HD DVD calibration question
#1
Thread Starter
DVD Talk Special Edition
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,465
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Indianapolis, IN
HD DVD calibration question
I'm connecting the RCA player to a Toshiba CRT display via HDMI (analog adio). I don't have DVE or AVIA, so I'm using the THX Optimizer. On the blackness test I can only see 7 boxes of black not 10 or the shaddow. Is this black crush? Anyone have any suggestions?
Oh, RCA has only released firmware 1.4 so far.
Thanks
Oh, RCA has only released firmware 1.4 so far.
Thanks
#2
Banned by request
There is btb and wtw clipping on these players over HDMI with any firmware under 2.0.
Head over here to download the 2.0 "bootleg": http://rapidshare.de/files/30453167/...mware.nrg.html
Head over here to download the 2.0 "bootleg": http://rapidshare.de/files/30453167/...mware.nrg.html
#3
Thread Starter
DVD Talk Special Edition
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,465
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Indianapolis, IN
Thanks Super. I'm a bit nervous about using a "bootleg". I just don't want to mess up my system. I know they are techically the same but I wonder if being an RCA would affect the bootleg's compatability.
#4
Banned by request
FWIW, I downloaded the bootleg the day it was put up, and had no problems with it. The official version came out and had the same numbers, so I never bothered to change to the official. Not one single problem, and many tangible benefits.
I suggest going to AVS and reading up on people who have used the bootleg on their RCA. Either that or live with the clipping until RCA updates their servers.
I suggest going to AVS and reading up on people who have used the bootleg on their RCA. Either that or live with the clipping until RCA updates their servers.
#5
DVD Talk Special Edition
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,411
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Mobile, AL
I did the 2.0 "bootleg" because my ethernet was acting weird. worked great! Any funny enough, it fixed my ethernet 
FYI: FW update via disc takes 10-15 minutes, it takes hours over ethernet for some reason.

FYI: FW update via disc takes 10-15 minutes, it takes hours over ethernet for some reason.
#6
DVD Talk Legend
Originally Posted by ShagMan
FYI: FW update via disc takes 10-15 minutes, it takes hours over ethernet for some reason.
#7
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 6,830
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Mpls, MN
You may not find a DVD to give a perfect calibration once you switch to playing an HDDVD since they use different color systems. If it doesn't work great for you, try mixing in the HD test screens from HDNet, if you get that channel. That wouldn't be perfect, either since it comes through a different machine, cable box or whatever, but it's an option.
Hopefully there will be an HDDVD calibration disc sometime soon.
Hopefully there will be an HDDVD calibration disc sometime soon.
#9
Thread Starter
DVD Talk Special Edition
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,465
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Indianapolis, IN
Just installed firmware 2.0. Thanks again Super. But, I seem to still be having Black clipping issues according to the THX Optimser. Any ideas?
#10
Banned by request
For some people 2.0 didn't resolve the clipping, for others it did. The only other option is to use component, which works fine for HD DVDs, but you cannot upconvert your SD DVDs like that.
#11
DVD Talk Limited Edition
I just ordered a Toshiba player and it's on its way so I've been reading up today. I'm a little concerned about this black crush issue since I've been seeing quite a few people talking about it being a significant problem when going HDMI>DVI with 2.0 but not with 1.2.
I don't know what version my unit will arrive with but the DVI thing worries me and the fact you can't revert back from 2.0. I have a Mits 65819 with component 1080i in only so it won't be an issue at first. Later this fall I should have an upgrade coming that will give me DVI on the TV and I'd like to use it so I can get the SD upconversion.
This leaves me with the puzzle as to if I should upgrade my firmware or not. What advantages does it give to a component user?
I don't know what version my unit will arrive with but the DVI thing worries me and the fact you can't revert back from 2.0. I have a Mits 65819 with component 1080i in only so it won't be an issue at first. Later this fall I should have an upgrade coming that will give me DVI on the TV and I'd like to use it so I can get the SD upconversion.
This leaves me with the puzzle as to if I should upgrade my firmware or not. What advantages does it give to a component user?
#13
Thread Starter
DVD Talk Special Edition
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,465
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Indianapolis, IN
Looks like I'm going to go w/componant as it gets my BTB acording to THX. Will this loose me an picture quality on HDVDs? I know I can't up convert, but my TV displays everything in 1080i anyway. So, I don't think I'll be hurting to much.
#15
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Originally Posted by Suprmallet
It gives you DolbyTruHD and improved 720p resolution.
Again, the black crush issue isn't on every setup. I use DVI and 2.0 eliminated my black crush.
Again, the black crush issue isn't on every setup. I use DVI and 2.0 eliminated my black crush.
#16
DVD Talk Legend
Originally Posted by XavierMike
Looks like I'm going to go w/componant as it gets my BTB acording to THX. Will this loose me an picture quality on HDVDs?
#17
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
What is black crush?
What is blacker than black?
What is whiter than white?
If I have to ask, should I not worry about it? [No, I don't have an HDDVD player yet; I would be using HDMI -> DVI].
What is blacker than black?
What is whiter than white?
If I have to ask, should I not worry about it? [No, I don't have an HDDVD player yet; I would be using HDMI -> DVI].
#19
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 6,830
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Mpls, MN
Originally Posted by dtcarson
What is black crush?
What is blacker than black?
What is whiter than white?
If I have to ask, should I not worry about it? [No, I don't have an HDDVD player yet; I would be using HDMI -> DVI].
What is blacker than black?
What is whiter than white?
If I have to ask, should I not worry about it? [No, I don't have an HDDVD player yet; I would be using HDMI -> DVI].
Blacker than black and whiter than white are the ranges outside of the NTSC system I described in that post.
#20
Thread Starter
DVD Talk Special Edition
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,465
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Indianapolis, IN
I just tested my system w/componant. I must have had colorspace issues with HDMI as well, because now the menu on the A1 changes colors depending on what tier I'm on. Rewatched som e of Pitch Black-WOW. I was amazed.
Also, I got new speakers today (Infinity 750's) to replace HTIB. I was completely blown away. Hooray for HD DVD!!
Also, I got new speakers today (Infinity 750's) to replace HTIB. I was completely blown away. Hooray for HD DVD!!
#23
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 3,921
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
From: AUSTIN - Land of Mexican Coke
I think I must be experiencing it also. I Netflixed Borune Supremacy and noticed some dark scenes that lost all detail. I also notice a ghosting sort of image once in awhile when a very light area is in a dark area. The ghosting image will carry over to the next scene. An example would be car head lights at night. If the car is moving, I briefly see a trail.
I have the HD A1 (2.0) connected via HDMI to a Sony 34" XBR970
I have the HD A1 (2.0) connected via HDMI to a Sony 34" XBR970
#24
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Originally Posted by XavierMike
Which firmware do you have, and how are you connected?



