Play a game with me. Hall of Famer or not?
06-26-20, 09:44 PM
#1576
Re: Play a game with me. Hall of Famer or not?
Originally Posted by Red Hood
If I remember correctly, the Raptors and many other teams didn't think that he was worth the max cause he hadn't fully developed as a scorer like Kobe or KG had. T-Mac at that point was known for his defense although it was clear that he could score, but the question was about consistency. Orlando took a gamble on him because they were trying to recover from the lost luster the franchise had gone through after losing Shaq in 96 and then trading Penny. Orlando was also a good destination for players due to the tax breaks, something that the Raptors have had issues with when signing players. The Magic wanted to get 2 out of the 3 big free agents and it work well for them until Grant Hill didn't recover from that ankle injury he suffered when he was with the Pistons.
I still believe that T-Mac and Vince would have been a combination similar to Jordan and Pippen. With players like Oak, Antonio Davis and Kevin Willis or even Hakeem, they could have had a much better run than what ended up happening.
I still believe that T-Mac and Vince would have been a combination similar to Jordan and Pippen. With players like Oak, Antonio Davis and Kevin Willis or even Hakeem, they could have had a much better run than what ended up happening.
I don't know if they would have beaten the Kobe Shaq Lakers that next year (I think they would have beaten both the 76ers and Milwaukee to make the Finals) but even Kobe said he thought they would have won at least one title if they had stayed together. We sometimes forget because of his offense but McGrady was a beast defensively too.
06-28-20, 02:25 PM
#1577
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Play a game with me. Hall of Famer or not?
This Vince Carter talk led me down a Rasheed-Jamison-Stackhouse rabbit hole. UNC was cranking out some great players, and I’d forgotten how long their NBA careers lasted.
Last edited by davidh777; 06-28-20 at 02:31 PM.
06-29-20, 01:27 AM
#1578
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Play a game with me. Hall of Famer or not?
Is Matty Ice a Hall of Famer?
He has better stats than Eli though zero rings but should have gotten one in Super Bowl 51
He does not get the best pass protection but still finds ways to produce.
He has better stats than Eli though zero rings but should have gotten one in Super Bowl 51
He does not get the best pass protection but still finds ways to produce.
06-29-20, 12:07 PM
#1579
Re: Play a game with me. Hall of Famer or not?
Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca
Is Matty Ice a Hall of Famer?
He has better stats than Eli though zero rings but should have gotten one in Super Bowl 51
He does not get the best pass protection but still finds ways to produce.
He has better stats than Eli though zero rings but should have gotten one in Super Bowl 51
He does not get the best pass protection but still finds ways to produce.
06-29-20, 11:18 PM
#1580
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Re: Play a game with me. Hall of Famer or not?
Matt Ryan is already 10th in passing yards in NFL History,and if he just had average/median statistics for a QB 4-5 more seasons he might go top 3-5.
06-30-20, 12:07 AM
#1581
Re: Play a game with me. Hall of Famer or not?
Originally Posted by AaronHernandez
Matt Ryan is already 10th in passing yards in NFL History,and if he just had average/median statistics for a QB 4-5 more seasons he might go top 3-5.
06-30-20, 12:14 AM
#1582
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Re: Play a game with me. Hall of Famer or not?
Originally Posted by fujishig
Oh he can definitely get there, I just don't think he's a lock right now, especially with inflated numbers in the current era.
06-30-20, 12:35 AM
#1583
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Play a game with me. Hall of Famer or not?
Originally Posted by AaronHernandez
Maybe not first ballot but guys who finish top 5-10 in stat accumilation and skill positions always get in (see tim brown,curtis martin,jerome bettis).
07-02-20, 02:20 PM
#1585
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Re: Play a game with me. Hall of Famer or not?
Originally Posted by EddieMoney
Sad to see no love for Rob Deer
