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Old 04-20-04, 01:27 AM
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Why are the baseball divisions all effed up?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings

What kind of dumb joke is this? Why are there only four teams in the AL West, but six teams in the NL Central?
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Old 04-20-04, 01:37 AM
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It's all simple arithmetic.

The AL and NL have to have even numbers, so with 30 teams, we have 16 and 14, and thus one NL division with 6 teams and one AL division with 4 teams.

Unless you expand or contract, you can't avoid this problem.
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Its very simple actually... If each division had 5 teams in it (with each league having 15 teams) you would ethier:

A) Have at least one team not play every night.


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B) Have at least one inter-league game every night.

Needless to say baseball will never implement the above scenarios.

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Old 04-20-04, 01:57 AM
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Well, A) clearly won't work since there is the concept of series, and to not have a team play for a series, or at best, not play on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday is inconceivable.

So yes, you'd have to have an Interleague matchup going at all times, and I don't think baseball wants to do that since Interleague is considered a big deal (in most cases).

So returning to reality, it's not workable. You must have 16 and 14 teams, or contract two teams.

I think you're stuck with the present scenario for awhile anyway.
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It's not the divisions that are all messed up....it's the records of each team in that link. It has the Yankees first in their division and the Dodgers last in their division?
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Old 04-20-04, 03:26 AM
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Originally posted by Aphex Twin
It's not the divisions that are all messed up....it's the records of each team in that link. It has the Yankees first in their division and the Dodgers last in their division?
Oh great.

Thanks for pointing that out. Since I use ESPN's standings page, I guess I won't bother posting the standings in tomorrow's thread.
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Originally posted by Aphex Twin
It's not the divisions that are all messed up....it's the records of each team in that link. It has the Yankees first in their division and the Dodgers last in their division?


Looks like last years standings....
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Old 04-20-04, 02:40 PM
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I think MLB should expand to 36 teams, then they could have six -6 team divisions
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I think MLB should expand to 36 teams, then they could have six -6 team divisions
I think it would be better if they contracted to eight or twelve teams a league, personally. Expansion has ruined MLB.
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Old 04-20-04, 05:48 PM
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I think it's fine how it is right now.
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I'd rather have a couple of teams contracted instead of expansion.
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Old 04-21-04, 06:04 PM
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Contract Tampa and Montreal, and move Milwaukee back to the AL -- problem solved.
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Old 04-21-04, 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by kenbuzz
Contract Tampa and Montreal, and move Milwaukee back to the AL -- problem solved.
Sounds like a good plan.
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Old 04-22-04, 07:59 AM
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Originally posted by namja
Sounds like a good plan.
Yeah, but the rest of KenBuzz's Sweeping Changes For Baseball aren't nearly as popular:
  • Dissolve the central divisions and go back to a 2-division format.
  • No more wild cards, if you can't win your division after 162 games, you don't deserve to be in post season.
  • Get rid of the DH.
  • Ban steroids.
  • Put an asterisk in the record books for ANY chemically-enhanced record (including Bonds, McGwire, etc).
  • Two words: Salary Cap
  • My biggest beef, though, is intra-league play. In no other sport do teams play games non-league games that count in the league standings. If intra-league play is here to stay AND if the games count in the standings, then the "league" is MLB and the AL and NL are defacto conferences -- get rid of the league presidents, balance the schedules, and fix the rule differences so both conferences are playing under the same guidelines. Either that or stop counting intra-league games in the league standings. The World Series used to mean something when the only teams to play in post-season were division champs and when NL and AL teams never faced each other. The system we have now stretches the playoffs out much too long and diminishes the "magic" that the World Series used to have when two teams who are completely unfamiliar with each other squared off.
Oh, and put Pete in the Hall.

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Old 04-22-04, 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by kenbuzz
Contract Tampa and Montreal, and move Milwaukee back to the AL -- problem solved.
Except for that pesky lease issue in Tampa...
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