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Old 06-07-04, 04:20 AM
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Sunday, June 6, 2004
RESULTWINLOSSSAVEATT.
at NY Yankees 2, Texas 1Mussina (7-4)  Drese (2-3)  Rivera (23)  54,092
at Atlanta 6, Philadelphia 4Wright (4-5)  Millwood (4-4)  Smoltz (8)  27,775
at NY Mets 5, Florida 2Leiter (2-2)  Penny (6-3)   25,835
at Cincinnati 6, Montreal 5Matthews (1-0)  Biddle (0-4)   31,814
at Baltimore 5, Tampa Bay 4Lopez (5-2)  Bell (1-3)  Julio (9)  46,044
Boston 5, at Kansas City 3Lowe (5-5)  Grimsley (3-2)  Foulke (11)  22,964
at Minnesota 6, Detroit 5Romero (3-1)  Yan (0-2)  Nathan (15)  20,378
Houston 3, at St. Louis 2Oswalt (4-4)  Suppan (5-5)  Dotel (9)  40,476
at Chicago Cubs 4, Pittsburgh 1Maddux (5-4)  Vogelsong (1-6)  Hawkins (4)  39,016
San Francisco 16, at Colorado 4Hermanson (2-2)  Cook (1-1)   37,147
Cleveland 7, at Anaheim 0Sabathia (3-3)  Colon (4-4)   43,337
at Oakland 8, Toronto 3Redman (4-3)  Kershner (0-1)   24,092
at Arizona 6, Los Angeles 5Service (1-0)  Dreifort (1-1)  Valverde (5)  34,059
at San Diego 8, Milwaukee 3Eaton (2-6)  Davis (4-5)   40,348
at Seattle 5, Chicago Sox 4Hasegawa (2-3)  Koch (1-1)   36,462

Monday, June 7, 2004
TEAMSTIME (ET)NAT TVTICKETSPITCHERS
San Francisco at Colorado4:05 PM TicketsTomko at Estes
Pittsburgh at Texas8:05 PM TicketsWells at Dickey
St. Louis at Chicago Cubs8:05 PMESPN2TicketsCarpenter at Rusch
Cincinnati at Oakland10:05 PM TicketsLidle at Mulder
Houston at Seattle10:05 PM TicketsDuckworth at Nageotte

Tuesday, June 8, 2004
TEAMSTIME (ET)NAT TVTICKETSPITCHERS
Arizona at Baltimore7:05 PM TicketsJohnson at DuBose
San Diego at Boston7:05 PM TicketsGermano at Martinez
Florida at Cleveland7:05 PM TicketsWillis at Lee
Atlanta at Detroit7:05 PM TicketsHampton at Johnson
Colorado at NY Yankees7:05 PM TicketsFassero at Vazquez
Los Angeles at Toronto7:05 PM TicketsNomo at Lilly
San Francisco at Tampa Bay7:15 PM TicketsWilliams at Waechter
Philadelphia at Chicago Sox8:05 PM TicketsWolf at Buehrle
Pittsburgh at Texas8:05 PM TicketsPerez at Benoit
St. Louis at Chicago Cubs8:05 PM TicketsWilliams at Clement
Montreal at Kansas City8:10 PM TicketsArmas at Greinke
NY Mets at Minnesota8:10 PM TicketsGlavine at Radke
Milwaukee at Anaheim10:05 PM TicketsSheets at Washburn
Cincinnati at Oakland10:05 PM TicketsValentine at Zito
Houston at Seattle10:05 PM TicketsClemens at Pineiro
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NY Yankees3520.636-18-817-12304265Won 18-2
Boston3323.5892.518-915-14304261Won 24-6
Baltimore2527.4818.513-1412-13287302Won 15-5
Toronto2532.4391114-1411-18252275Lost 25-5
Tampa Bay2133.38913.514-147-19221284Lost 16-4
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Chicago Sox3024.556-17-1013-14290231Lost 25-5
Minnesota3026.536117-1213-14269283Won 14-6
Cleveland2529.463516-139-16286301Won 37-3
Detroit2531.446612-1613-15296293Lost 13-7
Kansas City2034.3701013-147-20240301Lost 25-5
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Anaheim3323.589-18-1015-13297264Lost 34-6
Oakland3124.5641.517-1014-14251233Won 26-4
Texas3024.556216-914-15285253Lost 14-6
Seattle2134.38211.512-169-18234270Won 24-6
 
