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Old 02-11-04, 02:04 PM
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USA loses another Olympic spot to Mexico

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/index?ver=us&cc=5901

After taking our baseball team out of an Olympic spot, which wasn't a big deal considering we had minor league players, Mexico just beat our pro socers players out of another spot. No baseball OR soccer for the US this year. What the hell's going on?
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US Brings the sukkk
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the US has pro soccer players???
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The U.S. will NEVER be able to compete with the rest of the world on a level like this until we have an organized league at the highest skill level to develop our players, like other countries do.
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Originally posted by Y2K Falcon
The U.S. will NEVER be able to compete with the rest of the world on a level like this until we have an organized league at the highest skill level to develop our players, like other countries do.
You mean the sub-World Cup level, right? They competed just fine with the rest of the world in the last World Cup.
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Come on now, the U.S. wasn't too far from a Semi-final appearance in the last World Cup two years ago.

Yesterday's loss is disappointing, but what is more disappointing is the "One-and-Done" aspect of the tournament. If the U.S. had lost their last round-robin game on purpose, played Coast Rica instead of Mexico in the semi's, and beat them before losing to Mexico in the final, they would be in the Olympics. Thus, if they finished 3-2, they would be in. But 3-1 didn't get it done.

For a simple comparison, the U.S. losing in Mexico, to Mexico and missing the Olympics is like a 15-0 football team travelling to Denver during December for a must-win game to make it into the playoffs.
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Yeah, like baseball, I don't get the one and done philosophy. I know Olympic soccer is viewed as a bit of a joke compared to the World Cup. But I'd still think you'd want the best teams. I'd figure one would want the best teams possible. And go undefeated in pool play just to lose one game seems ridiculous. It's exactly what happened to the baseball team.

Oh well, at least U.S. Soccer isn't as good as U.S. baseball. And Mexico is pretty damn good in soccer, so it's no shame to lose to them.
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Originally posted by El Scorcho
US Brings the sukkk
Sad, but true.
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Well, at least it's just soccer, and not an important event...


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The crowd chanted, "Osama! Osama! Osama!" and booed the Star Spangled Banner according to espn.com
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The should have lost the game on Sunday giving them a game against either Costa Rica or Honduras which would have been far easier than playing Mexico at Jalisco in front of 60K+.
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Originally posted by weargle
The crowd chanted, "Osama! Osama! Osama!" and booed the Star Spangled Banner according to espn.com
The crowd? I read a few dozen drunk fans did. Exaggerate much?
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The "one and done" concept seems like complete and utter b.s.
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Do all countries have their pros in for this event? I remember the Spain/Cameroon match at Sydney and basically people said neither team had their good players, more their up and coming players.
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What's sad is that I thought the US national team was better than Mexico's...

Anyway, Brazil and Czech Republic didn't qualify either apparently...
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Originally posted by mnguye10
Brazil didn't qualify either apparently...
Now that's interesting...What the hell happened?
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Originally posted by B.A.hist
Now that's interesting...What the hell happened?
http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns
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Alot of players were not let out from their clubs teams due to upcoming Copa America and World Cup Qualifying matches. That being said they did field a really good team and just didn't make the cut. Little known fact, Brasil has never won an Olympic gold medal in soccer.
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Thanks, I was just at Yahoo sports after you mentioned it and I didn't see the link.

Good for Paraguay, but it still sucks for the U.S. team.
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Originally posted by Gallant Pig
Do all countries have their pros in for this event? I remember the Spain/Cameroon match at Sydney and basically people said neither team had their good players, more their up and coming players.
I don't know the current rules, but in previous years they only allowed players 23 and under, with maybe three exceptions. So not exactly the pros, although in soccer I guess many of those younger guys are in leagues too. It's almost a junior championship (like in hockey)
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Originally posted by Jericho
I don't know the current rules, but in previous years they only allowed players 23 and under, with maybe three exceptions. So not exactly the pros, although in soccer I guess many of those younger guys are in leagues too. It's almost a junior championship (like in hockey)
Yup. 23 and under with three overage exceptions for *men's*.

For the women's tournament, it's full national teams. The Olympics are a close, close second to the WC in women's soccer. For men's the Olys are behind several other tournaments.

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Originally posted by Gallant Pig
Do all countries have their pros in for this event? I remember the Spain/Cameroon match at Sydney and basically people said neither team had their good players, more their up and coming players.
Most national teams aren't that great compaired to the european league teams. Powerhouses like juventus could easily finish top 4 in the world cup.

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