Tim Burton Suckers America Out of $120 Million: Weekend Box Office 3/5 - 3/7
03-06-10 | 03:12 AM
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Tim Burton Suckers America Out of $120 Million: Weekend Box Office 3/5 - 3/7
After mediocre reviews, Alice in Wonderland will go onto have the biggest March release yet.
Ugh.
Despite only losing 293 locations overall, Avatar lost nearly 70-80% of it's 3D locations this weekend. Most theaters who were playing the film in 3D only are now playing it in 2D due to Alice taking up most 3D screens this weekend.
It's also important to note that prior to this weekend, Avatar's 3D locations consisted of 70-80% of its total screen count (its peak total of locations was 3,461 in week three). Alice's 3D locations only consist of 50-60% of its total screen count (its total locations plus screen count is significantly higher than that of Avatar during its peak).
Originally Posted by Nikki Finke
FRIDAY 11:25 PM UPDATE: Disney's Alice In Wonderland is a monster hit. It clearly becomes the best March release ever with $45 million on Friday. If that holds up, the Tim Burton-directed, Johnny Depp starring fantasy flick could have a $115M-$120M opening weekend for the biggest 3D pic debut ever. (These numbers are blowing away Avatar's first weekend.) The only other major newcomer this weekend was Overture's Brooklyn's Finest directed by Anton Fuqua and starring Richard Gere, Don Cheadle and Ethan Hawke opened like most R-rated action films: it had a $5.2M Friday for a likely $14.5M weekend.
Here's the Top 10 as of Friday. (Numbers will be refined in the morning.)
1. Alice In Wonderland (Disney) NEW [3,728 Theaters]
Friday $45M, Estimated Weekend $120M
2. Brooklyn's Finest (Overture) NEW [1,936 Theaters]
Friday $5.2M, Estimated Weekend $14.5M
3. Shutter Island (Paramount) Week 3 [3,178 Theaters]
Friday $4.0M, Estimated Weekend $13.5M, Estimated Cume $95.5M
4. Cop Out (Warner Bros) Week 2 [3,150 Theaters]
Friday $3.0M (-50%), Estimated Weekend $9.5M, Estimated Cume $32.2M
5. The Crazies (Overture) Week 2 [2,479 Theaters]
Friday $2.5M (-58%), Estimated Weekend $7.5M, Estimated Cume $27.4M
6. Valentine's Day (Warner Bros) Week 4 [3,040 Theaters]
Friday $1.4M, Estimated Weekend $4.5M, Estimated Cume $106.4M
7. Avatar (Fox) [2,163 Theaters] Week 12
Friday $1.3M, Estimated Weekend $5.5M, Estimated Cume $717.7M
8. Percy Jackson (Fox) Week 4 [2,994 Theaters]
Friday $1.3M, Estimated Weekend $5.2M, Estimated Cume $78.0M
9. Dear John (Sony) Week 5 [2,496 Theaters]
Friday $1.0M, Estimated Weekend $3.2M, Estimated Cume $76.8M
10. The Wolfman (Universal) Week 4 [1,829 Theaters]
Friday $500K, Estimated Weekend $1.7M, Estimated Cume $60.4
Here's the Top 10 as of Friday. (Numbers will be refined in the morning.)
1. Alice In Wonderland (Disney) NEW [3,728 Theaters]
Friday $45M, Estimated Weekend $120M
2. Brooklyn's Finest (Overture) NEW [1,936 Theaters]
Friday $5.2M, Estimated Weekend $14.5M
3. Shutter Island (Paramount) Week 3 [3,178 Theaters]
Friday $4.0M, Estimated Weekend $13.5M, Estimated Cume $95.5M
4. Cop Out (Warner Bros) Week 2 [3,150 Theaters]
Friday $3.0M (-50%), Estimated Weekend $9.5M, Estimated Cume $32.2M
5. The Crazies (Overture) Week 2 [2,479 Theaters]
Friday $2.5M (-58%), Estimated Weekend $7.5M, Estimated Cume $27.4M
6. Valentine's Day (Warner Bros) Week 4 [3,040 Theaters]
Friday $1.4M, Estimated Weekend $4.5M, Estimated Cume $106.4M
7. Avatar (Fox) [2,163 Theaters] Week 12
Friday $1.3M, Estimated Weekend $5.5M, Estimated Cume $717.7M
8. Percy Jackson (Fox) Week 4 [2,994 Theaters]
Friday $1.3M, Estimated Weekend $5.2M, Estimated Cume $78.0M
9. Dear John (Sony) Week 5 [2,496 Theaters]
Friday $1.0M, Estimated Weekend $3.2M, Estimated Cume $76.8M
10. The Wolfman (Universal) Week 4 [1,829 Theaters]
Friday $500K, Estimated Weekend $1.7M, Estimated Cume $60.4
Despite only losing 293 locations overall, Avatar lost nearly 70-80% of it's 3D locations this weekend. Most theaters who were playing the film in 3D only are now playing it in 2D due to Alice taking up most 3D screens this weekend.
