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Old 05-15-08, 06:12 AM
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MLB Thursday May 15, 2008

2008 American League - Standings
EASTWLPCTGBHOMEROADRSRASTRKL10
Tampa Bay2317.575-15-88-9181159Lost 17-3
Boston2419.558.514-510-14216193Lost 44-6
Baltimore2119.525212-69-13164171Won 25-5
NY Yankees2021.4883.59-911-12171174Won 15-5
Toronto2022.476410-910-13159161Won 35-5
CENTRALWLPCTGBHOMEROADRSRASTRKL10
Cleveland2119.525-13-128-7170141Won 27-3
Minnesota2019.513.514-96-10173177Lost 25-5
Chicago Sox1920.4871.59-710-13178158Won 15-5
Kansas City1821.4622.59-129-9138165Won 35-5
Detroit1624.40058-128-12182214Lost 32-8
WESTWLPCTGBHOMEROADRSRASTRKL10
LA Angels2418.571-12-912-9191191Lost 15-5
Oakland2318.561.512-911-9187151Lost 25-5
Texas2022.476410-1010-12200229Lost 17-3
Seattle1626.38189-127-14171197Won 13-7
2008 National League - Standings
EASTWLPCTGBHOMEROADRSRASTRKL10
Florida2317.575-12-911-8197187Lost 37-3
Philadelphia2219.5371.511-911-10196187Lost 15-5
NY Mets2018.526212-88-10186177Lost 15-5
Atlanta2019.5132.514-46-15193149Won 16-4
Washington1724.4156.510-117-13166206Won 14-6
CENTRALWLPCTGBHOMEROADRSRASTRKL10
Chicago Cubs2416.600-16-78-9234170Won 16-4
St. Louis2418.571115-89-10189171Won 14-6
Houston2318.5611.511-612-12200176Won 18-2
Milwaukee2020.500411-89-12175191Lost 14-6
Pittsburgh1921.475512-87-13194213Lost 17-3
Cincinnati1823.4396.511-97-14182207Won 36-4
WESTWLPCTGBHOMEROADRSRASTRKL10
Arizona2515.625-16-79-8220171Won 24-6
LA Dodgers2019.5134.511-99-10193176Won 14-6
San Francisco1724.4158.511-116-13143192Lost 13-7
Colorado1525.375107-108-15171210Lost 44-6
San Diego1526.36610.58-107-16140196Lost 13-7
Old 05-15-08, 06:14 AM
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Wednesday, May 14, 2008
RESULTWINLOSSSAVEATT.
Seattle 4, at Texas 3Putz (1-1) German (1-2) Washburn (1) 22,934
at Baltimore 6, Boston 3Cabrera (4-1) Hansen (0-2) Sherrill (15) 28,939
at Cleveland 2, Oakland 0Sabathia (3-5) Blanton (2-6) 18,188
Atlanta 8, at Philadelphia 6Glavine (1-1) Myers (2-4) Boyer (1) 36,001
at Cincinnati 7, Florida 6Burton (2-1) Pinto (1-2) 12,756
Washington 5, at NY Mets 3Redding (5-3) Vargas (0-1) Rauch (8) 48,529
NY Yankees 2, at Tampa Bay 1Mussina (6-3) Shields (4-3) Rivera (11) 20,936
LA Dodgers 6, at Milwaukee 4Broxton (2-1) Mota (1-2) Saito (6) 27,562
at Chicago Cubs 8, San Diego 5Lilly (4-4) Peavy (4-3) 39,650
at Kansas City 2, Detroit 0Hochevar (3-2) Verlander (1-7) Soria (10) 14,053
Toronto 6, at Minnesota 5Halladay (4-5) Bonser (2-5) Downs (5) 21,026
at St. Louis 5, Pittsburgh 1Wellemeyer (4-1) Maholm (2-4) 38,720
at Arizona 4, Colorado 3Owings (5-1) De La Rosa (1-2) Lyon (11) 23,127
Chicago Sox 6, at LA Angels 1Contreras (4-3) Shields (2-1) 37,059
Houston 6, at San Francisco 3Villarreal (1-3) Taschner (2-1) Valverde (10) 33,070

Thursday, May 15, 2008
TEAMSTIME (ET)NAT TVXM RADIORESOURCESPITCHERS
Oakland at Cleveland12:05 PM XM 178Tickets | TravelSmith vs Laffey
LA Dodgers at Milwaukee1:05 PM XM 188Tickets | TravelBillingsley vs Sheets
Toronto at Minnesota1:10 PM XM 181Tickets | TravelMcGowan vs Perkins
Washington at NY Mets1:10 PM XM 185Tickets | TravelBergmann vs Pelfrey
Pittsburgh at St. Louis1:15 PM XM 187Tickets | TravelSnell vs Pineiro
Detroit at Kansas City2:10 PM XM 179Tickets | TravelRogers vs Meche
San Diego at Chicago Cubs2:20 PM XM 183Tickets | TravelMaddux vs Dempster
Houston at San Francisco3:45 PM XM 189Tickets | TravelSampson vs Lincecum
NY Yankees at Tampa Bay4:10 PM XM 176Tickets | TravelKennedy vs Kazmir
Atlanta at Philadelphia7:05 PM XM 184Tickets | TravelJames vs Hamels
Florida at Cincinnati7:10 PM XM 186Tickets | TravelMiller vs Belisle
Colorado at Arizona9:40 PM XM 189Tickets | TravelCook vs Webb
Chicago Sox at LA Angels10:05 PM XM 182Tickets | TravelVazquez vs Garland
Old 05-15-08, 06:15 AM
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The Red Sox can't lose today!
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I think I'm going to start just DVRing the games and watching if they win
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The pressure is on Laffey in Cleveland today, with 43 1/3 straight scoreless inning by their starters. (in two of his three starts he pitched 7 scoreless innings, so it could continue)
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kennedy??? he is pitching tonight
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It's expected that Edmonds will be in the lineup today against the Pads if he passes his physical.

