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Old 04-05-05, 11:25 AM
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I don't know how to make everything all fancy, but no one started a thread today, so .



1:05 pm Boston @ N.Y. Yankees Matt Clement vs. Carl Pavano

4:05 pm Atlanta @ Florida (TBS) John Smoltz vs. Josh Beckett

4:15 pm L.A. Dodgers @ San Francisco Derek Lowe vs. Jason Schmidt

7:05 pm St. Louis @ Houston Chris Carpenter vs. Roy Oswalt

7:15 pm Toronto @ Tampa Bay Gustavo Chacin vs. Scott Kazmir

9:40 pm Chi. Cubs @ Arizona Greg Maddux vs. Russ Ortiz

10:05 pm Texas @ L.A. Angels Ryan Drese vs. Bartolo Colon

10:05 pm Minnesota @ Seattle Johan Santana vs. Gil Meche


XM Radio Schedule

Twins @ Mariners 10:05PM ET XM 181
Rangers @ Angels 10:05PM ET XM 182
Red Sox @ Yankees 1:05PM ET XM 176
Braves @ Marlins 4:05PM ET XM 184
Dodgers @ Giants 4:05PM ET XM 189
Cardinals @ Astros 7:05PM ET XM 186
Blue Jays @ Devil Rays 7:15PM ET XM 178
Cubs @ Diamondbacks 9:40PM ET XM 188


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Boston Red Sox at New York Yankees 1:00 pm TBA
Atlanta Braves at Florida Marlins 4:00 pm TBA
Los Angeles Dodgers at San Francisco Giants 4:00 pm 736
St. Louis Cardinals at Houston Astros 7:00 pm 737
Chicago Cubs at Arizona Diamondbacks 9:30 pm TBA
Texas Rangers at Los Angeles Angels 10:00 pm TBA
Minnesota Twins at Seattle Mariners 10:00 pm 738
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Old 04-05-05, 11:29 AM
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It will be interesting to see how Clement and Pavano react to the pressure of pitching for these two teams.
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Old 04-05-05, 11:35 AM
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Ok. The Dbacks have owned Greg Maddux in his career. Let's continue that trend today.
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Old 04-05-05, 11:37 AM
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I hope the Cubs don't get shut out today
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Old 04-05-05, 11:39 AM
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Great article on A-Rod's knack for pissing off teammates and opponents alike:

Lightning Rod: Rodriguez has talent for ticking off peers

By Ken Rosenthal - SportingNews

Alex Rodriguez scores on Hideki Matsui's bases-loaded double, and Gary Sheffield follows him down the third base line, ready to give the Yankees a 5-0 lead in Game 1 of the American League Championship Series.

"Run him over! Run him over!" Rodriguez yells at Sheffield, imploring him to barrel through Red Sox catcher Jason Varitek.

Sheffield scores, and Varitek turns to Rodriguez. "You would never do it," Varitek replies sneeringly.


The incident reveals two Rodriguez traits that infuriate opponents -- his irritating rah-rah act and his perceived pretty-boy approach. Then there's the biggest reason Rodriguez is openly disparaged by his peers: Many view him as a phony whose polished media act is anything but sincere.

The focus on Rodriguez is as intense as ever as he enters his second season with the Yankees, one year after The Trade. His adjustment period over, he needs to reclaim his status as the best player in the game to satisfy the rising expectations of Yankees owner George Steinbrenner.

Denigrated by several Red Sox players early in spring training, Rodriguez has become the central figure in the biggest rivalry in U.S. sports. And with the Yankees playing the Red Sox in six of their first nine games, he's facing another opportunity to solidify his reputation in pinstripes.

At a time when some of the game's biggest stars are under scrutiny for their possible use of performance-enhancing drugs, criticism of Rodriguez's personality seems almost trivial. Yet even though Rodriguez maintains a squeaky-clean image, the attention he is drawing for peripheral issues threatens the appreciation of his Hall of Fame talent.

