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Bill Geiger 03-29-04 11:18 AM

Two More Playoff Teams? Some Want It
Two More Playoff Teams? Some Want It
Mar 29, 10:17 AM (ET)

PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) - A proposal to let two more teams into the NFL playoffs could have a chance at passing at the league meetings after all.

The Kansas City Chiefs will propose an increase in postseason qualifiers from 12 to 14 at this week's meetings. The NFL Competition Committee is against it, and the committee carries much sway.

But several team officials said Sunday they would like to see more playoff teams.

"I'm for anything that gives my team a better chance to make the playoffs," San Francisco 49ers coach Dennis Erickson said.

"I think two more teams in the playoffs would increase the excitement in those cities," added Miami Dolphins president Eddie Jones.

Bob Kraft, owner of the Super Bowl champion New England Patriots, co-sponsored the proposal a year ago, when it was voted down. He's indicated he still favors it.

But Rich McKay, co-chairman of the competition committee and general manager of the Atlanta Falcons, doesn't expect passage of the proposal.

"We feel like the current system has worked very well," McKay said. "The playoff number at 12 is a good number and, for competitive reasons, we don't recommend expansion."

The biggest concern is that with 14 teams, only the team with the best record in each conference would get a first-round bye.

"Yes, that would create a potential unreasonable advantage for the No. 1 seed," McKay said. "When you look at the advantage for the bye of the one and two seeds, certainly you see it. To then give it to the No. 1 seed alone definitely is a concern to all of us."

Increasing the playoff field requires 24 of 32 votes. So does making permanent instant replay to aid officials, which also is on the agenda.

That is considered more likely to happen than adding two playoff berths. If it doesn't pass, well ...

"There's always plan 1-B," said John Mara, executive vice president of the New York Giants. "We think we have more than enough votes to get it in permanently, but if we feel there's enough opposition, we're open to compromise."

That compromise probably would be approving replay for five years. It was first used to help officials in the 1986 season, but was voted out in 1992. It returned, with the current system of coaches' challenges, in 1999.

In 2001, the format was approved for three years. Now, the competition committee has voted 8-0 for permanent installment.

"I have my reservations, because we've been hurt by replay a couple of times," Indianapolis Colts president Bill Polian said. "So yes, I'm for it, but I can see some people still wondering."

Replay could include a third coaches' challenge, too, but only if a team is successful on its first two challenges. That must be voted on by the owners, too.

Other items on the agenda include:

- requiring each team to have at least one possession in overtime;

- discussing upcoming negotiations to extend the collective bargaining agreement with the NFL Players Association beyond its expiration date after the 2007 season;

- discussing negotiations on a new television contract. The current one has two seasons left and commissioner Paul Tagliabue already is preparing to talk with the networks about the next deal;

- adding a 15-yard penalty for excessive on-field celebrations, particularly those involving more than one player and those that appear choreographed;

- extending the revenue-sharing agreement for logos and other licensed items

- extending by two days the one-week postseason period to interview assistant coaches for head coaching positions;

- adding an interview process for front-office personnel during that time period.

twikoff 03-29-04 11:20 AM

why not just let everyone in -ohbfrank-

anything for some additional income

Red Dog 03-29-04 11:23 AM

I'll say the same thing I said last year when this was proposed:


Part of what makes the NBA and NHL so unappealing is the number of playoff teams. There is little point to the regular season.

Plus a 14-team format would really provide too big of a reward for the top seed in each conference - only one to get a bye and home field advantage. They have the ideal number for a 32-team league right now with 12. Stick with it.

B.A. 03-29-04 11:57 AM

Well said, Red Dog.

Plus - The playoffs don't need to be longer than they already are.

edytwinky 03-29-04 03:41 PM

I agree. Teams are working their ass off to get a bye and Home Field advantage. With few spots, it adds to the intrigue of all 16 regular season games. Everything has meaning to it.

El Scorcho 03-29-04 03:47 PM


Nothing would beat seeing a 7-9 team in the playoffs.

antennaball 03-29-04 04:07 PM

Re: Two More Playoff Teams? Some Want It

Originally posted by Bill Geiger
"I'm for anything that gives my team a better chance to make the playoffs," San Francisco 49ers coach Dennis Erickson said.
except, of course, keeping the talented players that they have and going with unproven backup QB's.

back on-topic: the NFL doesn't need to turn into the NBA where the first 50 games don't really count.

Aphex Twin 03-29-04 04:09 PM

How about adding just one more team into the playoffs and making that team the team that wins the BCS championship game?

Dubya 03-29-04 04:28 PM

No offense to Dolphins fans but I can see why they would be in favor of it ;)

bigdogkt2003 03-29-04 06:14 PM

Just move it from 12 to 18 teams and let no one have a bye.
That seems fair.

Red Dog 03-29-04 06:16 PM

How do you have an 18-team playoff without someone having a bye? :hscratch:

dvd-4-life 03-29-04 06:45 PM

If all 32 teams made the playoffs the Detroit Lions still wouldn't qualify.Maybe they should go to the CFL where they like having 2 teams with the same nickname,Ott. Rough Riders,Sask. Roughriders,BC Lions,Det. Lions.

POWERBOMB 03-29-04 09:54 PM

The only ones that want it are just greedy revenue wanting mustards who want to line their pockets with more money while asking us to pay for their new stadiums.

nickdawgy 03-30-04 04:31 AM

Re: Re: Two More Playoff Teams? Some Want It

Originally posted by antennaball
except, of course, keeping the talented players that they have and going with unproven backup QB's.

It's not his fault that York is running the team into the ground.

chrisih8u 03-30-04 04:48 AM

The Chiefs dropped the plan, so there won't even be a vote on it this year.

shadowhawk2020 03-30-04 05:42 AM

I think the best reason for it is only having 2 wildcard teams... That means if you have a 10-7 record you could be out but a team with a 9-9 record in a crappy division is in the playoffs. Thats not a good system in my opinion.


Bill Geiger 03-30-04 07:07 AM

They only play 16 games during the regular season. How can someone be 9-9 at the end of the regular season?? http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/images/...eadscratch.gif

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