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Old 10-08-13, 01:55 PM
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ABC developing Alternative History series set in America (Lost Revolutionary War)

Seems like a interesting concept. Hopefully ABC doesn't mess it up

http://www.deadline.com/2013/09/abc-...e-development/

What if Americans had no Independence Day to celebrate? A drama project in development at ABC answers that question by building an alternative reality where the 13 colonies lost the 1775-83 Revolutionary War. Titled The Thirteen, the contemporary drama takes place in a world in which the colonies lost their bid for independence, and America is still fighting the British for freedom. The provocative project hails from Lionsgate TV and former Lionsgate Films head of production-turned-producer Allison Shearmur, who has a deal at the studio. It is being written by feature scribes Jim Agnew & Sean Keller, who penned the upcoming Nicolas Cage starrer Tokarev. This marks Shearmur’s second TV sale though Lionsgate this week — she also is producing an American Psycho sequel series which is in development at FX. Another drama series, NBC’s Revolution, also explores a world where the U.S. does not exist, broken up by a massive power shutdown. Agnew and Keller are with Paradigm and Industry Entertainment.
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I'd see this if it was set in the 1800s and the colonies were still fighting for independence. But if this is contemporary, and we are still colonies of the British Empire, that just stretches the limits of plausibility.
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Re: ABC developing Alternative History series set in America (Lost Revolutionary War)

Television shies away from shows set in pre-Civil War America because it would mean a virtually all-white cast. Expect a very alternative take on historical reality from this series.
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Television shies away from shows set in pre-Civil War America because it would mean a virtually all-white cast. Expect a very alternative take on historical reality from this series.
But it's not going to be set in pre-Civil War America. It's going to be set in modern times.

We're supposed to believe that the colonists lost the Revolutionary War and continued to lose to the British Empire for the next 230 years.
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Re: ABC developing Alternative History series set in America (Lost Revolutionary War)

Will the British still line up in a straight line like a shooting gallery when they attack? Oh, well they play the drums too?
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I've pretty much given up on new network dramas. Most of them either suck, or get cancelled after one season, often both. Give me a solid two seasons and I'll start watching.

I think this could be an interesting show if it takes place at some point in the past, but the idea we're still fighting the British 250 years later is kind of silly.
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Re: ABC developing Alternative History series set in America (Lost Revolutionary War)

Alternative American History sounds like something that would air on Fox News.
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Re: ABC developing Alternative History series set in America (Lost Revolutionary War)

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Alternative American History sounds like something that would air on Fox News.
Or on the Seattle Channel.
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Re: ABC developing Alternative History series set in America (Lost Revolutionary War)

"The Thirteen", so no new colonies to the west? The colonies couldn't break free during either World War?
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Re: ABC developing Alternative History series set in America (Lost Revolutionary War)

I love Alt History but a network treatment of it will surely be lame.
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Re: ABC developing Alternative History series set in America (Lost Revolutionary War)

Originally Posted by dalbowski
"The Thirteen", so no new colonies to the west? The colonies couldn't break free during either World War?
Who's to say there is a a WWI or II let alone a Civil War. That's why it's alternate history.
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Who's to say there is a a WWI or II let alone a Civil War. That's why it's alternate history.
I would think that the events that led to WW1 would not have been impacted by whether or not the USA existed.
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Re: ABC developing Alternative History series set in America (Lost Revolutionary War)

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I would think that the events that led to WW1 would not have been impacted by whether or not the USA existed.
Maybe the British used their colonies in America to fuel conquest in Europe, that's the great thing about alternative history
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Re: ABC developing Alternative History series set in America (Lost Revolutionary War)

this sounds very interesting.
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Sounds like a DC Elseworld story or a Marvel What if . It could work if they do it right.
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Sounds like a Harry Turtledove novel
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Re: ABC developing Alternative History series set in America (Lost Revolutionary War)

What ever happened to that Ridley Scott-produced TV miniseries of Philip K. Dick's The Man in the High Castle that was supposed to be happening? That can't get made, but this can?
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Re: ABC developing Alternative History series set in America (Lost Revolutionary War)

Originally Posted by dalbowski
I would think that the events that led to WW1 would not have been impacted by whether or not the USA existed.
Probably not, but the outcome of "The War to End All Wars" would have played out differently; the Ottoman Empire would still have fallen, and the Bolshevik Revolution still would have occurred, but without the involvement of the US, England and France would not scored such a decisive victory over Germany and A-H and it might not have led to the rise of Hitler and the Third Reich. Which would mean no WWII, no Israel, and no Cold War.

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
Television shies away from shows set in pre-Civil War America because it would mean a virtually all-white cast. Expect a very alternative take on historical reality from this series.
England might have banned slavery before the mid-nineteenth century, so there wouldn't have been a Civil War. It would be interesting to see how race relations would play out over history in such a scenario.

Originally Posted by dalbowski
"The Thirteen", so no new colonies to the west? The colonies couldn't break free during either World War?
The area to the west, namely the territory acquired from the Louisiana Purchase, might still belong to France.

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