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What is David Stern going to do to Jeff Van Gundy?

Old 05-05-05, 03:22 PM
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What is David Stern going to do to Jeff Van Gundy?

The commish has already fined him 100k, but in an interview at Game 5 between the Rockets and Mavs he said it was just the beginning. Any thoughts?

Personally, I think the 100k is a big enough fine for him, but I still think its pretty harsh. Heaven forbid anyone publically bad mouthing the NBA.
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Originally Posted by Aphex Twin
Damn that was a quick response. I just clicked Submit post and I end up seeing the Gimp's toys!
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Hopefully the fine is enough. It's way too much actually.

Stern is an Asshat.
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What did he do?
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Short term suspension will probably happen. However, personally i don't believe anything beyond the fine is necessary.
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I don't think he should do anything else, but it wouldn't surprise me if he is suspended for the first 5-10 games of next season the way Stern is
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Originally Posted by chrisih8u
What did he do?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...arc&id=2053877
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Thanks. Pretty interesting.
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I thought Stern already threatened to suspend him for a year if he didn't give up his source?

I still fail to see what Stern is so upset about. It's not like the source told Van Gundy they're fixing games, it's that they're responding to a complaint. They do it all the time, which is why the players complain to the refs in the first place. "Hey, this guys pushing off all the time," so they take a closer look.

Add that to the fact that the officiating has been horrible, most notably the Rockets/Mavs game after this whole thing came to light.

Besides, we all know that if Stern had his way, Cuban's Mavs would be out and McGrady and Yao would advance. And somehow the Lakers would be in the playoffs instead of the Grizzlies.
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Stern will blow up his new Honda Civic.
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Originally Posted by fujishig
I still fail to see what Stern is so upset about. It's not like the source told Van Gundy they're fixing games, it's that they're responding to a complaint. They do it all the time, which is why the players complain to the refs in the first place. "Hey, this guys pushing off all the time," so they take a closer look.
Really? You don't get it? This isn't a player asking for a ref to pay attention, this is (supposedly) a ref a) admitting to pressure from an owner and b) admitting that one particular player will be scrutinized differently.

It isn't fixing games, but it is an allegation that if true damages the integrity of the game.
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But they do scrutinize players differently. Whether consciously or not, they give more leeway to star players. It's not a conspiracy theory, that's what happens. Now, I doubt there's a league-wide memo out there or something, but otherwise, why do the players complain so much?

You're telling me that if I as a coach tell the media that, say, Yao Ming is violating the 3-second in the key call on most possessions, that the refs aren't going to pay more attention to it? Because if they don't, I guarantee the media will scrutinize every time Yao is in the key, and they'll get blasted when they miss the call. It happens all the time (or at least, it seems to).
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refs usually give rookies more fouls than veteran superstars all the time. you usually hear commentators talk about that all the time.
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Stern is way too harsh about this. He keeps bringing up the crap about the integrity of the game. Van Gundy only spoke what was on everyone's minds. Houston fans have really gotten behind JVG on this. If you read the papers or listen to sports talk radio over here, he is getting much love from the fans.
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I think Van Gundy was right when he asked, "Is this the worst thing a coach has ever done in the history of the NBA?"

This is overkill. Don't shoot the errand boy, go fix the problems.
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I stand to what van gundy said.

The refs are doing a pathetic job.

If anyone saw the Bulls/Wizards games you can see what van gundy is talking about.
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Originally Posted by kar10
If anyone saw the Bulls/Wizards games you can see what van gundy is talking about.
just the ones the bulls lost.. or all of them?
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Short term suspension unless Van Gundy doesn't give up his informant then it could possibly be a heavier fine, long term suspension or termination. This isn't a court so conceling the informants name does not weigh as much. Of course if Van Gundy wants to save his informant he could just say that he made the whole thing up or misunderstood what his informant was really saying.
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Old 05-10-05, 12:29 AM
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2056599

Looks like the fine was enough. Good news for Van Gundy!
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Looks like the last line in my post came true, but I wonder if Houston will be foolish enough to fire Van Gundy.
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Originally Posted by POWERBOMB
Looks like the last line in my post came true, but I wonder if Houston will be foolish enough to fire Van Gundy.
I wonder if his team is going to get any calls, with the refs still mad at him... it's almost a good thing that they didn't advance...
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Old 05-12-05, 03:27 PM
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I don't know why the refs are mad at him, ref's are always biased. They're human, so of course they're going to be one-sided at some point. Take last night's Phoenix-Mavs game for example. Joe Johnson hits the floor hard after Stackhouse fouls him, but a few minutes later the refs called it a flagrant foul. Why? Just because JJ hit the ground hard. Stackhouse was obviously going for the ball (and actually blocked it) and not his head. He didn't throw him to the ground or anything.
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I think the refs have to make the call they see. Sometimes if it weren't for instant replay I'd make even more bad calls than the refs.
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