It's also important to note that prior to this weekend, Avatar's 3D locations consisted of 70-80% of its total screen count (its peak total of locations was 3,461 in week three). Alice's 3D locations only consist of 50-60% of its total screen count (its total locations plus screen count is significantly higher than that of Avatar during its peak).
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03-06-10 | 03:34 AM
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I guess people didn't read the bad reviews before heading out to see Alice. No big surprise really; it happens all the time now. This is why shitty movies get huge opening weekends and potential sequels lined up before the movie is even done in theaters. Too bad.
03-06-10 | 03:41 AM
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Re: Tim Burton Suckers America Out of $120 Million: Weekend Box Office 3/5 - 3/7
A few people I know have raved about the movie on their Facebook / Twitter.
These people are clearly morons and I would never trust their cinematic taste.
No, I haven't seen the film and after the beating it's getting in its respective thread, I probably will be waiting for the eventual $5 Disney BD.
These people are clearly morons and I would never trust their cinematic taste.
No, I haven't seen the film and after the beating it's getting in its respective thread, I probably will be waiting for the eventual $5 Disney BD.
03-06-10 | 03:47 AM
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http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1000...in_wonderland/
53%
03-06-10 | 03:53 AM
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The reviews don't look like they've been that bad.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1000...in_wonderland/
53%
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1000...in_wonderland/
53%
I don't recognize almost any of the positive reviewers on RT; and the actual positive reviews seem to make massive exceptions because Tim Burton is so "quirky."
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03-06-10 | 04:24 AM
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I dunno, compared to some of the 20-30% ratings that a lot of the summer blockbusters were getting its middle of the line to me. IMDB is sitting at 7.5. Just saying that its not like the movie has been universally panned.
03-06-10 | 07:56 AM
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Re: Tim Burton Suckers America Out of $120 Million: Weekend Box Office 3/5 - 3/7
Besides the 3D being an utter crock of shit in IMAX (no dimensionality), I liked the film, Vegas Boy. Sure, it's got a tad too much Narnia thrown into the recipe but the world that Burton creates in "Underland" was amazing (if anything, Burton is a master of design). None of the performances are Oscar caliber but I thought it was better than a straight-up remake of the original story for the most part...
The part that brings it down to a 2 1/2 to 3 star level from a 4 to 5 star is ...
I wish somewhere would show it in 4K 2D as I'd really just love to stare at the design without constantly squinting at the 3D effect (I'm terrible at seeing 3D... especially in IMAX). Might see it again at the Alamo Drafthouse in RealD 4K for this reason. I bet this film will look wonderful on BD.
The part that brings it down to a 2 1/2 to 3 star level from a 4 to 5 star is ...
Spoiler:
I wish somewhere would show it in 4K 2D as I'd really just love to stare at the design without constantly squinting at the 3D effect (I'm terrible at seeing 3D... especially in IMAX). Might see it again at the Alamo Drafthouse in RealD 4K for this reason. I bet this film will look wonderful on BD.
03-06-10 | 08:30 AM
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People are overplaying the "negative" response to the movie, it has mixed reviews and is not being flat-out shat upon.
This isn't Transformers 2 we're talking about.
This isn't Transformers 2 we're talking about.
03-06-10 | 09:28 AM
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Wow....you folks have to get off your high horses. Who gives a fuck if you didnt like it..lots of people did, it did well, mission accomplished for burton/depp and Disney.
03-06-10 | 09:29 AM
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Shutter Island is still holding steady. Looks like it'll get to $120-$125 mil and be a nice solid hit for Paramount.
The Wolfman reached $60 mil!!!! I guess it'll actually be able to double its opening, but barely. At least this means the BD will probably be out sooner than later.
The Wolfman reached $60 mil!!!! I guess it'll actually be able to double its opening, but barely. At least this means the BD will probably be out sooner than later.
03-06-10 | 09:35 AM
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03-06-10 | 09:54 AM
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The Wolfman reached $60 mil!!!! I guess it'll actually be able to double its opening, but barely. At least this means the BD will probably be out sooner than later.
I am sad a little that the Master:Rick Baker did such amazing work on this flim and not enough people really seen it.
I second the Blu-Ray of this should rock (extra's with Rick Baker please!).
The Wolfman reached $60 mil!!!! I guess it'll actually be able to double its opening, but barely. At least this means the BD will probably be out sooner than later.
I am sad a little that the Master:Rick Baker did such amazing work on this flim and not enough people really seen it.