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Florida3225.561-16-1216-13256241Lost 15-5
Philadelphia2926.527214-1315-13267238Lost 14-6
Atlanta2828.5003.515-1313-15257240Won 15-5
NY Mets2828.5003.515-1313-15238230Won 15-5
Montreal1837.327139-179-20163226Lost 23-7
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Cincinnati3422.607-18-1016-12264260Won 27-3
St. Louis3224.571213-1519-9283241Lost 18-2
Houston3025.5453.515-1315-12282226Won 15-5
Chicago Cubs2926.5274.516-1213-14259215Won 24-6
Milwaukee2727.500614-1213-15238251Lost 24-6
Pittsburgh2429.4538.59-1815-11234263Lost 23-7
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Los Angeles3024.556-15-1215-12239216Lost 16-4
San Diego3125.554-16-1215-13253237Won 26-4
San Francisco2828.500315-1413-14258293Won 16-4
Arizona2235.3869.512-1710-18261326Won 15-5
Colorado2134.3829.513-158-19295344Lost 13-7
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Monday June 7 

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MB01     4:00PM     San Francisco at Colorado   FSBA  
MB02     8:00PM     Pittsburgh at Texas         FSSW  
MB03     8:00PM     St. Louis at Chicago Cubs   FSMW  
MB04    10:00PM     Cincinnati at Oakland       FSBA  
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Another crappy Monday. At least Nomar comes back tomorrow.

Too bad its against David Wells, who always pitchest tough against the Red Sox.
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I read in today's newspapers that Wells was pitching tomorrow. Is that true? I just noticed that he's not listed for tomorrow.
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Maybe the Angels can use the off day to remember how to score runs and hold leads.
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time for interleague games
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Old 06-07-04, 08:08 AM
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So a few days ago, we had this brief exchange...


Originally posted by twikoff
sad state of affairs for the sport when you cant 'afford' to draft the best player in the nation, with the #1 spot

I wonder how long it will be, before the top player coming out is so expensive that none of the top 20 or so teams in the draft can get him, so he is still available for the yankees at the end

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I'll put my money on "never".

In fact, this is precisely what may happen. The Padres are apparently going to pass on Weaver, and probably on Stephen Drew too, instead going after a much less heralded high school shortstop because of signability. It seems that Weaver will free fall down the draft because none of the early drafting teams want to try to sign him with Boras as his agent.

From Peter Gammons' article:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/gammons/story?id=1816317

"The Rockies heard Jered Weaver might fall to their (ninth overall pick) but when they talked to his agents they were told he is Mark Prior and thus has to have Prior money or he'll go back to school. Our scouts think he might be a sidearming long man. So Weaver might free-fall from consideration as the top pick in the draft to somewhere in the middle or the end of the first round." -- One NL GM.
And this:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1817037

On Friday, the first round of Monday's first-year player draft was falling into place. A day later, it was falling apart as rumors swirled through the industry that the Padres were shifting their focus with the No. 1 overall pick.

San Diego appeared to have locked in on Florida State shortstop Stephen Drew earlier in the week. But now teams at the top of the draft are scrambling amid reports that the Padres don't want to accede to Drew's desire for a package similar to what Rickie Weeks received from the Brewers in 2003. The No. 2 choice a year ago, Weeks received a $3.6 million bonus and a major league contract with a guarantee of $4.79 million.

The Padres now are believed to be looking at shortstop Matt Bush from local Mission Bay High. He would come with a cheaper price tag than Drew and isn't expected to go higher than sixth (Indians) or seventh (Reds) if San Diego doesn't select him first.

If the Padres do opt for Bush, it will send a ripple effect through the first round of the draft. Teams that were narrowing down their choices suddenly will be presented with options they didn't think would be available.

