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Old 02-05-08 | 09:31 AM
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New Xbox 360 Originals: Black, NG Black, Pirates

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On February 11, the 360's Xbox Originals will see another small update to its still-slender selection, this time adding Ninja Gaiden Black, Sid Meier's Pirates!, and the Criterion FPS Black to the roster.

Pirates! is the 2004 re-make of Sid Meier's original 1987 adventure game, which sees players taking on the roles of pirates (duh) in the Spanish Main. Black is Criterion's adrenaline-fueled last-gen FPS, with destructible environments and a healthy amount of explosions. Tecmo's Ninja Gaiden Black added a number of features to the original Xbox title, including the condescending "Ninja Dog" easy mode.

All good additions, to be sure, but with Valentine's Day coming only three days later, couldn't they have at least included something a bit more romantic? Like, say, Beyond Good & Evil?
I got to the last boss on the original Xbox Ninja Gaiden, which I felt was enough of an accomplishment I rented NG Black, but didn't get too far. I might pick that up again. And I never got around to playing Black - what's the general opinion on that? I seem to remember it got decent reviews.
Old 02-05-08 | 09:36 AM
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Ninja Gaiden Black might be the first Xbox Original that's cheaper than getting the real disc.
Old 02-05-08 | 09:36 AM
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Black is Burnout transplanted to a shooter.

It's fast/furious with lots of big weapons killing lots of things, sadly it's also a bit repetative. Still fun, though. You should be able to find a used copy from EB cheaper than $15.
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Black wow love that game
Old 02-05-08 | 09:54 AM
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Pirates is one of the 3 original XBOX games I never sold. I don't think I'll pay for it again but hearing this makes me want to play it again.
Old 02-05-08 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RichC2
Black is Burnout transplanted to a shooter.

It's fast/furious with lots of big weapons killing lots of things, sadly it's also a bit repetative. Still fun, though. You should be able to find a used copy from EB cheaper than $15.
See, that just sounds great to me. I might look into picking it up on disc, but there is something to be said for just downloading it and having it available whenever I want without having to get off the couch
Old 02-05-08 | 10:02 AM
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See, that just sounds great to me. I might look into picking it up on disc, but there is something to be said for just downloading it and having it available whenever I want without having to get off the couch
I actually tend to agree, but 4gb on a 12gb drive is a bit steep (since 8 seems to be eaten from the start) (I bought psychonauts as well)

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Not the best video quality, but the game is one of the best looking of last gen.

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Here are the BC issues with each game:

* BLACK: There are some minor lighting issues with non-player characters.

* Ninja Gaiden Black: No audio is heard during the display of the publisher logo. There is a minor performance drop during the Alma cutscene.

* Sid Meier's Pirates!: There is minor stuttering during the introductory video, and there is some texture tearing and instances of textures disappearing in the game
Old 02-05-08 | 10:07 AM
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Ninja Gaiden Black?!? Hell Yeah! I got room for you on my 120 GB HD and i have over 8,000 pts to burn thru. What better way to waste some pts than on a game i'm never gonna beat.
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I think i'll actually pick up Ninja Gaiden Black since I never played it.
Old 02-05-08 | 11:52 AM
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Black was amazing.
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Black 2 Im Ready For It
Old 02-05-08 | 12:02 PM
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Wasn't NG Black supposed to be an easier version of Ninja Gaiden?
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Wasn't NG Black supposed to be an easier version of Ninja Gaiden?
It's Ninja Gaiden with the Hurricane Pack downloadable content added. I dunno if the easy Ninja Dog difficulty that is unlocked if you die too much is in the original, but by no means is NG Black easy.

I've played both Pirates and NG Black exclusively on a BC 360 and never noticed any problems.
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Originally Posted by bahgee
Wasn't NG Black supposed to be an easier version of Ninja Gaiden?
The Hurricane Pack makes the normal difficulty level harder. They did add an easy difficulty level though.
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Originally Posted by bahgee
Wasn't NG Black supposed to be an easier version of Ninja Gaiden?
They added a new weapon and a lower difficulty level. But you could still play it on the hardcore settings.

I am no longer the gamer I used to be, but I really "got" the first Xbox Ninja Gaiden. I understood that every single enemy could kill me if I didn't play smart. I started treating almost every encounter as a "fighting game" round - lots of parries, blocks, dodges, etc. It takes a while to fight your way through that way, but I quickly improved my skills and made it all the way to the final boss. Though I was so tired of it by then that when I died the first few times I just said "fuck it" and shut it off. I didn't need to see a cutscene to feel a sense of accomplishment. Just getting there was feeling enough.

I think I'm going to get both Ninja Gaiden Black. I've a hankering to get back into that game. And Black sounds right up my alley as well.
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Ninja Gaiden Black is great game! I think you can pick it up at Circuit City for $16.99 if they still have it in stock. The last boss kicked my ass the first time I fought him but the second time he went down pretty easily on normal difficulty. I was planning on beating it on the harder difficulty but I never got around to it. I want to unlock all the weapons / costumes...
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Does anyone actually pay for these "originals" downloads?
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I bought Psychonauts, having it on the HDD is super convenient, shame theres so little space (I won't be upgrading to the 120 for a while). So yes.
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Black is a great FPS. Not the greatest story ever, but the environmental destruction is pretty badass. It's the type of game you'll love after a bad day at work.
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Originally Posted by Jeremy517
The Hurricane Pack makes the normal difficulty level harder. They did add an easy difficulty level though.
The Hurricane Pack doesn't really make normal mode harder. Most of the changes in the Hurricane Pack only affect hard mode and higher. It adds new, harder enemy encounters and makes some of the bosses faster. The flying swallow move (which was VERY overpowered in the original game) was heavily toned down. Also, every enemy was given a guard break move.

The only things from the above that were added to normal mode was the toned down flying swallow move and every enemy has a guard break. The new enemy encounters and harder bosses were not added to normal mode.

NGB also added two new difficulty modes to the original three. The original NG had normal, hard, and very hard difficulty modes. NGB adds an easy mode (ninja dog mode) as already said, and it also adds an insanely hard mode called master ninja mode.

Let me tell you, master ninja mode is brutal as hell. I am an excellent Ninja Gaiden player, and I actually consider normal mode to be easy. I can beat very hard without much difficulty. Yet I have never beaten master ninja. The Alma battle on master ninja kicks me in the nuts every time.

The reason that most gamers find NG so hard is because they treat it just like any other action game. IE they button mash and don't really pay attention to what is going on. For 99.9% of action games, you can do this and still beat the game because all the common grunt enemies are so pathetically easy and only the bosses pose any real challenge. However, like Draven said, every single enemy in NG is deadly. If you button mash, you will lose plain and simple.
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Does anyone actually pay for these "originals" downloads?
What are you implying?
Old 02-05-08 | 10:22 PM
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I am confused, are these new xbox games made backwards compatable? or games going to be on xbox live arcade?
Old 02-05-08 | 11:24 PM
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Neither.

Xbox Originals is like Xbox Live Arcade for original Xbox games. They're $15 a piece and feature no extra features or achievement points.

It's a convenience thing as the games are already Backwards Compatible with the 360 -- you could just as easily go to EB and buy them.
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I downloaded Crimson Skies so i could play couple online matches for old times sake. After 20 minutes of trying to find a game i gave up and forgot i even had it downloaded on my HD.

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