Rodriguez, who will turn 30 on July 27, dismisses such talk. He says he has received ample praise throughout his career, adding that disapproval from the Red Sox and others "doesn't matter." But his agent, Scott Boras, acknowledges that Rodriguez was eager to please during his first season with the Yankees, giving credence to the impression that Rodriguez, at times, was less than genuine.

"When you come to New York and you're there with an established team, playing with people you respect, it's like walking into someone else's home," Boras says. "You're going to be on your best behavior. You're not there to put your feet up on a chair and be yourself. You're there to learn the landscape of the home. Then, when the mortgage comes and the house is yours, you know more about who the person is."

The question is whether that day ever will come. Yankee Stadium, The House that Ruth Built, now is The House of Derek Jeter. Rodriguez is a superior defensive shortstop, but he moved to third base upon joining the Yankees to allow Jeter to remain at short. Jeter, the Yankees' captain, is a four-time World Series champion. Rodriguez, playing for his third team, hasn't been in a World Series.

The difference in how they are perceived is illustrated by the plays that defined them in 2004 -- Jeter's startling dive into the stands to catch a foul ball in a July 1 game against the Red Sox and Rodriguez's desperate attempt to slap the ball out of Sox pitcher Bronson Arroyo's glove in Game 6 of the ALCS.

"People in the media and fans don't get the look that we get on the field," says Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling, perhaps Rodriguez's most outspoken critic. "There are things he's done and said that I've heard -- I've seen -- that I have a huge problem with, and I think other guys do, too."

Judging from the views of former teammates, opposing players and rival executives interviewed for this story, Schilling appears to be right. When asked about Rodriguez, players often roll their eyes in silent disapproval.

During Rodriguez's tenure with the Rangers, he occasionally would make like a Little League coach, shouting basic instructions at his younger teammates. "Get a secondary lead!" he would yell to a runner on first. "Get a secondary lead!" After Rodriguez left the team, one prominent American League veteran asked a younger Ranger with a chuckle, "How are you even able to play without A-Rod telling you what to do?"
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That same veteran speaks disdainfully about the way Rodriguez and Jeter race each other to the top step of the dugout to congratulate teammates and celebrate important plays. He makes Rodriguez sound like a know-it-all valedictorian, observing sarcastically, "He's trying to be the perfect player." And yet, like every other player, he holds Rodriguez's game in the highest esteem. In comparing Rodriguez and Jeter, the veteran says A-Rod is "10 times better."

Rodriguez grew up idolizing Cal Ripken, hanging a poster of the Orioles great on his bedroom wall. Ripken, 6-4 and 225 pounds, proved to Rodriguez and other tall, strapping youngsters that they could play shortstop. Rodriguez still patterns himself after Ripken, mimicking several of his on-field mannerisms, not to mention his off-field diplomacy.

But Rodriguez hasn't yet engendered the universal admiration Ripken received throughout his career.

Jealousy almost certainly fuels part of the distaste for Rodriguez. Few thought of him as disingenuous until he bolted the Mariners in December 2000 for a record 10-year, $252 million contract with the Rangers. After three last-place finishes, Rodriguez politicked his way to the East Coast, landing with the Yankees, baseball's most storied franchise, after a trade to the Red Sox fell through.

Ripken spent his entire career with the Orioles, often taking below-market contracts to remain with his hometown team. Though he was certainly image-conscious, hardly anyone thought he took himself too seriously or accused him of being artificial and overcoached. Such are the criticisms that dog Rodriguez. At times, he gives the impression he is Boras' Frankenstein creation, a superstar hatched in a laboratory and programmed by computer.

Ripken, by contrast, seemed more grounded.

He began staying in separate hotels from the rest of his team for security reasons during his pursuit of Lou Gehrig's consecutive-games record, an idea that grew out of hand when other Orioles followed suit. Certain teammates resented him over the years, but most revered him. Though Ripken exerted far more influence on the Orioles than he would admit, he carefully avoided the appearance of putting himself above the team. He never pursued direct access with his team's owner, the way Rodriguez did with the Rangers.

