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Old 05-25-04, 09:58 PM
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Countdown to 500.. Griffey Jr. Edition

Griffey hit #11 on the season, and #492 in his career

we all know the story.. quickest to most major homerun marks along the way.. before he left seattle, went to cincy and has had a string of unfortunate injuries.

despite his recent problems.. Griffey's ticket to the Hall of Fame has already pretty much been punched..

reaching 500+ would just be icing on the cake

and there is always the chance for more solid years in front of him.. (the kid is 34)

he started out really slow this season.. batting .222 with only 3 homeruns in april

but he has been batting .270+ with 8 homeruns so far in may.. Including his current streak of homeruns in 3 straight games. and a multi homerun game earlier in the month.

btw.. so far this season.. he has missed 2 games.. and played in 42..
last season, he played in 53 total.. the year before that, he played in 70.. and the year before that, he was in 111 with only 22 homeruns... (his first year with the reds, was a good one.. 145 games, 40 homeruns)


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Old 05-25-04, 10:00 PM
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Great! Its been awhile since we've had a jinx thread.
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to put this in perspective a little more..
among active players.. the ones with more homeruns are:

Barry Bonds - 668 - Age 39 - 07/24/1964
Sammy Sosa - 549 - Age 35 - 11/12/1968*
Rafael Palmeiro - 534 - Age 39 - 09/24/1964*

Other players closing in on 500

Fred McGriff - 491 - Age 40 - 10/31/1963
Juan Gonzalez - 434 - Age 34 - 10/16/1969*
Frank Thomas - 426 - Age 35 - 05/27/1968
Jeff Bagwell - 425 - Age 35 - 05/27/1968

yes, bagwell and thomas share a birthday and are within 1 homerun of each other

*Questionable whether reported age is true.
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Old 05-25-04, 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by chrisih8u
Great! Its been awhile since we've had a jinx thread.
thats what Im here for

actually.. i was going to start a countdown thread before the season
but figured i would wait till he got a nice amount of games under his belt, and heated up a bit..
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Old 05-25-04, 10:22 PM
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Fred McGriff is closing in on 500? Does he even play anymore?
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well.. he is back on the devil rays roster.. last i heard
but i dont think he has an at bat this season

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/player...s?statsId=3579
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Yeah...this thread should of been made years ago
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ahh.. in march, he was sent back to the devil rays minor leagues
and here i thought the rays were the minors

and on may 19th, he was promoted back to durham.. so he is a step away from being back in the majors.. and Im sure once the rays have no shot, they will bring him up for the hype that surrounds #500
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Is there a list of 500 homerun players? I wonder if McGriff will be the 1st to reach 500 and not make the HOF.
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Originally posted by Da Thrilla
Yeah...this thread should of been made years ago
well.. not that many years
if he had continued at his great pace from his career up to the injuries.. he would have been hit 500 somewhere between 1 1/2 - 2 years ago..
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Originally posted by chrisih8u
Is there a list of 500 homerun players? I wonder if McGriff will be the 1st to reach 500 and not make the HOF.
19 players have 500 or more
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/st...imeSubFrame2=0

i think there are questions over whether palmeiro will make the hall either
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Originally posted by twikoff
19 players have 500 or more
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/st...imeSubFrame2=0

i think there are questions over whether palmeiro will make the hall either
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Palmeiro will probably be playing longer than McGriff so I thought he may get to be the guy before Palmeiro. Is McGriff going to retire soon? If he cant make the TB roster, doesnt that send a message?
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Originally posted by twikoff
well.. not that many years
if he had continued at his great pace from his career up to the injuries.. he would have been hit 500 somewhere between 1 1/2 - 2 years ago..
true...true...
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Originally posted by twikoff
19 players have 500 or more
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/st...imeSubFrame2=0

i think there are questions over whether palmeiro will make the hall either
Holy crap...Jeff Bagwell has 425?!?!? WOW.
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Originally posted by twikoff

Frank Thomas - 426 - Age 35 - 05/27/1968
the big hurt hit another one tonight

age 35.. already a dh
i wonder if he will stay around another 2-3 years to reach 500
that would be his only shot at the hall
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F-U Griffey for not being hurt this year, since I dropped your injury prone ass in one of my fantasy leagues.
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Old 05-26-04, 03:21 AM
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I like Griffey, I hope he hits 600 career HRs before he is done.
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I always liked Griffey as well. I hope he can start being a dominant player again.
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Originally posted by twikoff
Sammy Sosa - 549 - Age 35 - 11/12/1968*
Rafael Palmeiro - 534 - Age 39 - 09/24/1964*
Juan Gonzalez - 434 - Age 34 - 10/16/1969*

*Questionable whether reported age is true.
Just curious; did you asterisk them just because they are latin, or are there really allegations that the reported age of these specific players is false.
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Originally posted by chrisih8u
I wonder if McGriff will be the 1st to reach 500 and not make the HOF.
*If* he reaches 500, I believe he will be the first not to make the Hall. Raffy will make it, especially if he plays a year or two more.
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Originally posted by nickdawgy
I hope he can start being a dominant player again.
me, too.
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Old 05-26-04, 01:08 PM
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Palmeiro will definetly make it, don't let anyone fool you on that. Not only does he have well over 500 HRs already as posted above (currently at 534), he's well on his way to 3000 hits (2819 and counting). The 500 HR plateau will no longer be a benchmark for automatic hall status, but Palmeiro played a good portion of his career, including many of his "peak" years before the mid-90s offensive explosion. Plus 3000 hits is pretty much a lock as well. To have both 3000 hits and 500 HRs is virtually unheard of (although it has been done by a select few - Aaron, Mays, Murray).
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I really hope he stays healthy. He's a class act and I hated seeing him get injury after injury.

He can put up great numbers still if healthy, given that he's only 34.

Say he plays six more years (counting this season) and averages 30 homers. That would be 663 homers (483 at the start of this season, plus 180 for the six years).

I doubt he'll get that many even if healthy, but he should be in the 600-650 range.

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I think Frank Thomas is real close to making it to the hall.

2 back-to-back MVPs.
10th highest OBP% in ML history
16th highest SLG% in ML history
.310 career average (including 1 title in 97)
8 straight 109+ walk seasons
7 straight 101+ RBI seasons

He was the most feared hitter for a span of 3-4 years too.

Palmerio, McGriff, Thomas, Bagwell are all very similar, but I'd rank them: Palmerio, Thomas, Bagwell, McGriff.
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Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
I really hope he stays healthy. He's a class act and I hated seeing him get injury after injury.

He can put up great numbers still if healthy, given that he's only 34.

Say he plays six more years (counting this season) and averages 30 homers. That would be 763 homers (583 at the start of this season, plus 180 for the six years).

I doubt he'll get that many even if healthy, but he should be in the 650-700 range
Griffey had 483 at the start of this season so the number would be 663
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