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Old 08-12-05, 07:22 AM
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MLB Friday August 12th

Thursday, August 11, 2005
RESULTWINLOSSSAVEATT.
at Toronto 2, Detroit 1Downs (1-2) Bonderman (13-9) Batista (20) 30,578
at Chicago Cubs 11, St. Louis 4Maddux (9-9) Mulder (13-6) 38,170
Pittsburgh 11, at Colorado 3Fogg (6-7) Francis (11-8) 21,102
at Oakland 5, LA Angels 4Duchscherer (6-2) Shields (7-8) 31,471
at San Diego 2, NY Mets 1Williams (6-8) Glavine (8-10) Hoffman (30) 35,148
at Baltimore 4, Tampa Bay 2Chen (9-6) Waechter (4-8) Ryan (25) 27,958
at NY Yankees 9, Texas 8Sturtze (4-1) Baldwin (0-2) Rivera (31) 54,283
Arizona 3, at Florida 1Webb (10-8) de los Santos (1-2) Valverde (4) 20,432
San Francisco 5, at Atlanta 3Schmidt (9-6) Hudson (8-7) Walker (20) 26,577
at Houston 6, Washington 3Pettitte (10-8) Drese (3-6) 35,036
Cleveland 4, at Kansas City 2Millwood (6-9) Carrasco (5-6) Wickman (32) 14,506
at LA Dodgers 5, Philadelphia 1Perez (7-6) Lidle (9-10) 44,963

