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Old 07-13-05 | 06:11 PM
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Taking my 12 year old to the movies...

The local $2 cheap theater has 3 flicks. Robots, The Pacifier, and Sin City. He has already seen Robots and did not like it too much. The Pacifier looks like a horrible nanny mr. mom type movie.

I was reading reviews of Sin City trying to figure out if it is too scary for a 12 year old boy. There seem to be strong opinions. Some say it is a GUY movie, that chicks can't understand it, and the violence is comic book. Others say this movie should be NC-17 film.

Is this a good movie for an uncle to take his nephew to? I know he likes Batman and dark comic book type movies.
Old 07-13-05 | 06:16 PM
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The mods will be moving this pretty soon.

I haven't seen Sin City, but from what I've heard and read, it probably is NOT appropriate for a 12 year old. Batman Begins on the other hand is a good movie and appropriate.

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Old 07-13-05 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mrpayroll
The mods will be moving this pretty soon.

I haven't seen Sin City, but from what I've heard and read, it probably is NOT appropriate for a 12 year old. Batman Begins on the other hand is a good movie and appropriate.

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Thanks. I want to know if Sin City is a more violent version of a batman comic book, or if it is really disturbing like Natural Born Killers. If it is comic book type violent, I would not mind taking him. If it is Natural Born Killers type violence, I think it will be the nanny movie.
Old 07-13-05 | 06:26 PM
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there are no less than 3 hard shots to the crotch. one having the equipment ripped off
Old 07-13-05 | 06:27 PM
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Depending on how conservative your brother/sister is, taking the boy to Sin City could put you on the outs with them. Your nephew however, will think you're the really cool uncle.
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Originally Posted by That70sGuy
Thanks. I want to know if Sin City is a more violent version of a batman comic book, or if it is really disturbing like Natural Born Killers. If it is comic book type violent, I would not mind taking him. If it is Natural Born Killers type violence, I think it will be the nanny movie.
Frank Miller's Sin City (USA) (complete title)

MPAA: Rated R for sustained strong stylized violence, nudity and sexual content including dialogue.


Sustained is a pretty key word in my opinion. It is like being bombarded with strong stylized violence.

Did your son see Kill Bill Vol. 1 or 2?

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Old 07-13-05 | 06:38 PM
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Depending on how conservative your brother/sister is, taking the boy to Sin City could put you on the outs with them. Your nephew however, will think you're the really cool uncle.
She is very protective of him, too much, where I think it is harming his self esteem. Boys need to be boys. I know she did not let him play football because she thought he would break his leg or get hurt. Same thing with baseball, she worried he would get hit in the head.

I would not have any problem watching Kill Bill with him, maybe I will rent that instead and the whole family can watch it together. I don't think she will say anything, because I will be the one bringing it over, but I don't think she will sit through the whole thing with us.
Old 07-13-05 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by That70sGuy
She is very protective of him, too much, where I think it is harming his self esteem. Boys need to be boys. I know she did not let him play football because she thought he would break his leg or get hurt. Same thing with baseball, she worried he would get hit in the head.

I would not have any problem watching Kill Bill with him, maybe I will rent that instead and the whole family can watch it together. I don't think she will say anything, because I will be the one bringing it over, but I don't think she will sit through the whole thing with us.
out of curiosity, have you seen the kill bill movies? like sin city (this is my personal opinion), the first volume is so over the top with blood and gore, that some of it is funny.
also, your sister being conservitive probably wouldn't like him seeing some t&a in sin city.
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out of curiosity, have you seen the kill bill movies? like sin city (this is my personal opinion), the first volume is so over the top with blood and gore, that some of it is funny.
also, your sister being conservitive probably wouldn't like him seeing some t&a in sin city.
I saw Kill Bill, but it was so long ago that all I remember was the violence was comic book type. It was not very realistic. I remember the one big fight scene in the resturant and thought it was pretty cool, how Uma jumped from the uppstairs to the downstairs and had the swordfight with 100 ninjas (or whatever those guys were). And that little hottie Japanese woman who fights her.

My criteria, for what is acceptable violence, is that it is not so realistic and disturbing that it is hard to sleep later. Like Natural Born Killers, that was just plain sickening.
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no way i'd take a 12 year old to sin city. But i agree with you on Kill Bill. Very over the top violence that looks more like Anime than real life.
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There seem to be strong opinions. Some say it is a GUY movie, that chicks can't understand it, and the violence is comic book. Others say this movie should be NC-17 film.
- It is a guy movie.

