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Old 03-17-04, 09:10 PM
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1 player to Start a Franchise. 4 sports. Who do you take?

If you are starting a franchise cold who is the player you would get first? There are 4 sports listed and you have the pick of the entire league. The team will otherwise follow normal draft procedures as any new franchise would. Remember in choosing the player that the supporting cast will be of a highly questionable nature.

This is not a managerial question. No matter the common sense we are only allowing players. Choosing someone to run and plan the future of the franchise would be of more impact than any one player. So we will keep it simple. And any minor league players are also allowed. The future and all that.


NBA - Kevin Garnett - All World. Al positions. Still young. Every quality you would want to start a franchise. The only reason I would not is because of making him do it twice.

MLB - Josh Beckett. Fireballer. World Champions. 23 years old. A great pitcher just saves everyone alot of work.

NHL - Peter Forsberg. Because he is Peter ****ing Forsberg. Not the common sense best choice or the one that will last the longest but ...

NFL - The hardest by far. QB of the present will just get killed. Weakside O-Lineman. RB. Shutdown corner.... Eli Manning. Plan for the future and don't play him for at leat the first year.
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nba - garnett (maybe duncan)
mlb - prior (maybe bonds, just to pack the seats while he tries for the record)
nhl - ummm.. can i pick gretzy? good, cause I dont know any others
nfl - payton manning (then draft eli and let him learn from big bro)
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Old 03-17-04, 09:28 PM
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nba- I will take the Answer... he would sell a lot of jerseys
mlb- Bonds... I don't know enough about Baseball
nfl- Eli Manning


NHL- simple choice... looking to the future... Sidney Crosby...
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He is 16 years old.
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Old 03-17-04, 09:35 PM
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Why the love for Eli Manning? You can choose anybody in the NFL and you pick someone who has never even played a game? I can see "the future", but its not like you cant pick someone young and proven.
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Old 03-17-04, 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by chrisih8u
Why the love for Eli Manning? You can choose anybody in the NFL and you pick someone who has never even played a game? I can see "the future", but its not like you cant pick someone young and proven.
@ twikoff's hockey pick.

I don't know. The NFL one got hard fast. You take a proven QB and he gets wasted behind low/no protection for a few years. RB cannot find room to run. CB shuts down one guy and all the rest score TD's. Defensive lineman watch guys run elsewhere. LB gets killed and triple teamed.

Football is so much a team sport the sole player becomes less important until you start to improve. Their effect is just less so.
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Originally posted by Corleone
nba- I will take the Answer... he would sell a lot of jerseys
mlb- Bonds... I don't know enough about Baseball
nfl- Eli Manning


NHL- simple choice... looking to the future... Sidney Crosby...
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He is 16 years old.
I heard about some young stud, this would appear to be the guy. If they get through in the playoffs I'd like to see him play. Nice numbers.
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Originally posted by Preacher


I don't know. The NFL one got hard fast. You take a proven QB and he gets wasted behind low/no protection for a few years. RB cannot find room to run. CB shuts down one guy and all the rest score TD's. Defensive lineman watch guys run elsewhere. LB gets killed and triple teamed.

Football is so much a team sport the sole player becomes less important until you start to improve. Their effect is just less so.
I agree football is a team sport and 1 player cant make much of a difference, but I just figured that it would be wiser to pick someone who is proven. Anyways, here's mine. (assuming Im negotiating a whole new contract, not the ones they have now)

MLB: A-Rod
NBA: Garnett seems like a popular pick. I dont know basketball.
NHL: I know even less about hockey. I hear Joe Thornton's name alot. Ill go with him.
NFL: I think it would be wise to take a young quarterback. Preferably, someone who has already won a couple championships. Someone who has the ability to drive his team to a Superbowl win in the final minutes. Ill take any QB that fits that description.
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NFL- Vick
MLB- Prior
NBA- Lebron James
NHL-??
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NFL - Manning - I don't know here. Injuries can happen any any time, but QB is the best position and Manning still has many years in front of him
MLB - ARod, I'll take a hitter over a pitcher. Pitchers have too many arm injuries
NHL - Kovalchuk - just a beast
NBA - Garnett
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NFL - Vick
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MLB - ARod
NFL - P. Manning
NHL - No idea
NBA - Garnett
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NBA - Kobe Bryant. Legal trouble aside, he's still the best player in the NBA.

MLB - Albert Pujols. Hard not to pick Arod, but Pujols is right up there. Not only does he put up the power numbers, but he can play multiple positions on the field, and will hit .350.

NFL - Michael Vick. I think he showed that he was the real deal when he came back from injury last season.

NHL - I don't know anything about Hockey either.
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Nobody gives a shit about Hockey.
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I'll give my top two or three for each sport sans hockey

MLB - Prior, A-Rod,
NBA - Garnett, Lebron, Melo
NFL - Ladainian Tomlinson, Vick
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NHL - Roberto Luongo. A young all star goaltender who can keep any team in a playoff hunt. Gotta build the team from the pipes out.

I don't care enough about the other sports to comment.
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Old 03-18-04, 12:29 AM
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NBA - Garnett
MLB - Prior
NFL - Vick
NHL - Roberto Luongo - Brilliant goalie, and he's only 24. His team got outshot 54-24 today, and they still managed to win because of him.
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Did you see him tonight.... 50 saves... wow...

However... I would take Marc-Andre Fleury...
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NBA- KG
NFL- Vick
MLB- ARod
NHL- Forsberg (don't know enough about this guy Crosby, with more research I might pick him)
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Forsberg has way too many health issues... when he is healthy is one of the greatest players ever...
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Originally posted by Corleone
Forsberg has way too many health issues... when he is healthy is one of the greatest players ever...
A pick made with the heart. Not necessarily the head. Been my favorite player for almost 10 years now. If they did not allow tackling in the NHL these last years I wonder how many points he could have put up.
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Originally posted by Preacher
A pick made with the heart. Not necessarily the head. Been my favorite player for almost 10 years now. If they did not allow tackling in the NHL these last years I wonder how many points he could have put up.
And, when healthy, he is the best player in the NHL. Has moves and speed to match the shiftiest snipers, in the body of a linebacker.
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Originally posted by Corleone
Did you see him tonight.... 50 saves... wow...

However... I would take Marc-Andre Fleury...
Fleury definitely has the ability to be a franchise goalie, and being a Pens fan, I almost chose him as well. The thing that separates Luongo is that he has already proven he can carry a poor team in the NHL, and he has proven that in more then one season. Fleury will probably turn out to be an outstanding goalie, but at this point, it would be too much of a gamble for me with Luongo available.
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I assume that you are cheering for your team to lose, Dr_Evil.

If I was in your position I would not want them to win.

Alexander Ovechkin looks awesome.
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Originally posted by Corleone
I assume that you are cheering for your team to lose, Dr_Evil.

If I was in your position I would not want them to win.

Alexander Ovechkin looks awesome.
I was until I read that very rarely (if ever?) does the actual last place team win the lottery. So I'd like to pass at least one team before the season ends. The way the team has been playing lately, tonight excluded, it looks like we could. Plus, it is good to see these young kids put together a nice streak and get some confidence.

Ovechkin will be another franchise player, so him with Fleury, Lemimeux and the rest of these young guys with a year more of experience would be a playoff contender. Too bad it looks like there won't be hockey next year.
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