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Old 11-13-06, 12:06 PM
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Michigan and Ohio State fans please read...

OK, so I'm confused about something on one of the SportsCenter graphics comparing the teams. In the National Title column, they have 6 for OSU and 2 for Michigan. Now, according to NationalChamps.net, OSU has 5 (42, 54, 57, 68, 2002) and Michigan has 10 (01, 02, 03, 04, 16, 23, 32, 33, 48, 97). So, I'm assuming they are only counting 1942 and on. But the question is, where is the 6th OSU championship coming from?
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Old 11-13-06, 12:18 PM
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According to this Ohio State would have 7 since 1942 (42, 54, 57, 61, 68, 70, 02) and Michigan 2 (48, 97).
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Michigan also chooses () to recognize the 1947 national championship that was awarded to them by the first ever postseason AP vote on January 6 which vaulted them over Notre Dame at #1. Notre Dame was awarded the championship based upon the regular season vote that occured prior to the bowls. Both schools claim the National Championship as their own, although ND is listed as the winner most of the time.
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We need an official OSU vs. UofM thread.
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Originally Posted by Daryl
Michigan also chooses () to recognize the 1947 national championship that was awarded to them by the first ever postseason AP vote on January 6 which vaulted them over Notre Dame at #1. Notre Dame was awarded the championship based upon the regular season vote that occured prior to the bowls. Both schools claim the National Championship as their own, although ND is listed as the winner most of the time.
And yet this still makes a shitload more sense than the BCS.
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Originally Posted by El Scorcho
And yet this still makes a shitload more sense than the BCS.
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Old 11-13-06, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by WallyOPD
According to this Ohio State would have 7 since 1942 (42, 54, 57, 61, 68, 70, 02) and Michigan 2 (48, 97).
Well, I guess SC just decided not to count 2002, since we all know Miami won that game on the field and OSU stole that title .

(Actually, SC probably didn't count 1970, since that site you posted had about 258 teams winning the national title that year.)
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Originally Posted by Quake1028
Well, I guess SC just decided not to count 2002, since we all know Miami won that game on the field and OSU stole that title .

(Actually, SC probably didn't count 1970, since that site you posted had about 258 teams winning the national title that year.)




You are never letting that one go, are you?
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I love all of the national championships that Michigan claims to have...its pretty funny when you claim to have 10/11 championships and everyone else gives you credit for 2.
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Originally Posted by Snowmaker
We need an official OSU vs. UofM thread.
NO

believe it or not everyone is not gonna be gluedto the TV for thsi game

I wish it'd get over with so the sports media would shut up already!!!!!!!
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i would go down to columbus (not for the game but for the aftermath) but my car is blue and they turn over blue cars there----even if it's an OSU fan!! (savages)
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Originally Posted by paulringodaman
i would go down to columbus (not for the game but for the aftermath) but my car is blue and they turn over blue cars there----even if it's an OSU fan!! (savages)
Stick OSU magnets all over it and fly OSU flags. Even OSU students should be able to figure that one out.
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Stick OSU magnets all over it and fly OSU flags. Even OSU students should be able to figure that one out.

Nah, I would just assume he was from Oregon of Oklahoma.



But I did at least learn how to read at the other two schools spent time at.
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A friend just forward this to me....it's an email from the Dean to the student body....Man Ann Arbor is one pussified town!

"We know that it can be uncomfortable being in an opposing team's environment, especially when the stakes are so high. We would like to offer a few suggestions in order to help you stay safe and have a positive experience this weekend:

--Try carpooling to the game; if possible, drive a car with non- Michigan license plates.
--Keep your Michigan gear to a minimum, or wait until you are inside the stadium to display it.
--Stay with a group.
--Know and obey the laws regarding alcohol use.
--If you are of legal age to drink, use alcohol in moderation. Stay in the blue.
--Stay low-key; don't draw unnecessary attention to yourself.
--If verbally harrassed by opposing fans, don't take the bait.
--Avoid High Street in Columbus.

If at any time you feel unsafe, you should call 9-1-1 for assistance. U-M campus police also will be available in Columbus to support our fans. You may call them with non-emergency concerns at (734) 216-9159.

