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Old 06-27-05, 03:59 PM
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Oh, and I also think DiMaggio's shold DEFINATELY be on there...

And I can see Rice's record break.
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Old 06-27-05, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bose Pro

NFL - Jim Marshall played 282 consecutive games in 1960-1979 (OMG 20 seasons, no miss)

How many does Favre have?
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Old 06-27-05, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NCMojo
As for 100 points in a basketball game: Shaq had a good article on it -- http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nba/s...meout-shaq.htm

But if David freakin' Robinson can score 71... c'mon, surely someone, someday, can score 100 again.
Sure, but not even Jordan scored that many points in a game. And when you think about it, 71 still isn't even close at all. The 29 point difference is only the average that star players today put up.

Of course, if Kobe Bryant scored 70 he'd just be called selfish
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Old 06-27-05, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by fumanstan
Of course, if Kobe Bryant scored 70 he'd just be called selfish
thats a label you earn over time
not in one game
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Old 06-27-05, 04:35 PM
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I'd pick the 49-0 Heavyweight record as the most breakable. Boxing is such a farce with the alphabet soup of titles and corrupt promoters running everything. It's just a matter of a promoter wanting to do it -- take a decent boxer, get him one of the many titles, and feed him cupcakes until he retires. Not too long ago Brian "The Danish Pastry" Nielsen came within a couple wins of breaking this, and he never fought anybody decent at that point.

It's true that changes in the nature of games makes records that used to seem unbreakable suddenly normal. In the 70s and 80s, 35-40 home runs would typically lead the league. 50 was astounding. 60 was inconceivable. Cy Youngs 511 wins looks to be untouchable (and those shutout and CG records are even more out of touch) -- don't see baseball moving away from the 5-man rotation and specialty relievers anytime soon. In an NBA where teams rarely score 100, Wilt's record looks godlike. But that I can see changing -- fans like offense more than defense. It'll take a competitive game (like Wilt's) -- opposing teams getting blown out wouldn't stand for an intentional run at 100. Anyone remember when the Denver Nuggets tried a run-and-gun experiment for a season, with frequent games like 150-140? I can see 100 falling in a situation like that.

Cobb's record looks pretty safe. Other posters bring up Pujols and Helton. As great as they've been, for every season in the 330s, they need a full season at 400 to average out to Cobbs level. I don't see it happening. Dimagio's record belongs in the list. It's one of the few records everyone knows about, but no one has been able to get close.
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Old 06-27-05, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Bose Pro
NBA - Wilt averaged 50.4 ppg in '61/62
This to me is the most incredible, unbreakable record of all time. Anyone can have a good game, but to average 50 points???

Of course, Wilt had another record that most of us would consider unbreakable...

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Old 06-27-05, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by NCMojo
Of course, Wilt had another record that most of us would consider unbreakable...

of course.. this record was undocumented
so anyone can *claim* to have broke it
heck, i bet there are some women in the industry that have gotten close
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Old 06-27-05, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Lateralus
Gretsky will fall first, Lemieux had 199 in 1988 and others will come close as well.
Unless the NHL changes the rules to facilitate scoring, I don't foresee this record falling anytime soon in its current condition.
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Old 06-27-05, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Bose Pro
Ripken's run is "probably" number 1 for me. In today's sports, money talks. Teams sit players just to avoid injury. To play that many consecutive games is nearly impossible.

Same logic as Wilt's 100 point game. That would be 2nd for me. Shaq on his birthday 3 or 4 years ago had 61...I think at mid 3rd quarter. It was a complete blowout and he sat. Why let him continue to play and "risk" injury? Not worth it for any team.

Talking about consistancy, try these on:

MLB - Carl Owen Hubbell with 26 consecutive pitching wins in 1936-37 (reachable)

MLB - Orel Hershiser's 59 consecutive shutout innings

NFL - Jim Marshall played 282 consecutive games in 1960-1979 (OMG 20 seasons, no miss)

NBA - Wilt averaged 50.4 ppg in '61/62

NBA - 33 consecutive wins by the Lakers
I think there will be a pitcher one day who will break Orel's record, considering the amount of intradivision games and weak divisions there are today.
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Old 06-27-05, 05:21 PM
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I don't see anybody breaking "Hack" Wilson's 191 RBI mark anytime soon.
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Old 06-27-05, 05:38 PM
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Another:

Nolan Ryans total strikeouts.

5714 Ouch...a pitcher would need to average 285 strike outs per season for 20 years to hit this....Steve Carlton is closest...at 3544.

This goes along with Cy's total wins...a pitcher would need to average 25.5 wins a season for 20 years to hit this.

Even Pete's hit record comes into play. Ichiro might...well if they add his Japanese and MLB...but another player like him could I guess. I mean I never thought someone could hit 262 times in a season! Holy SNIKIES Batman!
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Old 06-27-05, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SuprVgeta
I don't see anybody breaking "Hack" Wilson's 191 RBI mark anytime soon.
This is a hard one to achieve but doable. Manny got 165 in 1999 and Sosa got 160 in 2001.
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Old 06-27-05, 05:40 PM
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Yeah the Gretzky record will never be broken unless there are drastic rule changes like those bigger nets..not sure that would be enough. It would be like an NBA player averaging 65 points per game.
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Old 06-27-05, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bose Pro
Another:

Nolan Ryans total strikeouts.

5714 Ouch...a pitcher would need to average 285 strike outs per season for 20 years to hit this....Steve Carlton is closest...at 3544.


Carlton has 4,136 and Roger Clemens has 4,414. Carlton doesn't even have the most for a lefty, Randy Johnson has 4,260.