If Rodriguez wants to be like Ripken, he's losing that battle to Jeter, too. Jeter is as bland as Ripken in his public remarks, rarely offering the media anything of substance.

Rodriguez, on the other hand, infuriated his peers in the offseason when he boasted about beginning his workouts at 6 a.m. He disparaged his former Rangers teammates before last season by referring to them as "24 kids." He also spoke dismissively of Jeter in a 2001 article in Esquire.

In a sense, Rodriguez is in the same no-win situation as many players who make themselves accessible to the media; Schilling, for example, routinely gets himself in trouble for being glib.

"If you say the truth, you're a jerk. If you're political, you're a phony," Rodriguez says. "You tell me -- what's the right thing to do? All I really care about is guys who have been around me for a long time, guys who go to war with me -- my teammates, my manager. Anything else is a nonissue."

That includes criticism from the Red Sox, who took turns teeing off on Rodriguez earlier this spring.

"You can't take three or four guys and say, 'Well, that's the notion of what this guy is all about,' " Rodriguez says. "You've got to go deep into former teammates, former managers and do your homework if you want to come up with what someone is all about. Former trainers. Former clubhouse kids. It just can't be whoever you choose to talk to and create a story."

Jerry Narron, Rodriguez's first manager with the Rangers, would talk baseball with Rodriguez for long periods after games. He recalls feeling sheepish when the two would emerge from the clubhouse at 1 a.m. and Rodriguez's future wife, Cynthia, would be waiting.

"I didn't see anything phony about him," says Narron, now the Reds' bench coach. "Not one thing."

Buck Showalter, the Rangers' current manager, says he would take back Rodriguez in a minute, but given the friction that developed between the two -- and the team's success after Rodriguez departed -- Showalter probably is being kind.

The Rangers do not view Rodriguez fondly. Third baseman Hank Blalock imitated Rodriguez's glove slap in mocking fashion in an early spring training baserunning drill. First baseman Mark Teixeira, without naming Rodriguez directly, joined the chorus condemning him for his comments about his 6 a.m. workouts, telling a Dallas-Fort Worth reporter, "Everybody works hard in this game."

Rangers players nicknamed Rodriguez "The Cooler" last season, a wry observation on how he cools off every team he joins. Even shortstop Michael Young, perhaps the Rangers player with whom Rodriguez was closest, admits the team chemistry improved dramatically after Rodriguez was gone.


"The pieces just didn't fit. I don't know why," Young says. "Once we kind of got the new wave in here, it played to our strengths -- being a super-aggressive team, going out every night trying to win a ballgame."

The presence of a superstar on a young team can be suffocating, even if the superstar sets as positive of an example as Rodriguez by always playing hard. As one Ranger says, "It was always Alex Rodriguez and the Texas Rangers" -- a source of discontent for a team that had several players approaching stardom. The Rangers benefited last season from the more earthy leadership of veterans such as Brian Jordan and Eric Young, who scolded their younger teammates after the club was swept in June in Cincinnati. Jordan and Young were more a part of the mix.

The Yankees are a different type of team, a collection of player-corporations who largely go their own ways. Yet, there is a certain ethic about the club, one forged by the mainstays of the championship years -- Jeter, Mariano Rivera, Joe Torre. "Do the job day to day, don't make excuses, be a blue-collar player," pitcher Mike Mussina says. "If you come in with the opposite style, it can backfire on you."

Rodriguez did not offend Yankee sensibilities, Mussina says, but the expectations for him last season were so high, "everyone already was breathing down his neck." The past tension with Jeter immediately became a point of interest, even as Rodriguez accommodated him by moving to third. The two coexist but hardly appear to be close friends.

Though the Yankees declined to respond when the Red Sox criticized Rodriguez -- in contrast to their public support of Jason Giambi, who testified to a grand jury that he used performance-enhancing drugs -- it would be mistaken to suggest that Rodriguez is isolated in the Yankees' clubhouse. Some players, in fact, find him easier to talk to than Jeter.

