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Old 01-25-06 | 06:27 PM
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Will Columbia House carry HD?

If so, how soon will it take them?
Old 01-25-06 | 07:13 PM
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I'm sure they will. I think they carried XBOX 360 games when it launched.
Old 01-25-06 | 10:12 PM
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I think they'll start a new club for this, but will they sell both HD-DVD and Bluray on the same site or have different sites for those as well? The whole dual format HD battle is going to be a nightmare for both retailers and consumers, I wonder how things are going pan out.
Old 01-25-06 | 10:24 PM
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The whole dual format HD battle is going to be a nightmare for both retailers and consumers, I wonder how things are going pan out.
Yea, they obviously forgot the whole VHS - Beta fiasco.
Old 01-26-06 | 12:07 PM
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Yea, they obviously forgot the whole VHS - Beta fiasco.
Quite the contrary. There have been a number of attempts to unify the coming HD formats but neither side wanted to give up their technology and the attendant royalties. Each side prefers to think that it will win the format war. Which is really a PITA for consumers.

While is is possible that both formats will succeed, the likelihood is that one (or both) will fail, as happened with Beta so many years ago, leaving early adopters with orphan players and discs.
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Not to start a format war here but early indicators reflect that Blu-ray will edge out HD-Dvd. The fact that HD-Dvd software/hardware will officially launch in March is bad for the early adopters.
Old 01-26-06 | 08:48 PM
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I'm not sure, but I'd be surprised if they did for quite a while, especially with the eventual format war.

I'd say the best comparison would be DVD-Audio vs Super Audio CD (SACD). Thanks in no small part to that particular format war, neither format has managed to make much headway (although SACD seems to be the clear winner in available material.) On the same note, there are no "clubs" that offer either of those formats yet, and they have been available for years.
Old 01-27-06 | 05:45 AM
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You can't call a format a failure before it's released. For HD-DVD, wait until this time next year and then make an assumption. What if HD-DVD sells like hotcakes? What if the PS3 gets delayed? What if the only blu-ray players available cost over $1000? That doesn't bode well when Toshiba has a $500 HD-DVD player.

I'm not choosing sides yet. But I'm not willing to already predict which one will fail because no one knows. The big advantage Blu-Ray has is more studio support. But that could change if HD-DVD outsells BR in the coming months. They change their minds often. We'll see....
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I think this format war will be fought with Marketing. I wouldn't be surprised if the price of players and movies becomes the discriminator. If that becomes the case, then low overhead / high volume channels such as CH may be valuable to the competing camps. IIRC, although Beta was generally considered to be the superior format, it wasn't "superior enough" to overcome the widely available VHS players/movies. Even Beta-HiFi, although first to market and clearly superior, wasn't able to swing the outcome. Had Sony been more generous in licensing cheaper player manufacturers, things may have been different. I'm wondering if we'll see that they've learned their lesson.

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Old 01-27-06 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
You can't call a format a failure before it's released. For HD-DVD, wait until this time next year and then make an assumption. What if HD-DVD sells like hotcakes? What if the PS3 gets delayed? What if the only blu-ray players available cost over $1000? That doesn't bode well when Toshiba has a $500 HD-DVD player.

I'm not choosing sides yet. But I'm not willing to already predict which one will fail because no one knows. The big advantage Blu-Ray has is more studio support. But that could change if HD-DVD outsells BR in the coming months. They change their minds often. We'll see....
Well, regardless of price, the only thing that really matters is content. Will your favorite studios also back the format of YOUR choice? Will we all have to buy two very expensive players (in the near term anyway) to see the movies we want? It's EXACTLY like the DVD-A vs SACD situation I described above. I love my DVD player for it's superior PQ, but it also happens to be a DVD-A player as well. Unfortunatly, the vast majority of music content I want is only on SACD, so I haven't bothered with a different player yet because I've yet to find a dual player with the PQ and features I want at an affordable price.
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The key to this may come down to cost. Blu-ray discs are more costly to create than HD-DVD. It looks like everything boils down to blu-ray being for the most part technically superior but HD-dvd is more compatible with current DVD technology and cheaper.
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The majority of consumers usually choose products based on price, me thinks.
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The majority of consumers usually choose products based on price, me thinks.
All other things being equal, I might agree. The problem is that different studios have aligned themselves with different formats, some are Blu-ray only, some are HD-DVD only, and a few are both. Supporting both formats may seem like a good idea, but will most likely only end up making them both more expensive. We better hope that low pricing isn't what will make HD movie discs a success, because it will be a long time before average joe will trade in his standard DVD's for HD versions. Most people (outside of forums like this) still don't understand the difference between anamophic widescreen, letterboxed widescreen, and full screen! I'd be willing to bet that even fewer have even seen an HD program.

I don't want this to sound like I'm not for the idea of HD movies, on the contrary, I've been watching HDTV for nearly three years and wouldn't trade it for anything. I just think it will be a long time before either format moves outside the niche high-end home theater envionment and lot will have to happen first.

For starters, the players themselves will need to be a reasonable price, by which I mean sub-$200 (and they should all be compatable with DVD as well.)
Second, one of these formats will have to go the way of the dodo, we all know we need a unified format. Next, the movies need to be affordably priced. The best way for that to happen is to phase out standard dvd's all together so they aren't a competition. People have gotten used to a certain price point for the movies they buy. If the two co-exist, either the standard versions will have to be bargain priced or the HD versions will have to be much higher than the $19.99 folks are used to.
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Originally Posted by viking99
I think this format war will be fought with Marketing. I wouldn't be surprised if the price of players and movies becomes the discriminator. If that becomes the case, then low overhead / high volume channels such as CH may be valuable to the competing camps.
I hate to continue being the contentious one here, but I'm not sure I follow you here. If CH were such a valuable sales channel, then every studio would be clammering to have CH sell their movies now, which is obviously not the case. I'd be pretty surprised if CH even comes close to the volume of DVD sales that a Best Buy or Walmart might have. And of the existing CH customers, how many of them get in on the deals that we take for granted?
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I hate to continue being the contentious one here, but I'm not sure I follow you here. If CH were such a valuable sales channel, then every studio would be clammering to have CH sell their movies now, which is obviously not the case.
Well, "may be valuable" and "clammering" are two different things. I was merely suggesting that, building on the premise that price would be a discriminator, high volume would assist in winning a potential pricing war. Despite what some may think, CH may very well be considered "a valuable sales channel" by currently participating studios such as Universal, Warner, Dreamworks, etc. I doubt they sell their wares here solely for our benefit.....

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