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RoyalTea 04-29-04 06:16 PM

Rob Neyer says competitive balance in baseball is at an all time high
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/column...rob&id=1792127

nice to see someone use some facts, instead of mindlessly saying "Steinbrenner Sucks."

namja 04-29-04 06:48 PM

Apparently, he's never heard of the phrase, "Close but no cigar." Since when does close mean anything???

PopcornTreeCt 04-29-04 10:37 PM

Its not about the Yankees winning every year its about the Yankees buying up every great player in baseball and losing every year.

Mordred 04-29-04 10:42 PM

I'm willing to give Neyer his 5 games on 8/1. But 5 games out of first after the season ends doesn't seem to mean that much. 2 games out of first seems reasonable (since a win and a loss on the final day could send you to a playoff game) but anything else is, as Namja put it "Close but no Cigar".

Mordred

Jericho 04-29-04 11:51 PM

Well there are more teams these days, so in theory one should have more diversity in the teams that win. That of course means little to the 5 game stat, since it's based on percentage and not raw numbers.

But I look at the success of teams in the last decade compared to payroll, and despite some occasional outliers, the rich teams win. The Yankees have also gone to 5 of 6 World Series. The Braves are setting records for most consecutive division titles. All this screams to me non-competive.

Still, things look to be changing. The crazy spending that has plagued the late 90s and even early 2000s has more or less stopped, and most teams are on fairly even footing again. Unless one is the AL East, there are really no big spenders or dominant teams. So maybe Neyer has a point, even if he thinks the past few years have been more competitive than I would. still would like to see some true small market teams actually have a winning season once in a while, however.

Red Dog 04-30-04 09:58 AM


Originally posted by Jericho
Well there are more teams these days, so in theory one should have more diversity in the teams that win. That of course means little to the 5 game stat, since it's based on percentage and not raw numbers.

But I look at the success of teams in the last decade compared to payroll, and despite some occasional outliers, the rich teams win. The Yankees have also gone to 5 of 6 World Series. The Braves are setting records for most consecutive division titles. All this screams to me non-competive.


Yeah, I usually agree with Neyer but there are other facts, such as the one stated above, that scream non-competitive.

Compared to the 1970s, and 1990-present, I'd say the 80s the were most competitive period in baseball in the last 35 years. Just look at how many different division winners there were.


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