Good luck on the North Side, #15.
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Originally Posted by huh?
The Red Sox can't lose today!
haha, i hate to say it, but that's exactly what i was thinking.
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Originally Posted by B.A.
It's expected that Edmonds will be in the lineup today against the Pads if he passes his physical.

Good luck on the North Side, #15.
I was pulling for him with the Padres. Unfortunately, I can't quite do the same with the Cubs.

I love the boneheaded comment by the Cubs GM as it relates to Edmonds joining the Cubs: "There is really no negative in it." Sure, Hendry, inserting an outfielder batting .178 and already suspected of being on the downside of his career should have a guaranteed postive effect on the Cubbies.
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How'd that seeing @BAL on the schedule turn out for the Sox?
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Originally Posted by cardsfan111
I love the boneheaded comment by the Cubs GM as it relates to Edmonds joining the Cubs: "There is really no negative in it." Sure, Hendry, inserting an outfielder batting .178 and already suspected of being on the downside of his career should have a guaranteed postive effect on the Cubbies.
While I'm not really a fan of Hendry, he is actually correct in his statement. It's not really surprising that a Cards fan can't see it.

Here is the full quote from Hendry, ""There's no negatives in it," Hendry said. "You're not giving up players, you're not spending a lot of dollars."

The Cubs sent down Pie who is struggling and needs to play regularly in order to get better. That wasn’t going to happen with the Cubs since they were using him as a platoon player. Now he’ll be able to play every day and hopefully improve. Edmonds will not be the everyday Centerfielder as he also will platoon with Johnson.
On the money front the Cubs are only paying a prorated Major League minimum to take a look at Edmonds while the Cards are paying him 2 million dollars. That sounds good to me, they get to see if there is anything left in the tank while the Cards are footing the majority of the bill.

After a taking a look, if Edmonds hasn’t improved, the Cubs can cut him and bring back up Pie if he is ready. After looking at all sides I think Hendry is correct in saying, ”There's no negatives in it…”

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Originally Posted by Red Dog
How'd that seeing @BAL on the schedule turn out for the Sox?


Nothing like coming off a bad series and seeing "Off" on the schedule.
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Ryan Braun signed an 8 year $45 million dollar deal with the Brew Crew. Eight years?
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Originally Posted by WCChiCubsFan
While I'm not really a fan of Hendry, he is actually correct in his statement. It's not really surprising that a Cards fan can't see it.

Here is the full quote from Hendry, ""There's no negatives in it," Hendry said. "You're not giving up players, you're not spending a lot of dollars."

The Cubs sent down Pie who is struggling and needs to play regularly in order to get better. That wasn’t going to happen with the Cubs since they were using him as a platoon player. Now he’ll be able to play every day and hopefully improve. Edmonds will not be the everyday Centerfielder as he also will platoon with Johnson.
On the money front the Cubs are only paying a prorated Major League minimum to take a look at Edmonds while the Cards are paying him 2 million dollars. That sounds good to me, they get to see if there is anything left in the tank while the Cards are footing the majority of the bill.

After a taking a look, if Edmonds hasn’t improved, the Cubs can cut him and bring back up Pie if he is ready. After looking at all sides I think Hendry is correct in saying, ”There's no negatives in it…”
Very nice synopsis!

With the Cub offense clicking the way it has been, Edmonds will see a lot of good pitches to hit when he's in the lineup. I'd also think the course of the season thus far for Edmonds must have had a humbling effect, which could translate into a another positive veteran influence in the locker room. If he shows nothing but the suck, however, bye bye Jimmy...

At any rate, I don't think the team really loses anything right now with this move (somewhat improved offense vs. somewhat weakened outfield defense). Pie, on the other hand, gets to play every day and will also be working full time with Minor League hitting instructor Dave Keller. I suspect that by the end of the summer Pie will either have worked his way back to the Show or be on his way out of the organization.
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Jimmy Edmonds hitting 6th for the Cubs today against the team that released him last Friday...

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Damnit, Ballgame grounded into a double-play in his second at-bat.
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Ryan Braun signed an 8 year $45 million dollar deal with the Brew Crew. Eight years?
Good deal for the Brewers. Too bad they can't play him at DH.
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Originally Posted by WCChiCubsFan
While I'm not really a fan of Hendry, he is actually correct in his statement. It's not really surprising that a Cards fan can't see it.