I second the Blu-Ray of this should rock (extra's with Rick Baker please!).
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03-06-10 | 10:00 AM
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Well I love Burton and all, but I'm going to try and see Avatar in 3D again before seeing Alice.
03-06-10 | 10:07 AM
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So now producing trailers people like enough to see a movie is "suckering" people out of their money?
03-06-10 | 10:23 AM
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I figured AIW would do $75, $80m tops... never would have guessed a $100m+ opening. I have no interest in seeing it, but obviously lots of people did. Although, I'd rather see Burton try something new again. He hasn't done much for me since Sleepy Hollow (aside from Sweeney Todd, which seems like an anomaly now).
03-06-10 | 10:58 AM
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From the trailers I seen in 3D it seems the 3d in Alice feels very gimmicky with things getting shoved at the camera, and other scenes didnt feel like they were shot to be in 3D so it was hard see what was going on, on screen.
03-06-10 | 11:16 AM
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Don't understand the "suckering" argument. I've seen trailers for weeks, months now, and they all seem to be pretty representative of what the movie is going to be. It's not my cup of tea, but the reviews do seem generally mixed, not horrific. I'm scratching my head here trying to figure out the hate.
03-06-10 | 11:39 AM
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1) I love it how people are all up in arms as we're trashing a film that's making a lot of money. "WAHHHH. People need to stop bitching and moaning. WAHHHH."
Have you never seen a Box Office thread here on DVD Talk before? The actual serious, strategic talks about box office are few and far between.
2) Here is what everyone (besides Austin Boy Lutter
) said about Alice in the film's thread a few posts down:
3) To make matters worse, our lovely own DVD Talk reviewers said:
So who do I trust:
The DVD Talk members and reviewers who have film taste similar to mine?
OR
The mainstream reviewers who are giving Fresh reviews on RT like:
Hmmm.
Have you never seen a Box Office thread here on DVD Talk before? The actual serious, strategic talks about box office are few and far between.
2) Here is what everyone (besides Austin Boy Lutter
) said about Alice in the film's thread a few posts down:
Not any fun, this movie. Completely literal, mostly uninteresting characters, and a style that was a bit too drab for my taste.
The movie is such a mess that it makes coherent criticism difficult, because you want to point to everything at once as part of the problem.
Remember those old fashion electric football games where you put your "players" in some formation on either side of the line of scrimmage, and then the playing field vibrates so that the player move in some random manner in the hopes of advancing the player with the football? There are some scenes in the movie just like that, it felt aimless at times, it was totally a dud of a movie.
So. Fucking. Boring.
Joyless, frantic, utterly forgettable. Gets the spirit of "Alice" all wrong, because it's way too preoccupied with action scenes that feel cut-and-pasted out of "Chronicles of Narnia."
I wanted to love it. I'm a huge Burton fan. But this movie is devoid of energy and humor and plods along to its conclusion.
Originally Posted by Tyler Foster, one and a half star review
Alice in Wonderland is packed with the usual Tim Burton Visuals® and a freshly unwrapped Johnny Depp Performance™, but it's also dull as dirt, without a single speck of charm or whimsy to be found.
Originally Posted by Brian Orndorf, two star review
"Alice in Wonderland" is a Burton vehicle with four flat tires, attempting to pull off a tricky juggling act of whimsy and violence, using author Lewis Carroll's legendary novel as a playground for the blandest of fantasy visions. It's a drab feature film molded with garish CGI and acted as if there wasn't a director on set at all. It's far from deplorable, but it does represent the filmmaker at his most persistently ineffective.
Originally Posted by Jamie S. Rich, two and a half star review
I've only been out of Alice in Wonderland for a couple of hours, and I remember very little of it. No one scene stands out, nothing makes me think, "That was cool, I'd really like to see that again."
The DVD Talk members and reviewers who have film taste similar to mine?
OR
The mainstream reviewers who are giving Fresh reviews on RT like:
Originally Posted by Spirituality and Practice
An exotic adventure tale about a young woman's trip to an alternate reality and the testing of her will power, resourcefulness, and courage in the face of weirdness and danger.
03-06-10 | 11:47 AM
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Updated numbers from BOM:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/c...0-03-05&p=.htm
BOM states that Crazy Heart took the #10 spot, kicking Wolfman right out of the top ten.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/c...0-03-05&p=.htm
BOM states that Crazy Heart took the #10 spot, kicking Wolfman right out of the top ten.
03-06-10 | 11:49 AM
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If you trust Brian Orndorf, that's your own problem!
Plus, no one is "up in arms"
Hyperbole much? Just pointing out that the movie is hardly being panned across the board.
Plus, no one is "up in arms"
Hyperbole much? Just pointing out that the movie is hardly being panned across the board.
03-06-10 | 11:50 AM
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