Friday, August 12, 2005
TEAMSTIME (ET)NAT TVXM RADIOSTAT PACKTICKETSPITCHERS
St. Louis at Chicago Cubs2:20 PM XM 186PrintTicketsMarquis vs Zambrano
Chicago Sox at Boston7:05 PM XM 177PrintTicketsBuehrle vs Wells
Tampa Bay at Cleveland7:05 PM XM 179PrintTicketsHendrickson vs Westbrook
Texas at NY Yankees7:05 PM XM 176PrintTicketsYoung vs Leiter
Toronto at Baltimore7:35 PM XM 178PrintTicketsTowers vs Cabrera
Arizona at Atlanta7:35 PM XM 184PrintTicketsVargas vs Sosa
San Francisco at Florida7:35 PM XM 183PrintTicketsLowry vs Willis
Cincinnati at Milwaukee8:05 PM XM 185PrintTicketsHudson vs Capuano
Pittsburgh at Houston8:05 PM XM 186PrintTicketsDuke vs Oswalt
Detroit at Kansas City8:10 PM XM 180PrintTicketsJohnson vs Lima
Washington at Colorado9:05 PM XM 187PrintTicketsLoaiza vs Wright
Minnesota at Oakland10:05 PM XM 182PrintTicketsSantana vs Haren
LA Angels at Seattle10:05 PM XM 181PrintTicketsWashburn vs Moyer
Philadelphia at San Diego10:05 PM XM 189PrintTicketsLieber vs Peavy
NY Mets at LA Dodgers10:40 PM XM 188PrintTicketsZambrano vs Weaver
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Old 08-12-05, 07:23 AM
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2005 American League Standings
EASTWLPCTGBHOMEROADRSRASTRKL10
Boston6647.584-36-1830-29644561Won 48-2
NY Yankees6152.540535-2326-29611568Won 15-5
Toronto5955.5187.534-2525-30560489Won 36-4
Baltimore5658.49110.531-2725-31537555Won 35-5
Tampa Bay4372.3742428-2815-44533690Lost 44-6
CENTRALWLPCTGBHOMEROADRSRASTRKL10
Chicago Sox7439.655-36-2238-17542443Won 26-4
Cleveland6352.5481227-2736-25539480Won 69-1
Minnesota5856.50916.532-2626-30502475Won 14-6
Detroit5361.46521.526-3027-31520526Lost 33-7
Kansas City3876.33336.523-3515-41489668Lost 130-10
WESTWLPCTGBHOMEROADRSRASTRKL10
Oakland6648.579-37-1929-29562480Won 28-2
LA Angels6549.570134-2431-25534455Lost 25-5
Texas5658.4911031-2725-31634613Lost 43-7
Seattle4964.43416.527-2922-35488518Lost 14-6
2005 National League Standings
EASTWLPCTGBHOMEROADRSRASTRKL10
Atlanta6649.574-37-1629-33543446Lost 15-5
Philadelphia6055.522636-2524-30535530Lost 15-5
Florida5955.5186.531-2528-30522488Lost 15-5
Washington5955.5186.534-2225-33440465Lost 24-6
NY Mets5856.5097.536-2322-33522474Lost 16-4
CENTRALWLPCTGBHOMEROADRSRASTRKL10
St. Louis7342.635-37-2336-19589454Lost 17-3
Houston6252.54310.538-1624-36494439Won 25-5
Milwaukee5659.4871730-2326-36518500Lost 35-5
Chicago Cubs5560.4781828-2927-31514527Won 12-8
Cincinnati5262.45720.533-2919-33585641Won 36-4
Pittsburgh4966.4262426-3123-35487562Won 15-5
WESTWLPCTGBHOMEROADRSRASTRKL10
San Diego5856.509-32-2426-32498521Won 17-3
Arizona5561.474427-3228-29506602Won 14-6
LA Dodgers5163.447727-2924-34495554Won 14-6
San Francisco4964.4348.525-3324-31482568Won 14-6
Colorado4471.38314.530-2914-42512645Lost 16-4
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2005 American League Wild Card Standings
AMERICANWLPctGBHOMEROADRSRASTRKL10
LA Angels6549.570-34-2431-25534455Lost 25-5
Cleveland6352.5482.527-2736-25539480Won 69-1
NY Yankees6152.5403.535-2326-29611568Won 15-5
Toronto5955.518634-2525-30560489Won 36-4
Minnesota5856.509732-2626-30502475Won 14-6
Texas5658.491931-2725-31634613Lost 43-7
Baltimore5658.491931-2725-31537555Won 35-5
Detroit5361.4651226-3027-31520526Lost 33-7
Seattle4964.43415.527-2922-35488518Lost 14-6
Tampa Bay4372.37422.528-2815-44533690Lost 44-6
Kansas City3876.3332723-3515-41489668Lost 130-10
2005 National League Wild Card Standings
NATIONALWLPctGBHOMEROADRSRASTRKL10
Houston6252.543-38-1624-36494439Won 25-5
Philadelphia6055.5222.536-2524-30535530Lost 15-5
Florida5955.518331-2528-30522488Lost 15-5
Washington5955.518334-2225-33440465Lost 24-6
NY Mets5856.509436-2322-33522474Lost 16-4
Milwaukee5659.4876.530-2326-36518500Lost 35-5
Chicago Cubs5560.4787.528-2927-31514527Won 12-8
Arizona5561.474827-3228-29506602Won 14-6
Cincinnati5262.4571033-2919-33585641Won 36-4
LA Dodgers5163.4471127-2924-34495554Won 14-6
San Francisco4964.43412.525-3324-31482568Won 14-6
Pittsburgh4966.42613.526-3123-35487562Won 15-5
Colorado4471.38318.530-2914-42512645Lost 16-4
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should be another good pitcher's duel in the Bronx.
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Soap opera gets stranger by the*day

By Barry Rozner
Daily Herald Sports Columnist
Posted Friday, August 12, 2005

Another day, another dust-up.

Unless the Cubs start bailing water, the rest of the season will be devoted to the Daily Dusty, a game of chicken with Cubs manager Dusty Baker seemingly trying to get fired, while Cubs management denies the possibility, praises him and perhaps hopes he will walk away on his own.

It’s possible neither will happen and Baker will be forced — albeit at $4 million — to manage the Cubs in 2006.

In the meantime, Baker is making strange comments almost every day that send management spinning into damage control.

Early Thursday, before the Cubs pounded St. Louis at Wrigley Field to end an eight-game losing streak, Baker dragged Greg Maddux into the muck, volunteering that Maddux might walk away after this season even though he has $9 million coming in 2006 as soon as he throws another 30¿ innings this season.

“This guy has a lot of pride. He’s not going to go out there and get beat around for $9 million,’’ Baker said before the game. “He’s not going to do that.’’

