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Old 03-09-12 | 06:59 PM
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Are there any deliberately gay pop songs?

So, what I'm talking about is in pop songs when male singers either use pronouns like "she" or "her" and females sing about men. Are there any that specifically talk about a man when it's a male singer?

I was just curious because Adam Lambert's "What Do You Want From Me" came on the radio and he never uses any pronouns. I suppose making it universal makes it more appealing to everyone.
Old 03-09-12 | 07:21 PM
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Sure, there are tons. Depends on how you define a pop song though. I suspect what you're really asking is if there have been any hit songs.
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Re: Are there any deliberately gay pop songs?

Sophie B Hawkins "Damn, I wish I was your lover" includes the following lyric..

I sat on a mountainside with peace of mind
And I lay by the ocean
Makin' love to her with visions clear
Walked the days with no one near
And I return as chained and bound to you
Old 03-09-12 | 08:50 PM
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Donovan's "To Try for the Sun"

Songs by Bronski Beat
Old 03-09-12 | 08:52 PM
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Crimson & Clover - covered by Joan Jett

"...and when she comes walking over - I think I can love her, Crimson & Clover"
Old 03-09-12 | 09:31 PM
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Re: Are there any deliberately gay pop songs?

You mean aside from Right Said Fred and Gerardo?

I've always liked Electrelane's cover of Springsteen's "I'm on Fire"...



"Tell me now baby is he good to you, can he do to you the things I do?"
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Ani Difranco's cover of Dylan's "Most of the Time"
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" 'scuse me while I kiss this guy..."

Oh right, not a pop song
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Prince...."If I was your Girlfriend"
Old 03-10-12 | 03:26 AM
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Re: Are there any deliberately gay pop songs?

Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Prince...."If I was your Girlfriend"
I don't think so. The song rather seems to be about a man's jealousy over the fact that although he and his girlfriend are in a romantic relationship, she nevertheless remains closer to her female friends than him. He's wondering whether their relationship would be better if he was her girlfriend, as she would presumably then share more with him. Yet, the last part of the song appears to indicate exactly why their relationship doesn't work like he's hoping.

As for PopcornTreeCt's question, it's interesting that while I can think of female artists singing about women (in romantic or sexual terms), I find it much harder to come up with any male singers specifically singing about men. I wonder if that says something about my music collection or the society we live in. But openly gay (male) singers seem to prefer to sing in a way that allows for a free interpretation of what gender the person really is that they are singing to/about.

One song that came to my mind though is David Bowie's John, I'm Only Dancing, which I think is usually interpreted as the singer trying to convince his lover called John that while he is dancing with this girl and while she turns him on, she really means nothing to him. But the song does seem to have a number of other possible interpretations as well.
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the herd- something strange
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Tom Robinson was "Glad to be Gay"

Not quite what the OP specified but this thread is incomplete without reference to:

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FWIW I believe that Mr Robinson is now married with several kids.
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Re: Are there any deliberately gay pop songs?

Originally Posted by mickey65
Crimson & Clover - covered by Joan Jett

"...and when she comes walking over - I think I can love her, Crimson & Clover"
That's a cover of a Tommy James song. He also sang about "her". She just didn't change the lyrics. As for why she didn't change the lyrics...
Old 03-10-12 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mickey65
Crimson & Clover - covered by Joan Jett

"...and when she comes walking over - I think I can love her, Crimson & Clover"
She's just singing the lyrics as originally written. I've heard a lot of singers do that. Not to say she didn't mean it.
Pet Shop Boys have a few on their albums.
How about I Kissed a Girl?
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Re: Are there any deliberately gay pop songs?

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I think that's another one that's not overtly gay--it just kind of depends on the listener's perspective and what they bring to the song.
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Re: Are there any deliberately gay pop songs?

Originally Posted by Pizza
She's just singing the lyrics as originally written. I've heard a lot of singers do that. Not to say she didn't mean it.
Yes, and when they do switch the pronouns sometimes the gender change doesn't work as well.

Originally Posted by Pizza
How about I Kissed a Girl?
That's what came to mind for me.

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Re: Are there any deliberately gay pop songs?

Interesting, I didn't know about a number of these songs.

Originally Posted by vili
As for PopcornTreeCt's question, it's interesting that while I can think of female artists singing about women (in romantic or sexual terms), I find it much harder to come up with any male singers specifically singing about men. I wonder if that says something about my music collection or the society we live in. But openly gay (male) singers seem to prefer to sing in a way that allows for a free interpretation of what gender the person really is that they are singing to/about.

One song that came to my mind though is David Bowie's John, I'm Only Dancing, which I think is usually interpreted as the singer trying to convince his lover called John that while he is dancing with this girl and while she turns him on, she really means nothing to him. But the song does seem to have a number of other possible interpretations as well.
That's pretty much what I was getting at. It does seem a little more common when it's a girl singing about a girl but a lot rarer when it's about a guy singing about another guy. I don't think Elton John or Freddie Mercury ever had songs specifically mentioning other men.
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Re: Are there any deliberately gay pop songs?

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
I was just curious because Adam Lambert's "What Do You Want From Me" came on the radio and he never uses any pronouns.
No gender-specific pronouns, you mean.
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Re: Are there any deliberately gay pop songs?

Originally Posted by vili
I don't think so. The song rather seems to be about a man's jealousy over the fact that although he and his girlfriend are in a romantic relationship, she nevertheless remains closer to her female friends than him. He's wondering whether their relationship would be better if he was her girlfriend, as she would presumably then share more with him. Yet, the last part of the song appears to indicate exactly why their relationship doesn't work like he's hoping.
Fair enough
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I'd say that half of all love songs are gender neutral anyway
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Re: Are there any deliberately gay pop songs?

Those two "I kissed a girl" songs are about as gay as a lipstick lesbian porn video. Everything to do with tittliation and selling records and nothing to do with homosexuality.


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