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Old 07-01-05 | 02:25 AM
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Discussion on Criterion's movie selection (was joke about The Island release)



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+Inspiration: 192 minute documentary of the various car commercials that guided Michael Bay to create his masterpiece
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Silly person. Go play in the hay
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Old 07-01-05 | 04:51 AM
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Damn, I am getting sick of them leaving trailers off these discs.
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Old 07-01-05 | 07:40 AM
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Funnily enough, I was thinking "The Island" for some reason when I clicked on the link. No choice Criterion could ever make again could be as bad as adding Armageddon to their catalogue.
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Thank the Lord. I know Bay signed a 3 movie deal with Crit when he did Armegedon and The Rock, kept the last one open for future releases. This is great news. I love Michael Bay!!!
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How can Disk 3 have that long of material on it?
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This does make me wonder, though: does a filmmaker's "tie" to Criterion override the studio's normal attitude towards licensing their films? Like, if Michael Bay did want to do a Criterion edition of The Island, could he overrule Warner Bros and DreamWorks?

But as for this, shouldn't you include the 150-minute documentary of Michael Bay and his charming on-set tantrums, including not-so-rare footage of him yelling at his actors and telling them to "look cooler"?
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181 minute interview of Jerry Buckheimer's infamous lunch meeting with the great Michael Bay
An interview... of a lunch meeting...? Ooookay!
Old 07-01-05 | 09:04 AM
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Michael Bay
.......and then he started eating his salad.......without........a fork

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It must have been terrible.
Old 07-01-05 | 09:12 AM
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all I can say is that the cover's cool.
Old 07-01-05 | 09:14 AM
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all I can say is that the cover's cool.
I respectfully disagree. Criterion's covers are ART, not a Photoshop filter on some production stills.
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I respectfully disagree. Criterion's covers are ART, not a Photoshop filter on some production stills.
sorry forgot to add a sarcastic smiley.
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This does make me wonder, though: does a filmmaker's "tie" to Criterion override the studio's normal attitude towards licensing their films? Like, if Michael Bay did want to do a Criterion edition of The Island, could he overrule Warner Bros and DreamWorks?
No. Although people have this fantasy about directors having an agreement with Criterion, it's in the studios' hands, not theirs.

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Originally Posted by djtoell
No. Although people have this fantasy about directors having an agreement with Criterion, it's in the studios' hands, not theirs.

DJ
so is the theory why Columbia/TriStar are being hard asses and not letting Criterion getting the DVD rights to releasing:

- Bram Stoker's Dracula
- The Fisher King
- Adventures of Baron Munchausen
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No. Although people have this fantasy about directors having an agreement with Criterion, it's in the studios' hands, not theirs.
what about Wes Anderson? All his films except Bottle Rocket have been released by Criterion even though Buena Vista controls the rights. I think there is some kind of agreement between directors and Criterion.
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i was always told it was directors themselves, but with some time of kickback or something for the studios
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Old 07-01-05 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by dx23
what about Wes Anderson? All his films except Bottle Rocket have been released by Criterion even though Buena Vista controls the rights. I think there is some kind of agreement between directors and Criterion.
But Buena Vista has a relationship with Criterion, while Sony does not (outside of licensing the Monty Python and the Holy Grail commentary from Criterion).

Oh well, boo hoo, no Island Criterion for real. What a horrible shame.
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
+What Script? 110 minute documentary including rare interviews with the cast about Michael Bay's "don't worry we'll edit it later" approach to filmmaking.

+Inspiration: 192 minute documentary of the various car commercials that guided Michael Bay to create his masterpiece

Michael Bay is such a hack. I felt like someone sledgehammered my nuts when I first heard he'd be doing the live-action Transformers movie. Someone needs to banish him, Antoine Fuqua, and Rob Cohen to some far away distant moon where they can't do any more damage.
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Originally Posted by dx23
what about Wes Anderson? All his films except Bottle Rocket have been released by Criterion even though Buena Vista controls the rights.
Yes...and Disney had a business arrangement with Criterion for many years now. This began in the laserdisc era, and has led to a number of Disney/Criterion releases, including the Anderson films, on laserdisc and DVD.

I think there is some kind of agreement between directors and Criterion.
You can believe whatever you like. If you think that directors actually own these studio-owned films, enjoy your fantasy world.

DJ
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Someone needs to banish him, Antoine Fuqua, and Rob Cohen to some far away distant moon where they can't do any more damage.

add McG to that list as well.
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i was always told it was directors themselves, but with some time of kickback or something for the studios
That's because people invent things, say it on message boards, and other people repeat it. After a while, it gets repeated as fact rather than someone's personal invented theory.

A "kickback" for the studios? They own the films. Come on. They're not getting a "kickback" - they're getting a licensing fee. They make the licensing decisions, not the directors. A director's interest in or relationship with an outside company could influence a studio's decisions, but that's about it. The studios certainly aren't reduced to the level of receiving a "kickback or something" on the licensing of a $100 million film that they own.

DJ

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Originally Posted by Giles
add McG to that list as well.
Yes, we'll definitely have a V.I.P. seat reserved for him too.

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