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Old 12-10-02, 11:03 PM
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Can the Dolphins beat the Raiders

I am hoping that the Miami that looks like a Super Bowl Champion shows up against the Raiders and not the other Doplhins that look like the Bengals wearing Teal.

I am also a Raider fan but my team will always be the Dolphins and I am praying they put together a complete game and beat the Raiders.

also a win by Tennessee would be nice
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Old 12-10-02, 11:07 PM
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You are a fan of 3 different teams, and you're from Houston?

Can I ask how/why?
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Old 12-10-02, 11:25 PM
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With Raiders' weak defense... Miami can whip their butts.
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As if Miami's defense is top rated. No predictions from me for this game. Too tough to call.
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Old 12-11-02, 03:26 AM
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Originally posted by mysterX
As if Miami's defense is top rated. No predictions from me for this game. Too tough to call.
. Miami has a pretty good defense, especially at home.
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Originally posted by mysterX
As if Miami's defense is top rated. No predictions from me for this game. Too tough to call.
Miami's allowing something like 11 points per game at home, 6-1 at home, and has allowed a total of 19 points in the past 3 home games ... (6 of them being that meaningless Chicago drive at the very end of the game on Monday). I'd call that good D.

And this game depends on which Miami team shows up. Period. Praying it's the good one (go Fins!) ... and lets try to hold Gannon down to keep Danny boy's record.
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I don't care as long as they keep Rich Gannon relatively in check
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I thought you mean defense overall, not just at home. Did I mention that Raiders have one of the top offense also?
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Old 12-11-02, 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by mysterX
I thought you mean defense overall, not just at home.
Well, the game is in Miami.

Miami's always played very well against west-coast teams in Miami. And if Ricky controls thr ground like he can, then they're not going to get the ball enough for the Raiders O to do a whole lot. Plus even with Madison's struggles, Miami still has one of the best CB duos in the game.
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I know, I know, I'm going out on a limb with this one, but I bet Miami could very well win this game. Or at least keep it close.
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Originally posted by McHawkson
With Raiders' weak defense... Miami can whip their butts.

the same weak defense that shut down LT and the rest of their offense last week, right?
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Can? Of course.

Will? No.

Both teams have good defenses - among the best in the AFC.
But the Raiders have many more offensive options and showed they can stuff the run vs SD.
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Originally posted by mnguye10
You are a fan of 3 different teams, and you're from Houston?

Can I ask how/why?
I am going for Tennesse because they are playing New England and Miami need all the Help they can get.

I like the Raiders but I am a die-hard Miami fan. The Raiders are good but old men can get tired toward the end of the season.
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I hope the Dolphins can beat them. That way the Titans could have a chance for homefield throughout. Right now it's Raiders then the Titans as the second seed.
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Originally posted by bluntman72
The Raiders are good but old men can get tired toward the end of the season.

thats been talked about since early on in the season. its not gonna happen
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Oak 9-4
@Miami 1:00pm
Denver 4:15pm
Kansas City

Fins 8-5
Oakland
@Minnesota
@New England

NE 8-5
@Tennessee
N.Y. Jets
Miami

Indy 8-5
@Cleveland
N.Y. Giants
Jacksonville

SD 8-5
@Buffalo 1:00pm
@Kansas City 1:00pm
Seattle

TN 8-5
New England
@Jacksonville
@Houston


As of it looks now, Oakland has the edge for homefield due to their schedule. I'm not sure if Indy and TN can win their remaining 3. Sd has two tough games coming up on the road. Fins close out with 2 games on the road. Even if NE win all three, Oakland still has the edge.

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It was a pretty good game last year. I think Feidler ran in the winning touchdown in the last minute of the game. I will take the Raiders 27 Miami 20.
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The Dolphins "can" beat them if they don't bring their A game. If they bring the A game I don't think any team in the league can beat them, unless they get help from the refs.
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Originally posted by TaTTooD
the same weak defense that shut down LT and the rest of their offense last week, right?
Not only that, but let's not forget the Raiders defence held the defending champs Patroits with out on offencive touchdown. NE's 2 td's were on an interception and a kick return.

I hope the Raiders kill them.

SQUISH THE FISH!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by TaTTooD
the same weak defense that shut down LT and the rest of their offense last week, right?
They got L U C K Y.
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Originally posted by McHawkson
They got L U C K Y.

we'll see how "LUCKY" they are in San Diego come January
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Originally posted by mysterX
As if Miami's defense is top rated. No predictions from me for this game. Too tough to call.
As a matter of fact they are:
AFC Team Leaders

Defensive Leaders
RNK NAME YDS YPG RUSH RUSH YPG PASS PASS YPG PTS PTS/G
1 Miami 3738 287.5 1253 96.4 2485 191.2 237 18.2
2 Denver 3803 292.5 1084 83.4 2719 209.2 285 21.9
3 Indianapolis 3825 294.2 1639 126.1 2186 168.2 233 17.9
4 Pittsburgh 4005 308.1 1137 87.5 2868 220.6 293 22.5
5 Oakland 4145 318.8 1207 92.8 2938 226.0 265 20.4
6 Houston 4218 324.5 1632 125.5 2586 198.9 294 22.6
7 New England 4260 327.7 1596 122.8 2664 204.9 268 20.6
8 Cleveland 4325 332.7 1685 129.6 2640 203.1 263 20.2
9 Buffalo 4341 333.9 1803 138.7 2538 195.2 365 28.1
10 Tennessee 4350 334.6 1265 97.3 3085 237.3 304 23.4
11 Cincinnati 4410 339.2 1762 135.5 2648 203.7 387 29.8
12 Jacksonville 4465 343.5 1705 131.2 2760 212.3 252 19.4
13 Baltimore 4469 343.8 1430 110.0 3039 233.8 287 22.1
14 NY Jets 4659 358.4 1657 127.5 3002 230.9 282 21.7
15 San Diego 4811 370.1 1368 105.2 3443 264.8 292 22.5
16 Kansas City 5029 386.8 1441 110.8 3588 276.0 322 24.8


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Originally posted by mysterX
Oak 9-4
@Miami 1:00pm
Denver 4:15pm
Kansas City

Fins 8-5
Oakland
@Minnesota
@New England

NE 8-5
@Tennessee
N.Y. Jets
Miami

Indy 8-5
@Cleveland
N.Y. Giants
Jacksonville

SD 8-5
@Buffalo 1:00pm
@Kansas City 1:00pm
Seattle

TN 8-5
New England
@Jacksonville
@Houston


As of it looks now, Oakland has the edge for homefield due to their schedule. I'm not sure if Indy and TN can win their remaining 3. Sd has two tough games coming up on the road. Fins close out with 2 games on the road. Even if NE win all three, Oakland still has the edge.
I have got to disagree. If anything, Oakland has the toughest schedule down the stretch. The easiest schedules seem to be for Indy and Tenn.
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