The Tigers, picking second, were leaning toward Old Dominion's Justin Verlander over fellow righthanders Homer Bailey (LaGrange, Texas, High) and Jeff Niemann (Rice). But they would be very tempted by Drew.

The Mets, selecting third, had zeroed in on Rice righthander Philip Humber. But if Detroit goes with Drew, New York is expected to take Verlander over Humber.

The Devil Rays may not be affected by a San Diego shift. Their scouts prefer Redan High (Decatur, Ga.) shortstop Chris Nelson, while ownership and manager Lou Piniella are clamoring for a college pitcher who could help the big league club in short order. Their top two pitching choices are Rice righthanders Niemann and Wade Townsend.

At No. 5, the Brewers had been closing in on another righty, Mark Rogers (Mount Ararat High, Orr's Island, Maine). But if the Mets pass on Humber, Milwaukee is expected to snap him up.

Several teams still are hoping for one more look at Niemann, who hasn't been 100 percent this year while coming back from offseason arthroscopic elbow surgery and battling a persistent groin injury. Niemann threw 86-87 mph last weekend against Louisiana Tech, and while there are no long-term concerns about his elbow or groin, it still was disconcerting to clubs choosing at the top of the draft.

Rice, which suffered the biggest one-game upset in NCAA playoff history when Texas Southern beat Humber Friday night, used Niemann to get the last four outs of a Saturday must-win over Lamar. The Owls must defeat Texas A&M twice today to advance to the super-regionals, and Niemann should get a start, especially if Rice stays alive for two games.

Long Beach State righthander Jered Weaver, at one point believed to be the favorite to go No. 1 overall, may fall dramatically because of signability. Weaver, who like Drew will be advised by Scott Boras, reportedly wants a package similar to the $10.5 million package Mark Prior got from the Cubs as the No. 2 selection in 2001.

Weaver continued his dominant season Saturday night, beating host Stanford in NCAA regional play with eight strong innings. He became the 15th player in NCAA Division I history to top 200 strikeouts, and now stands at 15-1, 1.65 with a 201-19 strikeout-walk ratio in 136 innings. But there may not be a team with a top-10 choice that's prepared to take him.

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BTW, the first pick is in less than 5 hours. Covered live on mlb.com beginning at 12:50 pm ET.
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Looks like Pujols is going to miss the series in Wrigley due to a strained hammy. Probably be out for at least a week, but we will find out for sure later today.

Carpenter is on the mound tonight.


My prediction for the Cardinals first and second round picks: It won't be a high school pitcher.
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for the Padres. There no reason to give these first round draft picks any money like they are requesting. F'ing Boras.
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Originally posted by Deftones, Esq
for the Padres. There no reason to give these first round draft picks any money like they are requesting. F'ing Boras.
I concur.
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Damn, no possible victory for the Yanks today.
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Old 06-07-04, 12:26 PM
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Damn, no possible victory for the Yanks today.
Great news. But it gives Sheffield another day to get over the green apple quick-step that kept him out yesterday.
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Originally posted by DarkElf
So a few days ago, we had this brief exchange...








In fact, this is precisely what may happen. The Padres are apparently going to pass on Weaver, and probably on Stephen Drew too, instead going after a much less heralded high school shortstop because of signability. It seems that Weaver will free fall down the draft because none of the early drafting teams want to try to sign him with Boras as his agent.

From Peter Gammons' article:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/gammons/story?id=1816317



And this:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1817037
apparently it aint just a river in egypt
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Padres indeed picked high school SS Matt Bush #1.

1. Matthew Bush, Padres
2. Justin Verlander, Tigers
3. Philip Humber, Mets
4. Jeff Niemann, Devil Rays
5. Mark Rogers, Brewers
6. Jeremy Sowers, Indians
7. Homer Bailey, Reds
8. Wade Townsend, Orioles

Anaheim took Weaver with the 12th pick, so he does slip to a high payroll team.

Stephen Drew still not picked.
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Hey Deftones!

15th pick: Arizona took Stephen Drew!

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Originally posted by DarkElf
Padres indeed picked high school SS Matt Bush #1.