Maybe Baker knows something and inadvertently let the cat out of the bag. Maybe the Cubs intend to offer Maddux half that much to go home. Maybe they think he’s that frustrated.

Or, maybe not.

“He’s not thinking about retirement,’’ Baker said after the game, before contradicting himself yet again. “He wants to finish strong and then he wants to go home and think about it.’’

Maybe, but Maddux has thrown only one bad game in his last 7 starts dating to early July, and the idea of him leaving that contract on the table sure doesn’t sound like the Maddux we know.

In fact, the Maddux we know thinks he can pitch another two or three years.

“As long as I can compete, I plan to keep pitching,’’ Maddux said after improving to 9-9 with about 9 starts remaining. “I plan to come back. I want to come back.’’

Maybe Baker knows this. Maybe he knows Maddux would never walk away and was making just another series of odd remarks in hopes that it will help ease his way out the door.

On Wednesday, Baker implied that Kerry Wood could move back into the starting rotation this season, which was denied by everyone this side of the French government.

That might have been what led to an animated, on-field discussion between Wood and pitching coach Larry Rothschild, in the rain at about noon Thursday, with Wood waving his arms and Rothschild appearing to calm the $9.5 million middle reliever.

As for Baker, if he’s fired, he collects his salary in 2006 and gets another salary from his new team, something that would thoroughly embarrass Cubs ownership, and something GM Jim Hendry probably doesn’t want to see happen.

If Baker quits, he doesn’t get his Cubs salary, and Hendry probably would force the next team to give him a player or a draft choice before he allows his manager to walk.

What seems obvious is that Baker doesn’t want to be here anymore and that he’s starting to play the same game he did in San Francisco, where he put the blame for his departure on ownership, while getting sympathy from a fawning media and fan base.

It’s not working here, but Baker is resorting to many of the same tactics, making himself the victim of second-guessers and cheap shots, instead of a manager responsible for a team lacking fire, fundamentals and fan support.

The Giants called his bluff and let him walk, but the Cubs still have him for a year and don’t appear in any hurry to extend him beyond 2006.

Lame-duck managers rarely succeed and Baker probably won’t, especially if forced to field younger players next season, but to his credit Baker has said he doesn’t mind working on a one-year deal, and that he has done it many times before.

That’s good, because unless someone blinks, it sure looks like that’s going to be the case again.
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should be another good pitcher's duel in the Bronx.
And the Cubs should have another great day of batting practice in Wrigley if Jason Marquis continues to think he is Nolan Ryan.
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"Great hustle" or dirty play?

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You mean to tell me he's not Nolan Ryan?
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And the Cubs should have another great day of batting practice in Wrigley if Jason Marquis continues to think he is Nolan Ryan.
haha, you overestimate the Cubs, struggling pitcher = Cy Young to the Cubs. He's technically losing (by 1 with the tieing run on), but that's because Carlos owns the Cards.
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haha, you overestimate the Cubs, struggling pitcher = Cy Young to the Cubs. He's technically losing (by 1 with the tieing run on), but that's because Carlos owns the Cards.

Looks like Carlos may be hurt.
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I may have to quit watching WGN simply because of the gawd awful Aqua Velvet commercial.
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Looks like Carlos may be hurt.
He left his last start with back problems, still had 6 shut out innings. 3 starts against the Cards this year, 2 ER both solo HRs - below 1 ERA!!!
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Kerry Wood with his first career hold, while showing 'J-Rod' a big league slider
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LaRussa is such a cockbag, his team is down by 4 bottom of the 8th, 2 outs. Nomar pinch-hitting for the pitcher, brings in Tavarez, He drills him in the back, brings in Ray King.
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LaRussa is such a cockbag, his team is down by 4 bottom of the 8th, 2 outs. Nomar pinch-hitting for the pitcher, brings in Tavarez, He drills him in the back, brings in Ray King.
Whatever - LaRussa isn't a cheap piece of shit like Dusty.

You haven't heard him the last few years railing against the beaning/head-hunting?

