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Originally posted by twikoff
yea.. i figure you dont get many chances at a measuring stick, as good as this..
we are going to train our rookies identical for awhile.. just to compare with each other.. but i figure we can keep an eye on their gains, to get a pretty good feel for about what level all the other players are at..
I was thinking 3 full pies at each skill (except pitching.. i really dont want to consider the idea that the rookie might be a pitcher
).. and see how he compares to the rest of the team.. then change his routine from there
yea.. i figure you dont get many chances at a measuring stick, as good as this..
we are going to train our rookies identical for awhile.. just to compare with each other.. but i figure we can keep an eye on their gains, to get a pretty good feel for about what level all the other players are at..
I was thinking 3 full pies at each skill (except pitching.. i really dont want to consider the idea that the rookie might be a pitcher
).. and see how he compares to the rest of the team.. then change his routine from there
And like you, I just don't want to see if they are awesome pitchers or not. I really like my set up with A.C. pitching and blasting homers. But I suppose at some point I ought to, just to be thorough...
10-03-02, 08:59 PM
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Are you going to do 3 contact, 3 skill and 3 power? Or just combine some of the hitting?
Are you going to do 3 contact, 3 skill and 3 power? Or just combine some of the hitting?
Ill probably do 3 contact.. 3 skill.. and then 3 power..
doing power earlier, would probably be a waste.. since its assumed that they gain less power, when they keep swinging and missing in the red cage...
but I definitly want a well rounded batter.. that is one thing I can say about standard trainer.. it forces you to build so pretty damn well rounded batters.. i almost would consider trying some batting training in ST, if i could see their gains.
10-03-02, 09:13 PM
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DarkElf or twikoff,
Rookie question: Do you think that 3 full pies is enough? I was planning on giving a rookie at least 5 full pies in each skill. Is that too much? My reasoning is that it is exactly what I did with my practice team, if not more pie, and they zoomed to 8*. Just curious.
Rookie question: Do you think that 3 full pies is enough? I was planning on giving a rookie at least 5 full pies in each skill. Is that too much? My reasoning is that it is exactly what I did with my practice team, if not more pie, and they zoomed to 8*. Just curious.
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Originally posted by twikoff
3 of each, probably.. i figure there is no rush at all.. because lisa NEVER would have been a starter..
Ill probably do 3 contact.. 3 skill.. and then 3 power..
doing power earlier, would probably be a waste.. since its assumed that they gain less power, when they keep swinging and missing in the red cage...
3 of each, probably.. i figure there is no rush at all.. because lisa NEVER would have been a starter..
Ill probably do 3 contact.. 3 skill.. and then 3 power..
doing power earlier, would probably be a waste.. since its assumed that they gain less power, when they keep swinging and missing in the red cage...
I'll keep track of all gains and we should compare. I'm starting batting skill tonight...
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Originally posted by Pharoh
DarkElf or twikoff,
Rookie question: Do you think that 3 full pies is enough? I was planning on giving a rookie at least 5 full pies in each skill. Is that too much? My reasoning is that it is exactly what I did with my practice team, if not more pie, and they zoomed to 8*. Just curious.
DarkElf or twikoff,
Rookie question: Do you think that 3 full pies is enough? I was planning on giving a rookie at least 5 full pies in each skill. Is that too much? My reasoning is that it is exactly what I did with my practice team, if not more pie, and they zoomed to 8*. Just curious.
I'm trying to see what they're going to be good at, and also how they compare with each other. I'm fortunate that I have a new lefty as a 3rd player to add to the comparison because I already know what that guy is capable of in the hitting categories. He's my measuring stick for the two rookies.
But if you want to get them into the lineup, no, 3 full pies isn't nearly enough. I'll worry about the additional training (beyond 3 pies for each skill) once I can begin to identify where they'll fit in on the team.
10-03-02, 09:22 PM
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I jus t started my game against doug... I am going to bed because I have to be to work in 4 and 1/2 hrs... I will submit my score before work. Thanks...
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10-03-02, 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by DarkElf
Enough for what? Depends on what your goal is initially with the rookies.
I'm trying to see what they're going to be good at, and also how they compare with each other. I'm fortunate that I have a new lefty as a 3rd player to add to the comparison because I already know what that guy is capable of in the hitting categories. He's my measuring stick for the two rookies.
But if you want to get them into the lineup, no, 3 full pies isn't nearly enough. I'll worry about the additional training (beyond 3 pies for each skill) once I can begin to identify where they'll fit in on the team.
Enough for what? Depends on what your goal is initially with the rookies.
I'm trying to see what they're going to be good at, and also how they compare with each other. I'm fortunate that I have a new lefty as a 3rd player to add to the comparison because I already know what that guy is capable of in the hitting categories. He's my measuring stick for the two rookies.
But if you want to get them into the lineup, no, 3 full pies isn't nearly enough. I'll worry about the additional training (beyond 3 pies for each skill) once I can begin to identify where they'll fit in on the team.
