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Old 12-19-02, 01:31 PM
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current NHL All-Star voting... :rolleyes:

http://espn.go.com/nhl/news/2002/1218/1479241.html

Results through Dec. 18 for the NHL All-Star game scheduled Feb. 2 at the Office Depot Center in Sunrise, Fla.:

Eastern Conference
Wingers
Jaromir Jagr, Washington, 86,507. Alexei Kovalev, Pittsburgh, 63,932. Alexander Mogilny, Toronto, 63,421. Pavel Bure, NY Rangers, 58,739. John LeClair, Philadelphia, 54,290. Jeff O'Neill, Carolina, 41,535. Glen Murray, Boston, 37,576. Erik Cole, Carolina, 35,107. Sergei Samsonov, Boston, 32,629. Ilya Kovalchuk, Atlanta, 32,171.

Patrik Elias, New Jersey, 29,494. Peter Bondra, Washington, 27,881. Simon Gagne, Philadelphia, 27,439. Sami Kapanen, Carolina, 27,149. Richard Zednik, Montreal, 26,478. Dany Heatley, Atlanta, 26,373. Mark Recchi, Philadelphia, 26,073. Daniel Alfredsson, Ottawa, 25,291. Marian Hossa, Ottawa, 23,330. Miroslav Satan, Buffalo, 20,538. Mark Parrish, NY Islanders, 14,857.

Goaltenders
Nikolai Khabibulin, Tampa Bay, 72,095. Martin Brodeur, New Jersey, 66,245. Arturs Irbe, Carolina, 51,331. Ed Belfour, Toronto, 46,298. Jose Theodore, Montreal, 40,319. Roman Cechmanek, Philadelphia, 18,801. Mike Richter, NY Rangers, 18,245. Olaf Kolzig, Washington, 16,851. Chris Osgood, NY Islanders, 16,532. Patrick Lalime, Ottawa,16,250. Roberto Luongo, Florida, 13,376.

Centers
Mario Lemieux, Pittsburgh, 109,075. Joe Thornton, Boston, 37,580. Saku Koivu, Montreal, 31,555. Joe Nieuwendyk, New Jersey, 29,672. Ron Francis, Carolina, 29,544. Mats Sundin, Toronto, 28,735. Vincent Lecavalier, Tampa Bay, 21,843. Eric Lindros, NY Rangers, 19,434. Jeremy Roenick, Philadelphia, 18,509. Rod Brind'Amour, Carolina, 16,093. Michael Peca, NY Islanders, 10,750. Robert Lang, Washington, 9,796. Alexei Yashin, NY Islanders, 9,785. Brian Rolston, Boston, 9,050. Radek Bonk, Ottawa, 7,829. Keith Primeau, Philadelphia, 7,640. Martin Straka, Pittsburgh, 6,817.

Defensemen
Brian Leetch, NY Rangers, 95,328. Scott Stevens, New Jersey, 79,531. Scott Niedermayer, New Jersey, 74,976. Sandis Ozolinsh, Florida, 63,467. Sergei Gonchar, Washington, 56,186. Tomas Kaberle, Toronto, 45,876. Bryan McCabe, Toronto, 45,660. Wade Redden, Ottawa, 35,433. Brian Rafalski, New Jersey, 35,404. Adrian Aucoin, NY Islanders, 33,467. Zdeno Chara, Ottawa, 33,136. Alexei Zhitnik, Buffalo, 32,737. Kim Johnsson, Philadelphia, 31,156. Roman Hamrlik, NY Islanders, 28,400. Oleg Tverdovsky, New Jersey, 25,177.

Western Conference
Wingers
Brett Hull, Detroit, 48,193. Teemu Selanne, San Jose, 47,999. Bill Guerin, Dallas, 46,078. Brendan Shanahan, Detroit, 45,843. Paul Kariya, Anaheim, 44,356. Marian Gaborik, Minnesota, 40,891. Owen Nolan, San Jose, 38,436. Todd Bertuzzi, Vancouver, 35,860. Markus Naslund, Vancouver, 35,221. Jarome Iginla, Calgary, 34,015.

Milan Hejduk, Colorado, 23,720. Jere Lehtinen, Dallas, 20,273. Keith Tkachuk, St. Louis, 17,505. Tony Amonte, Phoenix, 12,591. Zigmund Palffy, Los Angeles, 11,689. Anson Carter, Edmonton, 11,298. Geoff Sanderson, Columbus, 10,432. Ray Whitney, Columbus, 9,905. Petr Sykora, Anaheim, 9,025. Ryan Smyth, Edmonton, 8,815.

Goaltenders
Patrick Roy, Colorado, 87,275. Curtis Joseph, Detroit, 57,881. Evgeni Nabokov, San Jose, 44,585. Jocelyn Thibault, Chicago, 21,938. Tommy Salo, Edmonton, 17,233. Felix Potvin, Los Angeles, 16,292. Roman Turek, Calgary, 12,937. Jean-Sebastien, Giguere, Anaheim, 11,502. Sean Burke, Phoenix, 9,645. Brent Johnson, St. Louis, 9,424.