It's still a difficult record to catch, but I'm inclined to think that 7 no-hitters is the more durable one. The closest to him is 4, and I don't think anyone else even has 3. Many many Hall of Famers have only zero or 1.
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Old 06-27-05, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LorenzoL
Unless the NHL changes the rules to facilitate scoring, I don't foresee this record falling anytime soon in its current condition.
You must've missed the change in goalie padding. Going from 12" to 11", I think. Also there will be no more ties with shootouts becoming the norm. Seems as though it certainly has changed.

I think the Cy Young wins record won't ever be touched. I mean 511 wins ridiculously absurd for a career, nobody can even touch that.
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Old 06-27-05, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LurkerDan


Carlton has 4,136 and Roger Clemens has 4,414. Carlton doesn't even have the most for a lefty, Randy Johnson has 4,260.

It's still a difficult record to catch, but I'm inclined to think that 7 no-hitters is the more durable one. The closest to him is 4, and I don't think anyone else even has 3. Many many Hall of Famers have only zero or 1.
DOH!!! My bad! Just saw that...sorry.

Nice catch...

Hmm, 5 seasons for Clemens at 260 SO's...possible.
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Old 06-27-05, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisih8u
How many does Favre have?
208 counting playoffs.

Favre could match Marshall by playing as few as five more years. It would be astonishing for a QB to hold that record.

If you go by consecutive games started, by September he will be fourth on the list for players at any position, let alone QB, and should be behind only Jim Marshall by the end of next season.

Perhaps more amazingly Favre nearly reached Johnny Unitas' 47 consecutive games with a TD pass mark. Many consider this record streak to be the most unreachable.
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Old 06-27-05, 08:40 PM
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Darryl Sittler - 10 points in one game (6 goals, 4 assists).

Toronto scored 11 goals that evening, and Sittler was in on all but one goal.

As incredible as this was, I always thought that it would be broken while Gretzky and Lemuiex were in their prime... but it never happened.

It was close to being broken though... Sundstrom, Lemeiux, Peter and Anton Stastny (8 points), and Gretzky (7 points) three times.
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Old 06-27-05, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Deftones
You must've missed the change in goalie padding. Going from 12" to 11", I think. Also there will be no more ties with shootouts becoming the norm. Seems as though it certainly has changed.
Those "proposed" changes have not been implemented.

They had a GM meeting last month to propose rules changes for the NHL, with one being the padding on goalies however because of the lockout, no decision was made.
Shootouts will not be implemented in the NHL when it come back from the lockout. Maybe later but not now.
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Old 06-28-05, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Bose Pro
This is a hard one to achieve but doable. Manny got 165 in 1999 and Sosa got 160 in 2001.
and wasn't there someone who was on pace to break it well into August, but dropped off the last month of the season? This was in the last 15 years or so. I can't remember the name.

and for me, the most unbreakable one is Cy Youngs wins. Its IMPOSSIBLE for someone to break that. 20 years with 25.5 wins a season. There's no way. how man pitchers have won 25 games in a season the last 10 years. Not very many.

2nd is 100 pts in a game by Stilt. NBA teams can barely score 100 themselves.

I don't get why everyone thinks DiMaggio's record is so unattainable. I fully expect to see that broken in my lifetime.

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Old 06-28-05, 10:48 AM
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to me, the "unattainable" ones are the ones that require a drastic change in the game itself for that record to be touched, ie something was so different about the game when that record was set that mere greatness combined with luck won't do it.

Thus, Cy Young's fits, there simply is no way this gets broken unless some dramatic change happens in the game, the way it is played, the number of games per season, etc. DiMaggio's hit streak, however amazing it is, can be attained by greatness and incredible luck, it doesn't require any rules changes.
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Old 06-28-05, 11:39 AM
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DiMaggio's hit streak, however amazing it is, can be attained by greatness and incredible luck, it doesn't require any rules changes.
Hell, you don't even have to be that great. Many people get 56 hits in a season. While improbable, it's not unthinkable that by fortune alone someone could string them together in consecutive games (discounting the media pressure it would generate). DiMaggio hit over .400 during his run and slugged over .700, but someone could do it just hitting (and slugging) around .225. It would be nowhere near as impressive, but it would be record-breaking.

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Old 06-28-05, 12:30 PM
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I can see Cobb's record falling. If someone does it I think it would be Pujols. He's currentsly batting .333 and is just getting better. Like someone mentioned earlier thats just a few more hits per 1000 AB's.
Not a chance. To put that in perspective with Pujols' numbers, his current career stats are:

2654 AB... 885 Hits... .333 AVG

For simplicity, if he got exactly 600 ABs for the next 15 years, and got 225 hits ( ) every year, his average would end up at .3655. (Which would mean he'd bat .375 for the rest of his career)
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Old 06-28-05, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Lateralus
Gretsky will fall first, Lemieux had 199 in 1988 and others will come close as well.
Gretzky and Lemieux are very much alone at the top of that list....no one will ever score like they did again....not the way hockey is played now. scoring leaders today barely break 100 pts.

2003-04 Martin St. Louis 94
2002-03 Peter Forsberg 106
2001-02Jarome Iginla 96
2000-01 Jaromir Jagr 121
1999-00 Jaromir Jagr 96
1998-99 Jaromir Jagr 127
1997-98 Jaromir Jagr 102
1996-97 Mario Lemieux 122
1995-96 Mario Lemieux 161
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Old 06-28-05, 01:13 PM
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Wilt's record is unbreakable. Hell, there are whole teams that couldn't score 100 in a game if you gave them 5 quarters to do so. Plus, players today are much more evenly matched. Wilt was a freak back then and could do anything he wanted. That type of uneven talent will never happen again.
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