- I'm a chick and I liked it very much. You don't have to be a guy to like a guy movie any more than you have to be a chick to enjoy a chick flick.

- The violence is stylized, extreme, and unrelenting.

- I'd say its rating is very debatable.


I'm not a parent and it's been awhile since I've been 12 myself, but my gut reaction is that it's a bit much for that age. I'd defer to the opinions of those who have kids, however.
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No way I'd take a 12 year old to see it.
Old 07-14-05 | 03:49 PM
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i think 12 is a bit too young. i didnt know much about Sin City going in, and I was shocked a few times by the graphic violence and torture, and i'm 24.

tell him to wait until maybe 15.
Old 07-14-05 | 04:33 PM
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Even ignoring the violence, Sin City deals with some very adult themes, including but not limited to
Spoiler:
pedophilia, rape, and prostitution
Old 07-14-05 | 08:58 PM
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And BOOBIES! BOOBIES BOOBIES BOOBIIIIEEEESSSS! Rip off a guy's 'goods'? No problem. Show a boob, I wouldn't recommend letting him watch it till he's 17.

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I'm all for the 'self esteem' angle. However, Sin City is most-likely NOT the violent R-rated movie to show him. It has entirely too many acts criminal glorification. That's not how I see the movie. But I can imagine a kid seeing it, and equivalating it with something like the Grand Theft Auto games.

I'd ONLY take him if he's big on movies in general ... if he'd appreciate the substance and style over the violence. Is he some kind of prodical film geek? I was like that when I was twelve - but then I'm a NERD - turning into an antisocial coffee drinking *** (not my actual orientation, just slandering myself here folks), if you will. OH GOD! SAVE HIM NOW! Anyways, if he leaves talking about 'how cool when those hookers' heads were on the wall', maybe you did something wrong.

Batman kept it violent (harsh above gore), yet sofisticated and sincere. Rent Die Hard 3 for him. It's a fun, kick-ass, cocky bad-mouthed movie (which it sounds like you're looking for), where the good guys are good guys! If you want to get a little more riskay, check out Starship Troopers. Or Speed, or something.

If you think he's up for it, go see Land of the Dead. I'd show that to a 12 year old. Unless he's the kind of kid that cries when he has nightmares.

There's plenty of manly movies out there that aren't so grimm. Just none in the theaters right now. And, actually, good hard R movies are pretty rare these days. Maybe you should be checking the video store. Sin City is probably a bit much.
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Doesn't anyone search anymore? This same exact discussion going on here.
Old 07-15-05 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin


Doesn't anyone search anymore? This same exact discussion going on here.
That's a 15 year-old. Totally different...



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Originally Posted by troystiffler
And BOOBIES! BOOBIES BOOBIES BOOBIIIIEEEESSSS! Rip off a guy's 'goods'? No problem. Show a boob, I wouldn't recommend letting him watch it till he's 17.
As Jack Nicholson said, 'in American cinema, you can stab a boob but you can't kiss it.'
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Doesn't anyone search anymore? This same exact discussion going on here.
Well the mods finally moved this to Movie Talk, since it originated in The Other.

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Old 07-15-05 | 11:32 AM
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Regardless of whether or not the movie is appropriate for a 12 year old (it isn't), it's inappropriate for you to go behind the mother's back and take her son to a movie she doesn't want him to see.
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Originally Posted by TomOpus
That's a 15 year-old. Totally different...



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Old 07-15-05 | 01:15 PM
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Doesn't anyone search anymore?
are you insinuating dvd talk's search tool is effective and/or useful? i might disagree....
Old 07-15-05 | 03:01 PM
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I would NOT take a 12-year-old to SIN CITY. It's the most violent (although granted violent in a cartoonish way - like Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill) movie I've seen in 2005.
Old 07-15-05 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pdinosaur
are you insinuating dvd talk's search tool is effective and/or useful? i might disagree....
Before the forum switch I would agree with you, but since then it works pretty good.

Search for Sin City in the title pulls up these, upon which the topic at hand is thread #2 found.

Not bad for 10 seconds of work.
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Man, when I was 12 I would have loved to have seen this movie. Actually, I probably would have seen it, as my parents never prevented me from seeing R-rated stuff. But that's just me...


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