Here is the full quote from Hendry, ""There's no negatives in it," Hendry said. "You're not giving up players, you're not spending a lot of dollars."

On the money front the Cubs are only paying a prorated Major League minimum to take a look at Edmonds while the Cards are paying him 2 million dollars. That sounds good to me, they get to see if there is anything left in the tank while the Cards are footing the majority of the bill.

After a taking a look, if Edmonds hasn’t improved, the Cubs can cut him and bring back up Pie if he is ready. After looking at all sides I think Hendry is correct in saying, ”There's no negatives in it…”
I understand the Cubs not giving up players or alot of money to bring Edmonds in. Putting aside my Cards hat for a moment, I just look at it this way. The Cubs sent down Pie who was batting .222 with a .571 OPS (in 63 ABs) and replaced him with Edmonds who in 90 ABs is hitting .178 with a .498 OPS. Edmonds has thus far proven to be a lesser offensive player (with less upside might I add because of his age)

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At any rate, I don't think the team really loses anything right now with this move (somewhat improved offense vs. somewhat weakened outfield defense).
And this move also weakens the Cubs outfield defense. And yet, Cubs fans are thinking this has no negatives in it...


The 2 million dollars the Cards spent to get Edmonds contract off the books was a great investment. Especially since that money also got a declining player off the roster, opening up space for guys like Schumaker and Ludwick. Now that the Cards are "paying" Edmonds to play for their rivals, and assuming he continues at his .178/.498 clip, this move really pays off for the Cards.

Having said all that, Edmonds might have a little left in the tank and I'll end up with egg on my face. Honestly, I'm surprised Jimmy signed with the Cubs to play a part-time role. He wanted no part of that with the Cards which is the reason he was traded in the first place.
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Izzy sucks so much ass.

And fuck TLR for bringing him in the eighth.

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Originally Posted by B.A.
Izzy sucks so much ass.

And fuck TLR for bringing him in the eighth.

Now we have an 'extra' inning to come back!
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Izzy sucks so much ass.

And fuck TLR for bringing him in the eighth.


I agree. Dump his sorry ass please. He is the reason we aren't in first place right now.
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Kennedy just gave up a home run in the first inning to the first batter with the second pitch..

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The Twins have really been playing ugly this series and it is costing them.
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Nice day for Ryan Dempster in Chicago!

8.1 IP, 6 H, 0 R, 1 BB, and a career high 12 Ks!

He's now 5-1 with a 2.35 ERA.

(NOTE: Thanks to Wood for keeping the shutout intact after coming in with 2 runners on and only 1 out in the 9th)

The Cards & Brewers both lose and the Astros are currently losing. Looks to be a great day in the NL Central!
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Originally Posted by cardsfan111
I understand the Cubs not giving up players or alot of money to bring Edmonds in. Putting aside my Cards hat for a moment, I just look at it this way. The Cubs sent down Pie who was batting .222 with a .571 OPS (in 63 ABs) and replaced him with Edmonds who in 90 ABs is hitting .178 with a .498 OPS. Edmonds has thus far proven to be a lesser offensive player (with less upside might I add because of his age)
Pie needed to be sent down regardless, and the Cubs have been wanting to add another left-handed bat anyway.

Edmonds might not work out at all and be gone before the all-star break. In which case, little investment lost. If Edmonds does shine in his part-time role, however, brilliant move by Hendry, eh?

And this move also weakens the Cubs outfield defense. And yet, Cubs fans are thinking this has no negatives in it...
As I pointed out previously, the slightly weakened outfield defense should be compensated by slightly improved offense. Edmonds won't get any more playing time than Pie was getting if his production continues as it did in San Diego. Pie was only getting every 4th or 5th start. Therefore, a crappy hitting Edmonds shouldn't get a lot of opportunities to be a crappy fielding Edmonds.

Edmonds should see a lot of good pitches after being inserted in the high-powered Cub offense, especially coming in as the weakest link other than the pitcher (unless Big Z is on the hill). It shouldn't take long to determine if there's anything left in Jimmy's tank.

The 2 million dollars the Cards spent to get Edmonds contract off the books was a great investment. Especially since that money also got a declining player off the roster, opening up space for guys like Schumaker and Ludwick. Now that the Cards are "paying" Edmonds to play for their rivals, and assuming he continues at his .178/.498 clip, this move really pays off for the Cards.

Having said all that, Edmonds might have a little left in the tank and I'll end up with egg on my face. Honestly, I'm surprised Jimmy signed with the Cubs to play a part-time role. He wanted no part of that with the Cards which is the reason he was traded in the first place.
I would be amazed if Edmonds doesn't improve on those numbers! My guess would be somewhere in the .260/.750 area. Nothing too exciting, but it will be enough to help the Cub offense keep chugging along until Pie or someone else is ready to take the spot.

He's probably more accepting of the part-time role idea now after the course his career has taken, especially since the trade. Big dose of reality! Mayhap he's smart enough to to have realized that playing every day is simply no longer in his Cards...

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