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Originally posted by Pharoh
Even enough for ascertaining their skill potential. Do you think, for example, that 3 full pies in power will be enough to determine if that guy will be a homerun hitter. I am curious because I never tracked skill gains in the begining and am fairly clueless as to what is expected early on in a players life.
Even enough for ascertaining their skill potential. Do you think, for example, that 3 full pies in power will be enough to determine if that guy will be a homerun hitter. I am curious because I never tracked skill gains in the begining and am fairly clueless as to what is expected early on in a players life.
The way I figure, these guys make huge gains in the first few pies, so I'll rotate them through all the skills. After that time, they'll have had several days for their skills to decay, which is the 2nd consideration in determining what they're best at. But certainly, additional training will make your assessment all the more certain.
So far, I see that one of my rookies is going to have problems with hitting skill. That tells me right off the bat he probably won't be a huge home run hitter. Probably could put up decent power numbers (assuming his power training proves fruitful), but wouldn't be among my team's leaders. That's good b/c I need guys to get me singles and doubles, not fly balls in the Fox Stadium...
But this is just the way I'm approaching it. There's always more than one way to do anything.
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Damn, I think I may have just maxed out a guy (Earl) in throwing. Hadn't done that before. The furthest he threw (that I noticed) was 180 feet. But since several on my team is within 5 points of Earl, I'm in pretty good shape in this category.
10-03-02, 11:26 PM
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Lets go Who's Zoo, its after 12:00! Come to the BrickYard
Lets go Who's Zoo, its after 12:00! Come to the BrickYard
finishing up a game.
don't forget the time frame is 12:00 pacific time.
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Smallball is evil. Fun, but evil.
Not only is it taking up a good portion of my conscience life, day-dreaming about Don Vito hitting homers, but now it's taking up part of my subconscience life.
The past three days in a row I've had dreams about smallball.
But today I took a nap on the couch and I talked about it in my sleep. I vaguely remember doing so, but my dad who was sitting in the chair nearby confirmed it.
I had pushed myself up on my pillows, yelled "NINE RUNS IN ONE INNING," then laid down again.
That's normal....right? I mean, all of you have Smallball dreams too...don't you?
Not only is it taking up a good portion of my conscience life, day-dreaming about Don Vito hitting homers, but now it's taking up part of my subconscience life.
The past three days in a row I've had dreams about smallball.
But today I took a nap on the couch and I talked about it in my sleep. I vaguely remember doing so, but my dad who was sitting in the chair nearby confirmed it.I had pushed myself up on my pillows, yelled "NINE RUNS IN ONE INNING," then laid down again.
That's normal....right? I mean, all of you have Smallball dreams too...don't you?
10-04-02, 01:18 AM
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damn you Who's Zoo and your big left field walled stadium! It cost me a 3 run homerun in the first and the game, you won 2-0
damn you Who's Zoo and your big left field walled stadium! It cost me a 3 run homerun in the first and the game, you won 2-0
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Originally posted by WhoGirl
Smallball is evil. Fun, but evil.
Not only is it taking up a good portion of my conscience life, day-dreaming about Don Vito hitting homers, but now it's taking up part of my subconscience life.
The past three days in a row I've had dreams about smallball. But today I took a nap on the couch and I talked about it in my sleep. I vaguely remember doing so, but my dad who was sitting in the chair nearby confirmed it.
I had pushed myself up on my pillows, yelled "NINE RUNS IN ONE INNING," then laid down again.
That's normal....right? I mean, all of you have Smallball dreams too...don't you?
Smallball is evil. Fun, but evil.
Not only is it taking up a good portion of my conscience life, day-dreaming about Don Vito hitting homers, but now it's taking up part of my subconscience life.
The past three days in a row I've had dreams about smallball.
But today I took a nap on the couch and I talked about it in my sleep. I vaguely remember doing so, but my dad who was sitting in the chair nearby confirmed it.I had pushed myself up on my pillows, yelled "NINE RUNS IN ONE INNING," then laid down again.
That's normal....right? I mean, all of you have Smallball dreams too...don't you?
10-04-02, 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by Thor Simpson
How did he lose a run after the first? That IS a crappy stadium
How did he lose a run after the first? That IS a crappy stadium
10-04-02, 05:22 AM
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Originally posted by whotony
i'll be there in a minute or so .
finishing up a game.
don't forget the time frame is 12:00 pacific time.
i'll be there in a minute or so .
finishing up a game.
don't forget the time frame is 12:00 pacific time.
10-04-02, 06:45 AM
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Oh I know the time frame, I was just anxious to see how my guys did in the new stadium for the 1st time. Did you watch the game?
Oh I know the time frame, I was just anxious to see how my guys did in the new stadium for the 1st time. Did you watch the game?
Ill be at work in 15 or 20 minutes and catch you on IM then
we can try to work out the games to play back to back, so we can watch.. if you want
although, Id rather hold off on playing till around lunch.. if thats cool
10-04-02, 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by dancinns
That's still not as bad as dreaming about programming. I've done that a couple of times trying to figure out how to code something.
That's still not as bad as dreaming about programming. I've done that a couple of times trying to figure out how to code something.
