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Old 04-28-04, 11:44 PM
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mlb history buffs...i have a question

whats more rare - hitting for the cycle or pitching a perfect game?
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Old 04-28-04, 11:48 PM
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a perfect game.
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Old 04-28-04, 11:58 PM
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For perspective, from a quick websearch (before this year):

# of Perfect Games = 16
# of Cycles = 260
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The only other stat close to Perfect Games is Unassisted Triple Play which has been done only 12 times.
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Old 04-29-04, 12:58 AM
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Definitely pitching a perfect game. Some player will usually hit for the cycle every year.
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Old 04-29-04, 12:59 AM
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What about hitting a grand slam twice in one inning...
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Originally posted by B.A.
What about hitting a grand slam twice in one inning...
... off the same pitcher.
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Originally posted by namja
... off the same pitcher.
That's what I'm talking about!

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Old 04-29-04, 10:13 AM
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The rarest??

A grandslam hit from each side of the plate in the same innning.

Happened once.

Anyone know who?

(Hint) Played for the Red sox last year.
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I think that you might be confusing two different records - one for two grand slams in the same inning, and another for two grand slams in one game from different sides on the plate. Each was done once, and each by a different player.
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didn't tatis hit the grandslam in the same inning?
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Old 04-29-04, 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by harpoonipa
The rarest??

A grandslam hit from each side of the plate in the same innning.

Happened once.

Anyone know who?

(Hint) Played for the Red sox last year.
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Old 04-29-04, 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by nodoubt
didn't tatis hit the grandslam in the same inning?
Off of Chan Ho Park.
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Old 04-29-04, 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by harpoonipa
The rarest??

A grandslam hit from each side of the plate in the same innning.

Happened once.

Anyone know who?

(Hint) Played for the Red sox last year.
They were an inning apart. But damn_unbelievable.
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Old 04-29-04, 11:31 AM
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What about 3 hits in an inning? Damon did that last year. Anyone else?
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oops, I meant the same game not inning, my bad
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What about stealing home? has anyone even come close to the Cobb records?
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The original question is kind of lopsided.

Sure, the cycle has been done 260 times already. But there are 18 players in each game (sometimes 19 or 20 depending on how long the game is) who have a shot at hitting the cycle.

Whereas for perfect games, there's only 2 players in each game that have a shot at the perfect game. Thus, the opportunities for a cycle is 9x as high as a perfect game.

Adjusting the numbers, the number of perfect games stays at 16, while the number of cycles -- normalized -- drops to just under 30. Still more rare for a perfect game, but there it isn't as entirely common compared to perfect games as the numbers lead us to believe.
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Scorcho broke out his calculator. Dork.
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If you can't tell that 18 / 2 = 9 and 260 / 9 is just under 30 without a calculator, then you're a complete idiot.
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Originally posted by El Scorcho
The original question is kind of lopsided.

Sure, the cycle has been done 260 times already. But there are 18 players in each game (sometimes 19 or 20 depending on how long the game is) who have a shot at hitting the cycle.

Whereas for perfect games, there's only 2 players in each game that have a shot at the perfect game. Thus, the opportunities for a cycle is 9x as high as a perfect game.

Adjusting the numbers, the number of perfect games stays at 16, while the number of cycles -- normalized -- drops to just under 30. Still more rare for a perfect game, but there it isn't as entirely common compared to perfect games as the numbers lead us to believe.
Seriously, this is a very insightful post.
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Originally posted by harpoonipa
The rarest??

A grandslam hit from each side of the plate in the same game.

Happened once.

Anyone know who?

(Hint) Played for the Red sox last year.
1. Fixed your mistake (yes, saw that you recognized your error).
2. A lot of things happened once, like the two grand slams in one INNING that B.A. posted.
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Originally posted by El Scorcho
If you can't tell that 18 / 2 = 9 and 260 / 9 is just under 30 without a calculator, then you're a complete idiot.
I thought the sarcasm was implied.

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