Centers
Joe Sakic, Colorado, 59,162. Mike Modano, Dallas, 40,767. Sergei Fedorov, Detroit, 37,959. Peter Forsberg, Colorado, 33,224. Steve Yzerman, Detroit, 19,880. Patrick Marleau, San Jose, 18,907. Vincent Damphousse, San Jose, 17,515. Chris Drury, Calgary, 13,606. Doug Weight, St. Louis, 9,115. Mike Comrie, Edmonton, 8,410. Adam Oates, Anaheim, 7,803. Jason Allison, Los Angeles, 6,881. Pavol Demitra, St. Louis, 5,704. Mike York, Edmonton, 4,527. Alexei Zhamnov, Chicago, 3,948. Craig Conroy, Calgary, 2,934.

Defensemen
Nicklas Lidstrom, Detroit, 95,366. Rob Blake, Colorado, 78,445 . Chris Chelios, Detroit, 67,088. Ed Jovanovski, Vancouver, 48,105. Adam Foote, Colorado, 43,249. Al MacInnis, St. Louis, 41,743. Sergei Zubov, Dallas, 40,669. Chris Pronger, St. Louis, 32,389. Derian Hatcher, Dallas, 28,919. Janne Niinimaa, Edmonton, 20,733. Mattias Ohlund, Vancouver, 19,248. Teppo Numminen, Phoenix, 13,334. Derek Morris, Colorado, 12,194. Kimmo Timonen, Nashville, 10,169. Danny Markov, Phoenix, 8,633.

It's bad enough that Martin St. Louis didn't even make the Eastern top 20 wingers, but no Marty Turco for the Western goalie???

I guess the NHL All-Star voting is just as bad as MLB All-Star voting...
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Old 12-19-02, 10:31 PM
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Yeah, it always like that though. Ozolinsh got in as usual last year, and that's before he went red-hot with the Panthers. selanne also got in last year on a very sub par year.

Some say the game is for the fans, and while that is true most people I see voting for the all-stars don't reallt care. They have no idea how well most players are doing and just either vote for the hometown guy or the big name. Besides, say Brett Hull wins an all-star spot. Way more people voted against him than for him. Is that really w hat the fans want?

Sorry for the rant, but I think all-star voting is just a lame PR move. Do people really care? I mean the voter turn-out in real elections in America isn't so hot.
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Old 12-20-02, 02:41 AM
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Well, last year really doesn't count in regards to Ozo and Teemu as they had the World team and basically picked the best Euros, whereas this year they went back to the East Vs West format.

Martin St Louis wasn't on the ballots I believe as they most likely were pre-printed before the season had started?

Elias starting over Hossa?
Hull over Naslund?

Even Steve Yzerman has pulled in almost 20K votes and he hasn't even laced up the skates this year.
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Originally posted by dek
Martin St Louis wasn't on the ballots I believe as they most likely were pre-printed before the season had started?
A friend of mine in Florida said that Tampa tried to start a write-in campaign for St. Louis and it just died.

There are some places hockey was just meant to not be played.

A couple that I find hilarious on this list are:
Scott Stevens - 79,5k - yeah, what a blistering year he's having! In fact, him, Elias, and Nieuwendyk - a guy that may be traded any second. I guess more folks in Jersey vote than in all of Canada.

Patrick Roy - 87k - is he even in the top 20? Is his sv% over .900? has he had 1 shutout?

If they would turn the voting over to the players and coaches then wouldn't the All-Star game have more meaning, be a better game, and thus the fans enjoy it more?
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Now, I'm a Canes fan, but how in the h-e-double-hockeysticks does Irbe get the third place vote for goaltender? He's simply awful this year, but Weekes isn't even on the All Star radar.
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Originally posted by BoatDrinks
A friend of mine in Florida said that Tampa tried to start a write-in campaign for St. Louis and it just died.

There are some places hockey was just meant to not be played.

A couple that I find hilarious on this list are:
Scott Stevens - 79,5k - yeah, what a blistering year he's having! In fact, him, Elias, and Nieuwendyk - a guy that may be traded any second. I guess more folks in Jersey vote than in all of Canada.

Patrick Roy - 87k - is he even in the top 20? Is his sv% over .900? has he had 1 shutout?

If they would turn the voting over to the players and coaches then wouldn't the All-Star game have more meaning, be a better game, and thus the fans enjoy it more?
This happens in baseball every year too.
The fans vote for who they want to see. It's fair if youa sk me
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Old 12-20-02, 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by Thunderball
This happens in baseball every year too.
The fans vote for who they want to see. It's fair if youa sk me
Most of these fans are idiots though and only vote on name recognition not performance.
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