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Old 08-01-05, 01:08 PM
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I blame the media for misquoting Palmeiro when he testified before Congress.
Originally Posted by Rafael Palmeiro Burgundy
"I have never intentionally used steroids. Question mark?"
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Old 08-01-05, 01:11 PM
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The even bigger news is that Canseco was right.

As people have stated, there goes his chances for the Hall of Fame.
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Old 08-01-05, 01:11 PM
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Damn..... Jose could have won the case....
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Old 08-01-05, 01:15 PM
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It amazes me that anyone would take steroids now, after everything that went down with the Congressional hearing.

You have to be colossally stupid to try to get away with it these days.
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Old 08-01-05, 01:23 PM
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Old 08-01-05, 01:26 PM
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Oh to elaborate on the potential of perjury charges, we don't know when this test was administered. My guess is that it was not that recent. This went to arbitration, so that leads me to believe that the infraction had to take place at least a month ago (maybe 2-3 months ago). Then how long do steroids remain in your system?
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Old 08-01-05, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
Oh to elaborate on the potential of perjury charges, we don't know when this test was administered. My guess is that it was not that recent. This went to arbitration, so that leads me to believe that the infraction had to take place at least a month ago (maybe 2-3 months ago). Then how long do steroids remain in your system?
While I deal with drug testing people quite frequently, we never test for these. I had to look it up.

Usually anywhere from a few weeks for orally ingested steroids, to a few months for injected steroids.

[Edit]Now I'm reading it depends on the steroids. There are some that can stay in your system for up to a year to eighteen months and still be detected by tests.

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Old 08-01-05, 01:34 PM
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Rafael just released a statement:

"Opps... that was steriods??"
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Old 08-01-05, 01:38 PM
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I can't believe that some people out there think he should still be allowed to be in the Hall of Fame. All of these cheaters should be banned and their stats should NOT be counted for shit.
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Old 08-01-05, 01:39 PM
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Does any team look more pathetic than the Orioles these days? They keep losing, the whole AJ Burnett and Phil Nevin debacles, and now this. Go O's!
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Old 08-01-05, 01:44 PM
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Wow... from first to worst.... O's has an omen
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Old 08-01-05, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jericho
Does any team look more pathetic than the Orioles these days? They keep losing, the whole AJ Burnett and Phil Nevin debacles, and now this. Go O's!

The fact is that they had no chance to begin with because their relatively low payroll (compared to NY and BOS). The first 3 months were a mirage.
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Old 08-01-05, 01:47 PM
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That's too bad.
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Old 08-01-05, 01:58 PM
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Here is his statement ...

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The best part is that he warns all to be cautious in what anyone puts into their boy. Uh...everyone knew that for years now and it was pointed out that all atheletes should go to their team doc's to see if anything was a potential red flag. This excuse does not hold water anymore since this has happened before and used.
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Raffy has more to worry about than a 10-game suspension. One word: perjury.

doesnt bother me

although, when i read the report that a star on baltimore's team.. i gotta say, i was really hoping it was corky

well.. palmeiro's HOF lock just got quite a bit weaker

Im shocked that he was dumb enough to get caught.. You would think that players would have either gotten off the juice, or be smart enough to keep from getting caught now.
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Old 08-01-05, 02:09 PM
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Here is the statement

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Thank you very much for joining me on this call today. I am saddened that we are here to address this issue, but because of the importance of it, I feel the need to make a brief statement and address your questions. At the outset, let me say that under the rules of the basic agreement and the order of the independent arbitrator, there is an order of confidentiality governing the specifics of this case. I will attempt to state as much as I can and be as forthright as possible, but there will be issues I can't address based on orders imposed on me by the basic agreement and the arbitration process.

I am here to make it very clear that I have never intentionally used steroids. Never. Ever. Period.

When I found out that I failed a test under the new drug policy, I filed a grievance and challenged the suspension on the basis that I have never intentionally taken a banned substance. Ultimately, although I never intentionally put a banned substance into my body -- the independent arbitrator ruled that I had to be suspended under the terms of the program.

I am sure you will ask how I tested positive for a banned substance. As I look back, I don't have a specific answer to give. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to explain to the arbitrator how the banned substance entered my body. The arbitrator did not find that I used a banned substance intentionally - in fact, he said he found my testimony to be compelling -- but he ruled that I could not meet the heavy burden imposed on players who test positive under the new drug policy.

I accept this punishment and want to address it publicly. I want to apologize to MLB, the Baltimore Orioles organization, my teammates, and most of all, my fans. Given my role with the No Tolerance Committee and my relationships with Congress, I feel the need to communicate a serious message to my fellow players and to kids everywhere. All of us have to be responsible and exercise extreme care in what we put in our body. I hope that all MLB players and kids will learn from what has happened to me. I have never intentionally used a banned substance, but I unfortunately wasn't careful enough.

I take my role as a professional athlete seriously. I love baseball and have great respect for all of the players who played before me. I have always done my best to live each day in ways that would make my family proud. Everything I have accomplished is the result of hard work and dedication to being the best possible player I can be.

I feel terrible that this has happened, but I think there is something to be gained from it. If my situation results in the education of current and future players about the dangers of taking anything without a prescription from a licensed physician -- that is a positive. At the end of the day, it is important for all players to understand the risk of contamination and to be very careful about what they put in their body.

This suspension is going to be incredibly difficult for me, my wife and my 2 boys. Over the next week and a half, I am going to spend time with my family. I am going to come back and will be as determined as ever to help the Orioles win this pennant race that we are in. We have worked very hard to be in a position to bring our fans a title, and I will not let this be a distraction.

Finally, I would like to thank Commissioner Selig and Mr. Angelos for their strong words of encouragement. I had the opportunity to speak with both of them and I am extremely appreciative of their support and friendship.
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In a related topic, Sidney Ponson tested positive for baby back ribs.
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Originally Posted by cleaver
In a related topic, Sidney Ponson tested positive for baby back ribs.

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Originally Posted by cleaver
In a related topic, Sidney Ponson tested positive for baby back ribs.
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Old 08-01-05, 02:21 PM
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btw...
good to see that real players are being busted
maybe this will reduce some of the talk about how only low profile players get caught
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Originally Posted by cleaver
In a related topic, Sidney Ponson tested positive for baby back ribs.



I picture him getting the Flintstone's size portion.
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Old 08-01-05, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Flashback

The best part is that he warns all to be cautious in what anyone puts into their boy.

maybe that's what the Viagra has been for
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Old 08-01-05, 02:22 PM
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So would you guys now vote him into the HoF if you could?
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Old 08-01-05, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BrentLumkin
So would you guys now vote him into the HoF if you could?
yep

but i also have assumed that the majority of mlb has been using steroids for several decades now.. palmeiro was just dumb enough to get caught.
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Old 08-01-05, 02:32 PM
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that's a bunch of bullshit.

Anyone hear what Sandberg said yesterday during his induction speech?

"A lot of people say this honor validates my career,'' said Sandberg, who was headed to college to play football until he was picked on the 20th round of the 1978 amateur draft by the Philadelphia Phillies. ``But I didn't work hard for validation. I didn't play the game right because I saw a reward at the end of the tunnel. I played it right because that's what you're supposed to do -- play it right and with respect. Turning two is more important than knowing where to find the little red light on the dugout camera.''
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