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Old 02-03-08, 09:58 PM
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Best team in sports history?

Now that the Patriots are out of the discussion, who do we got now?

The Dolphins were perfect but I'm going with the 95'-96' Chicago Bulls.
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Some people were arguing that the Pats wouldn't have been the best team every even if they went 19-0. I didn't really have an opinion on that since I can't really comment on the 1985 Bears.

Either way, I'd go with the 1998 Yankees.
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Has to be the '72 Dolphins. Undefeated is undefeated.

Pats 18-1 means shit.
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Originally Posted by Goat3001
Either way, I'd go with the 1998 Yankees.
Not a horrible choice, especially since I'd expect to see most of the responses feature teams from the last thirty years or so. 1984 Tigers also came to mind in terms of baseball teams during my lifetime.
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Originally Posted by Tommy_Harn
Not a horrible choice, especially since I'd expect to see most of the responses feature teams from the last thirty years or so. 1984 Tigers also came to mind in terms of baseball teams during my lifetime.
Well I was born in 1985, so I it would be tough for me to comment on anything before that. I'm also just a big baseball and football guy. I know a little basketball and the 95-96 Bulls were already mentioned. I know nothing about hockey.

If we really go beyond the big 4 sports we could probably come up with a dominant Brazillian Soccer team as the best ever.
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I'm a Boston sports hater, but either the 1957-1969 Celtics who won 11 championships in 13 seasons, or John Wooden's mid-60's through mid-70's UCLA Bruins who won 10 championships in 12 years. Two feats that will never be duplicated. I'll throw the 1970's 4 championships in 6 seasons Pittsburgh Steelers in there, too.

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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
Now that the Patriots are out of the discussion, who do we got now?

The Dolphins were perfect but I'm going with the 95'-96' Chicago Bulls.
I spent a lot of nights in the old Garden in the mid '80s, and that '85-'86 team with a healthy Walton was really something to see......
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Originally Posted by cupcake jesus
I'm a Boston sports hater, but either the 1957-1969 Celtics who won 11 championships in 13 seasons, or John Wooden's mid-60's through mid-70's UCLA Bruins who won 10 championships in 12 years. Two feats that will never be duplicated. I'll throw the 1970's 4 championships in 6 seasons Pittsburgh Steelers in there, too.

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If we were talking dynasties you'd be spot on but I think we're talking about single teams.
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How about the 1983-1984 Edmonton Oilers who went 57-18-5 for 119 points, scored 446 goals, gave up 314 goals, had 4 players score 100 or more points apiece, including Gretzky with 205 points and won the Stanley Cup?

Besides Gretzky, they also had Jari Kurri, Mark Messier, Paul Coffey, Glenn Anderson (who had 99 points), Dave Hunter, Kevin Lowe, Dave Semenko and Grant Fuhr in goal with Andy Moog as backup.

Another Stanley Cup winning team I would put up as one of the greatest ever would be the 2001-2002 Detroit Red Wings. They went 51-17-10-4 for 116 points and arguably had the most talent of any team in NHL history:

Steve Yzerman
Brendan Shanahan
Sergei Federov
Brett Hull
Nicklas Lidstrom
Luc Robitaille
Igor Larionov
Chris Chelios
Pavel Datsyuk
Dominik Hasek
Scotty Bowman as Coach

10 Hall of Famers plus one more well on his way.
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
Now that the Patriots are out of the discussion, who do we got now?

The Dolphins were perfect but I'm going with the 95'-96' Chicago Bulls.

The 95'-96' Bulls were the first team I thought of.
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Agreed. With free agency and salary caps, it will be impossible for a team to keep a group of that many hall of famers together on one team ever again.
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Originally Posted by cupcake jesus
I'm a Boston sports hater, but either the 1957-1969 Celtics who won 11 championships in 13 seasons, or John Wooden's mid-60's through mid-70's UCLA Bruins who won 10 championships in 12 years. Two feats that will never be duplicated.
These are the two runs I thought of....though UCLA had to play fewer games than teams now, it STILL will never happen again.
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Originally Posted by slymer
The 95'-96' Bulls were the first team I thought of.
Don't sell the 82-83 Sixers short.
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Originally Posted by TallGuyMe
Has to be the '72 Dolphins. Undefeated is undefeated.
Not a chance. They didn't play quality competition and were one play away from losing the superbowl (pass hit the goal post, receiver was open).

That team was way more lucky than good. Frankly, the Pats would destroy them if they played today. 49-7.

Despite losing the Super Bowl, the Pats have to be in the discussion. Two major record setters, blew away most of the competition, won huge games (except the big one). Easily top ten.
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The 75-76, 76-77, and 77-78 Montreal Canadiens were some of the greatest NHL teams; they went 58-11-11, 60-8-12, and 59-10-11 in those 3 years (winning 4 consecutive Cups).

Going 60-8-12 in 76-77 for 132 points.

1st in Wins (11 more than the Bruins)
1st in Points (20 more than the Flyers)
1st in Goals Scored (64 more than the Flyers
1st in Goals Allowed (22 less than the Islanders)
Lafleur won the scoring race, Shutt was 3rd.
Shutt was #1 in goals, Lafleur was #2.
Lafleur was #1 in assists, Robinson was tied for third.

Some of the players from the 76-77 team, coached by Scotty Bowman...
Guy Lafleur
Steve Shutt
Larry Robinson
Guy Lapointe
Jacques Lemaire
Pete Mahovlich
Yvan Cournoyer
Serge Savard
Doug Jarvis
Bob Gainey
Ken Dryden
Bunny Larocque

8 HOF Players & 1 HOF Coach

They went 12-2 in the playoffs (outscoring opponents 54 to 23)...up there with the Oilers, Wings, and Islanders teams.
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
Despite losing the Super Bowl, the Pats have to be in the discussion.
No.

They aren't even the greateast team of THIS YEAR. Forget about all-time.
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
Not a chance. They didn't play quality competition and were one play away from losing the superbowl (pass hit the goal post, receiver was open).

That team was way more lucky than good. Frankly, the Pats would destroy them if they played today. 49-7.

Despite losing the Super Bowl, the Pats have to be in the discussion. Two major record setters, blew away most of the competition, won huge games (except the big one). Easily top ten.

No.
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Originally Posted by Arpeggi
No.
Agree. You can't lose the big game and be considered the greatest anything.
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Originally Posted by ToddSm66
No.

They aren't even the greateast team of THIS YEAR. Forget about all-time.
So in agreement. In fact, I wouldn't hesitate to say the 2007 Patriots are far and away the worst team mentioned in this thread so far.

To get the '07 Pats in the conversation, maybe we could start a separate thread for the most overhyped flops of all time. Or the least likely team to win a championship without the assistance of videotape.
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Originally Posted by ToddSm66
No.

They aren't even the greateast team of THIS YEAR. Forget about all-time.
even with only one loss, it's fun saying that the Patriots this year were only second best

as for "the best team in sports history" it's kinda hard to pin that on one team from every single sports league.

Could the Patriots win a World Series? Could the Yankees go 19-0 and win a championship? Could the Red Wings take down the Spurs?

like I said, it's hard to pin the title of "the best" on just one team out of the entire professional sports league

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