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Old 08-28-05, 06:54 PM
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Ken Griffey Jr.

Hope to not curse the guy, but he is having an amazing season this year. Back to old Ken Griffey Jr. numbers, I wonder whats changed and kept him off the DL? I was just so surprised when I saw he had 33 homers and 90 RBI going into today. couldn't have been on roids, he's too small.
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Actually, he's not small. He's chunky.

Anyways, I really wished the ChiSox could get him in their lineup. But the Reds won't budge, even though that franchise is going absolutely nowhere.
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Being "small" doesn't mean you can't be on steroids just like being big doesn't mean you are on steroids.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
Actually, he's not small. He's chunky.

Anyways, I really wished the ChiSox could get him in their lineup. But the Reds won't budge, even though that franchise is going absolutely nowhere.
I still don't think he's big enough to have been taking roids.
White Sox would be scary with him in their lineup
Old 08-28-05, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mautos
I still don't think he's big enough to have been taking roids.
White Sox would be scary with him in their lineup
there's different types of juice. some give you endurance, some make you recover faster.

Alex Sanchez took juice and he's not exactly big. Palmiero took juice and he's not exactly big. David Eckstein is rumored to have been caught for taking juice (they say that he's in the appeal process) and he's not exactly big. Lance Armstrong is rumored to have juiced and he's not exactly big. Get my point?

Also, for the record, I don't think that Griffey has juiced
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I was just watching SC this weekend and saw Girffey hitting his 31 and 32 HR and thought the same thing about him. Admist all the bad press that baseball has been getting this year (Barry Bonds, Rafy Palmeiro, Randy Johnson, Jose Canseco, etc.. etc..) his year is definitely one of the few feel good stories this season. Hope I didnt jinx him.
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well when's his contract end with Cincy?
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I don't Jr was ever did roids either.

He was the best player in baseball w/Seattle and wasn't hurt that often except a broken wrist. He didn't need them then so why would he start when he went to the Reds.

Its funny how players who are injury prone are accused of juicing, and then players who are remarkably healthy (Palmerio) are also accused of being on steriods.
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Originally Posted by edytwinky
well when's his contract end with Cincy?
IIRC, he's got 2-3 more years.
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[QUOTE=Dabaomb]David Eckstein is rumored to have been caught for taking juice (they say that he's in the appeal process) and he's not exactly big. /QUOTE]


what? You have a link?
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Originally Posted by edytwinky
well when's his contract end with Cincy?
Contract with the Reds runs through 2008, and the Reds have another option year after that.
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I wonder how many years like this he has left in him, and maybe since he started training hard in the off season he can keep himself off the DL for a few seasons.
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Originally Posted by Dabaomb
David Eckstein is rumored to have been caught for taking juice (they say that he's in the appeal process) and he's not exactly big.
I find this absolutely riduculous. Do I even bother to ask where you heard this from? Oh wait...probably Cubs fans
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Originally Posted by Dabaomb
there's different types of juice. some give you endurance, some make you recover faster.

Alex Sanchez took juice and he's not exactly big. Palmiero took juice and he's not exactly big. David Eckstein is rumored to have been caught for taking juice (they say that he's in the appeal process) and he's not exactly big. Lance Armstrong is rumored to have juiced and he's not exactly big. Get my point?

Also, for the record, I don't think that Griffey has juiced
Maybe I'm being nieve, but I still think Lance is clean.
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Originally Posted by mautos
Hope to not curse the guy, but he is having an amazing season this year. Back to old Ken Griffey Jr. numbers, I wonder whats changed and kept him off the DL? I was just so surprised when I saw he had 33 homers and 90 RBI going into today. couldn't have been on roids, he's too small.
I was going to post something similar earlier but didn't want to curse him . I think Griffey is the best baseball story this year. He didn't start hitting until May - I wonder what he will do during a full year completely healthy. 45 homers?
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full year healthy, Ken Griffey, does not compute.
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http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sports...?event_id=1583

Wednesday, August 31

Vote: Is Ken Griffey Jr. the best of his era?
SportsNation

1) Who gets your vote for baseball's comeback player of the year?

78.8% Ken Griffey
13.2% Jason Giambi
2.5% Barry Zito
2.2% Andy Pettitte
1.9% Bob Wickman
1.4% Roy Halladay

2) After Griffey's recent string of injuries, did you ever think he would regain his form?
56.4% No
43.6% Yes

3) What do you expect from Griffey next season?
75.0% He'll repeat this season.
14.5% He'll have at least one lengthy stint on the DL.
10.5% He'll stay healthy, but his numbers will fall off.

4) If you were the GM of a potential contender, would you take the financial hit of his contract and trade away prospects to acquire Griffey in the offseason?
53.9% Yes, he's one of the most dangerous hitters in the game.
46.1% No, the combination of his age and injury history makes it too risky.

5) If you were part of the new ownership in Cincinnati, what would you want to do with Griffey in the offseason?
66.1% Trade him while his value is as high as it's likely to be at this point in his career.
33.9% Build around whatever he has left, on and off the field.

6) Where will Ken Griffey Jr. begin next season?
54.3% Cincinnati
45.7% Elsewhere

7) Griffey has 534 career home runs; how many will he finish his career with?
73.1% 600-699
12.6% 534-599
9.9% 700-755
4.4% 756 or more

8) Has the controversy over steroids improved your opinion of Griffey?
70.9% Yes
29.1% No

9) Is Griffey the greatest all-around player of his generation?
63.7% Yes
36.3% No

Total Votes: 11,606
Old 08-31-05, 11:33 PM
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I think Eckstein was the player who couldn't take steroids because of a history of health issues in the family and was apealling using this argument. it was mentioned by Gammons (I think) in one of his articles and reporters started a guess game using his name. It was something like "among the players caught (taking steroids) are an all star and one player who could not have used steroids because of health issues in his family", or something close to this.

I don't follow Eckstein's career so I can't comment on this, but this is probably where it started.
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Griffey update, he now has 35 HR's on the year and is tied with Mickey Mantle for 12th on the all time list. Impressive...
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And he tweaked his ankle,may miss a few game's.
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i think they said foot.. not ankle

not that it matters much
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As long as it's not his hamstrings, he should be OK.
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nothing official, but doesnt sound good

While Ken Griffey Jr. is offically listed as day-to-day with a strained right foot, the injury could be more serious, the Dayton Daily News reported in its Wednesday edition.

A source said Griffey actually pulled part of a tendon off the bone, "Potentially a serious situation, potentially a season-ending injury," the source told the paper.

Griffey, who'd like to play again this season, will be treated with anti-inflammatories and rehab over the next three days. Griffey will then be reevaluated Friday.

Griffey might be able to pinch hit, might be able to play, "but if the tendon tears completely off the bone his season is over," the source told the paper.

Griffey, however, said he hasn't received any info from the Reds medical staff on his season possibly being over and is proceeding as though he will learn more about his injury on Friday.

The injury is similar to one Griffey sustained on the same foot two years ago, a partial tear, and at the time the tendon was sewn back onto the bone.

Griffey is already expected to have arthroscopic surgery on his left knee, in addition to an operation to fix a hole in his leg left over from his hamstring surgery last year that seeps.
2005 SEASON STATISTICS
GM HR RBI R OBP AVG
128 35 92 85 .369 .301
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Originally Posted by twikoff
Griffey is already expected to have . . . an operation to fix a hole in his leg left over from his hamstring surgery last year that seeps.
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I knew it was too good to be true for this guy.

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