1. Matthew Bush, Padres
2. Justin Verlander, Tigers
3. Philip Humber, Mets
4. Jeff Niemann, Devil Rays
5. Mark Rogers, Brewers
6. Jeremy Sowers, Indians
7. Homer Bailey, Reds
8. Wade Townsend, Orioles

Anaheim took Weaver with the 12th pick, so he does slip to a high payroll team.

Stephen Drew still not picked.
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Originally posted by DarkElf
Hey Deftones!

15th pick: Arizona took Stephen Drew!


he must remind the current players of their grandkids or something
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First round:


1. Padres -- Matt Bush, SS, Mission Bay H.S., El Cajon, Calif.
2. Tigers -- Justin Verlander, RHP, Old Dominion
3. Mets -- Philip Humber, RHP, Rice
4. Devil Rays -- Jeff Niemann, RHP, Rice
5. Brewers -- Mark Rogers, RHP, Mount Ararat H.S., Orr's Island, Maine
6. Indians -- Jeremy Sowers, LHP, Vanderbilt
7. Reds -- Homer Bailey, RHP, LaGrange, Texas
8. Orioles -- Wade Townsend, RHP, Rice
9. Rockies -- Chris Nelson, SS, Redan H.S, Decatur, Ga.
10. Rangers -- Thomas Diamond, RHP, New Orleans
11. Pirates -- Neil Walker, C, Pine Richland H.S., Gibsonia, Pa.
12. Angels -- Jered Weaver, RHP, Long Beach State
13. Expos -- Bill Brey, LHP, William and Mary
14. Royals -- Billy Butler, 3B, Wolfson H.S., Jacksonville, Fla.
15. Diamondbacks -- Stephen Drew, SS, Florida State
16. Blue Jays -- David Purcey, LHP, Oklahoma
17. Dodgers -- Scott Elbert, LHP, Seneca H.S., Seneca, Mo.
18. White Sox -- Josh Fields, 3B, Oklahoma State
19. Cardinals -- Chris Lambert, RHP, Boston College
20. Twins -- Trevor Plouffe, SS, Crespi H.S., Northridge, Calif.
21. Phillies -- Greg Golson, CF, Connally H.S., Austin, Texas
22. Twins -- Glen Perkins, LHP, Minnesota
23. Yankees -- Philip Hughes, RHP, Foothill H.S., Santa Ana, Calif.
24. A's -- Landon Powell, C, South Carolina
25. Twins -- Kyle Waldrop, RHP, Farragut H.S., Knoxville, Tenn.
26. A's -- Richard Robnett, CF, Fresno State
27. Marlins -- Taylor Tankersley, LHP, Alabama
28. Dodgers -- Blake DeWitt, 2B, Sikeston H.S., Sikeston, Mo.
29. Royals -- Matt Campbell, LHP, South Carolina
30. Rangers -- Eric Hurley, RHP, Wolfson H.S., Jacksonville, Fla.


And I'll stop there since no one knows the names beyond the marquis guys.


Rice has 3 of the top 8 picks.

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sorry Deftones, the D-backs are wasting their time and money on a Drew.
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6 high school pitchers in the first round.
The Cardinals were very interested in Purcey (#16) and Fields (#18). I don't know much about Lambert.


I've heard a lot of good things about the Dodgers #17 pick, Elbert, over the past week or so.
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Originally posted by DarkElf
First round:

And I'll stop there since no one knows the names beyond the marquis guys.


Rice has 3 of the top 8 picks.
you dont have to stop there
when i read that.. i actually started on the right side.. looking at where they player was from.. and went down the list there

then went and checked mlb team name

wasnt really interested in reading all the player names in order.. but finding out who the local guys are, and who your team took.. is interesting.. (to me at least)
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ESPN seems behind, having only posted the 1st round.

MLB is more up-to-the-minute, but they don't have a nice tidy listing. It's pretty thorough though, giving nice summaries.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/draftday/y200...round_1_1.html
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Originally posted by B.A.
sorry Deftones, the D-backs are wasting their time and money on a Drew.

why oh why.

I haven't kept up w/ the draft stuff this year. How is Drew compared to his brother? Is he a walking injury awaiting to happen like JD is?
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