We look forward to a tremendous game on Saturday. Let's help the Wolverines win with spirit and class."
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Originally Posted by Pharoh


You are never letting that one go, are you?
No. It's all I have now .
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Originally Posted by The Zizz
I love all of the national championships that Michigan claims to have...its pretty funny when you claim to have 10/11 championships and everyone else gives you credit for 2.
the only one in dispute is 1947. Otherwise their other titles are recognized by, well, pretty much everyone. The "2" comes from the fact that they have 2 since 1936, when the AP poll was established. All schools that won MNC's prior to 1936 (Notre Dame, USC, Michigan, etc) include those in their counts:

http://nationalchamps.net/NCAA/natio...ps_history.htm
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God damn, looking at that site reminds me how dominant Miami was in the 10 year stretch from 1983-1992. They won 4 National Titles, finished 2nd two years, and finished 3rd two years. Wow.
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I think most people, other than Michigan (and Yale), count post-1936 national championships when there were actually polls. The ealrier ones weren't awarded by polls conducted at the time, but instead are "recognized" by different research organizations which don't always agree with each other. (For example, the link you posted lists Michigan as the national champions for 1901 and 1902, but other groups recognize Harvard and Yale for 1901 and Yale for 1902. In 1903, Princeton was also recognized. 1904: Penn also recognized. 1923: California also recognized. 1932: Michigan, Colgate, Southern Cal all recognized. 1933: Michigan, Ohio State, Princeton, and Southern Cal all recognized. See http://bentley.umich.edu/athdept/foo.../natchamp.htm). When people consider which schools have one the most national championships, they're usually talking about Notre Dame and Oklahoma, not Yale.

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Your link is bad (it is including the parenthesis).
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Originally Posted by The Zizz
I think most people, other than Michigan (and Yale), count post-1936 national championships when there were actually polls. The ealrier ones weren't awarded by polls conducted at the time, but instead are "recognized" by different research organizations which don't always agree with each other. (For example, the link you posted lists Michigan as the national champions for 1901 and 1902, but other groups recognize Harvard and Yale for 1901 and Yale for 1902. In 1903, Princeton was also recognized. 1904: Penn also recognized. 1923: California also recognized. 1932: Michigan, Colgate, Southern Cal all recognized. 1933: Michigan, Ohio State, Princeton, and Southern Cal all recognized. See http://bentley.umich.edu/athdept/foo.../natchamp.htm). When people consider which schools have one the most national championships, they're usually talking about Notre Dame and Oklahoma, not Yale.
Actually, if you want to count only post 1936, then it would be:

Notre Dame - 8
Southern Cal - 7
Alabama - 7
Oklahoma - 7
Miami - 5 (Really 6)
Ohio State - 5 (Really 4)
Nebraska - 5
Texas - 4
Minnesota - 4

(Pretty amazing that 9 schools have won 52 of the 70 AP Titles)

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Originally Posted by The Zizz
I think most people, other than Michigan (and Yale), count post-1936 national championships when there were actually polls.
I curious as to who these people are.
from Notre Dame's own site:
Notre Dame generally is considered to have earned 11 consensus national titles (1924-29-30-43-46-47-49-66-73-77-88).
from USC's site:
Football (11)
1928 Howard Jones
1931 Howard Jones
1932 Howard Jones
....
from Alabama's site:
Football (12)
1925
1926
1930
1934
...
so it's OK for those schools to promote their pre-1936 championships, but not Michigan? Um, OK.
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And NC.net lists 13, 9 and 11 for those schools, respectively .
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Originally Posted by Quake1028
Actually, if you want to count only post 1936, then it would be:

Notre Dame - 8
Southern Cal - 7
Alabama - 7
Oklahoma - 7
Miami - 5
Ohio State - 5
Nebraska - 5
Texas - 4
Minnesota - 4
But 11 of the post-1936 years saw two schools split the national title between them. Adjusting the figures to account for half-championships, you get:

Notre Dame - 7.5 (7 full/1 split)
Oklahoma - 6.5 (6/1)
Alabama - 5.5 (4/3)
Southern Cal - 5.5 (4/3)
Miami - 4.5 (4/1)
Nebraska - 4 (3/2)
Ohio State - 4 (3/2)
Minnesota - 4 (4/0)
Texas - 3.5 (3/1)

The rest....
Army - 2 (2/0)
Florida State - 2 (2/0)
Penn State - 2 (2/0)
Pittsburgh - 2 (2/0)
Tennessee - 2 (2/0)
Louisiana State - 1.5 (1/1)
Michigan - 1.5 (1/1)
Michigan State - 1.5 (1/1)
Brigham Young - 1 (1/0)
Clemson - 1 (1/0)
Florida - 1 (1/0)
Georgia - 1 (1/0)
Maryland - 1 (1/0)
Syracuse - 1 (1/0)
Texas Christian - 1 (1/0)
Texas A&M - 1 (1/0)
Auburn - 0.5 (0/1)
Colorado - 0.5 (0/1)
Georgia Tech - 0.5 (0/1)
UCLA - 0.5 (0/1)
Washington - 0.5 (0/1)
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A friend just forward this to me....it's an email from the Dean to the student body....Man Ann Arbor is one pussified town!
yeah, laugh at michigan fans because OSU fans are crazy. that makes sense.
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Originally Posted by brizz
A friend just forward this to me....it's an email from the Dean to the student body....Man Ann Arbor is one pussified town!
This reminds me of the "Ok everyone, Miami is coming to town, they're going to try to start fights, just ignore them" email from the Georgia Tech president.
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