread title changed, but I like that the sarcasm was removed.

Edited to add: Anthony Davis and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist went 1-2 in 2012; Zion and RJ Barrett went 1-3 last year.

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Aces 2017 first overall pick Kelsey Plum will miss the season after an Achilles tear. Assuming there is any season, of course.

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