LaRussa probably pulled Tavarez because he drilled Nomar.
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Anybody who hits Nomar is a cockbag!
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I would just like to see the Cardinals show some semblance of life against the Cubs this year - just because you have a huge lead and half of your starting line-up is in the infirmary doesn't mean you can coast.
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What the hell is a cockbag!?!?!?!?


Actually......errrr......nevermind. I don't wanna know.
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LaRussa isn't a cheap piece of shit like Dusty.
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Arizona might lose the #1 overall pick because he may choose to go to a JC instead. Dunno how serious he is or if it is just a negotiation ploy.
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Arizona might lose the #1 overall pick because he may choose to go to a JC instead. Dunno how serious he is or if it is just a negotiation ploy.
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Here's the ESPN article
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2132740

Justin Upton, the first player chosen in the June baseball draft, might be about to make history -- but not on a baseball field.

Upton is threatening to head for junior college this month instead of signing with the Arizona Diamondbacks.

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Justin Upton is apparently looking for nearly $1 million more than what the Diamondbacks have offered.

No overall No. 1 pick has gone unsigned since Tim Belcher in 1983 (by Minnesota). But the buzz around baseball over the last few days is that Upton has made plans to enroll in Louisburg (N.C.) Junior College in two weeks if he and the Diamondbacks can't negotiate a deal.

Unlike draft picks who go to four-year colleges, Upton would not totally close the door on signing with Arizona by starting school. Because he's attending junior college, the Diamondbacks would retain his rights until just before next June's draft.

But Arizona scouting director Mike Rizzo said the team still regards the start of classes on Aug. 30 as "a deadline to be taken seriously -- because once he goes to school, we'll only have a one-week window [after the 2006 junior-college season] before the '06 draft to get something done.

"He's already wasted a half-year of development time. So at least if he signs [this month], he'd be looking at getting some time this fall in the Instructional League or the Arizona Fall League. But if it gets prolonged out, then we've lost that window, too. So from a developmental timetable, this definitely concerns us."

Larry Reynolds, who is advising Upton and his family, said Friday that his "advice to the family has been to accept a deal that is consistent with the highest-paid players in the draft, because of his talent and the fact that he was the No. overall draft pick."

Reynolds refused to discuss Upton's contract demands. However, indications are that Upton is looking for a package larger than the $5.5 million (over four years) the Diamondbacks guaranteed last year's No. 1 pick, Stephen Drew.

The difference between Upton and Drew, though, is that Drew was signed as a 22-year-old coming out of college and was given a major-league contract, which allows the guaranteed money to be spread over several years.

Upton was drafted as a 17-year-old high school player. So Arizona has balked at offering him a major-league contract, which means his guarantee would have to be paid out as a straight signing bonus.

Rizzo also declined to comment on details of the negotiations. But it's believed that the Diamondbacks have offered Upton a signing bonus close to $4.7 million, which would be about $700,000 more than Drew's signing bonus -- and about $100,000 more than Upton's brother, B.J., received when Tampa Bay made him the second overall pick in the 2002 draft.

The highest signing bonus in history, in a non-major-league deal, was the $5.3 million bonus given by the White Sox to Joe Borchard in 2000. But Borchard was a quarterback at Stanford who used his NFL opportunities for negotiating leverage.

So Rizzo said the Diamondbacks "feel like we've acted in good faith by putting a very fair offer on the table for a player we like very much."

However, the player it appears Upton is comparing himself to is the No. 1 pick in the 2003 draft, Delmon Young. Like Upton, Young was drafted out of high school, and Tampa Bay gave him a package worth $5.8 million -- about $1 million more than Arizona is offering Upton. But unlike Upton, Young's offer was part of a major-league deal.

"We understand the value of this player," Rizzo went on. "He's a very talented individual who we want to make into a core player for the Diamondbacks for years to come. So we're keeping the lines of communication open, and we're trying to think of everything we can do to satisfy the player and his family."

But it appears that the Upton family has dug in hard. So this has all the makings of yet another long, painful, post-draft negotiation marathon -- for a team that only finished surviving its last one (with Drew) three months ago.

They'll probably sign him at the deadline or close to it.
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I hope the White Sox pound that lardass who didn't even pretend to try when he was on their team.
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egads, Sosa is shit tonight.
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Capt Tek ties it up.
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