Yet the Yankees, by most accounts, remain Jeter's team.

"I don't view it that way," Boras says. "When you play on a team, there are additions to the house, but they're all under one roof. Certainly, Alex's wing is under construction. No question, these two great players understand that their success or failure is linked to one another. Anyone who knows baseball and looks on these next six years with the Yankees will understand that these guys are linked at the hip."

If that's the case, then perhaps Rodriguez simply should concentrate on doing what he does best, which is playing baseball. His 2004 performance -- .286 batting average, 36 home runs and 106 RBIs -- fell below his standards. He also went 2-for-15 in the final four games of the ALCS as the Yankees blew a 3-0 series lead.

Rodriguez says he is much more comfortable this season. Steinbrenner has encouraged him to be less deferential in the Yankees' clubhouse, even to Jeter. But perhaps the last thing Rodriguez needs is to become more outspoken, especially with so many questioning his sincerity. "He should let his game do the talking," one A.L. general manager says flatly.

No one could criticize him then.
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Old 04-05-05, 11:49 AM
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I wish I was in Houston today.

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Agreed! I had every intention of being there, but I won't.
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Great article MDawg. That's the first I've heard of Rangers complaining about Rodriguez other than the "kids" comment he made. Very interesting stuff.
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I still say Arod looks like he was giving a Smurf a blowjob...
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Originally Posted by welb25
It will be interesting to see how Clement and Pavano react to the pressure of pitching for these two teams.

Hopefully Clement gets better run support from the Sox than he did from the Cubs.
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Old 04-05-05, 12:19 PM
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Hopefully Clement gets better run support from the Sox than he did from the Cubs.
Hopefully he doesn't. Since it reflected his past success against Boomer I hope Torre has scrapped the Ruben Sierra Batting Cleanup experiment.
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I'm hoping that the Jays make it two in a row against the Devil Rays.
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Old 04-05-05, 12:54 PM
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Just broke down and signed up for MLB TV. Glad to see that NESN's feed is being used, and that the pre-game show is there (MLBEI only shows the game).
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Just signed up for mlb audio, hey need something to listen to at work.

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Old 04-05-05, 01:14 PM
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Pavano starts strong with a 1-2-3 first (2 Ks). That makes a total of 3 outs in his last two starts vs. the Sox.
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Just signed up for mlb audio, hey need something to listen to at work.

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I too just signed up for MLB Gameday Audio for the first time. $15.00 for the whole year seems like a good deal to me.
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I'm listening on XM which has the NY feed. Hearing a woman as color commentator is strange.
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Man, Clement is in some big time trouble.
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Old 04-05-05, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by welb25
I too just signed up for MLB Gameday Audio for the first time. $15.00 for the whole year seems like a good deal to me.
I might have to do that too. I'd much rather listen to the games at work than watch them. Less chance of getting into trouble.
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Old 04-05-05, 01:40 PM
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Man, Clement is in some big time trouble.
Not good at all. He might want to try throwing it over that big white thing next to the hitter. Not too much over it, though.

See, pitching's not that hard.

HUGE out there on Tino's pop-up. And Womack pops up to get him out of it. Whew!

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Wow. Got out of a jam. Nice.
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Old 04-05-05, 01:43 PM
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Nicely done by Clement..
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Old 04-05-05, 01:45 PM
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I might have to do that too. I'd much rather listen to the games at work than watch them. Less chance of getting into trouble.
Seems like a good deal to me also, enjoyed it last year. So far so good with it again.

The cast seems good, and does not pause or anything for me at least, and figure the Yankees Vs Red Sox are probably the most listened to, most bogged down games of the season. So performance should only increase I would imagine.

My only complaint is it automatically charges you for next season unless you cancel before next season. Just don't like have to remeber stuff..
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I'm listening on XM which has the NY feed. Hearing a woman as color commentator is strange.
That's just how sad I am. I could have turned on XM, but I was not interested in hearing NY's feed. So I forked over $15 per month for MLB TV. to me.
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