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Old 03-18-05 | 06:30 PM
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"The Island" - Michael Bay without Bruckheimer

New trailer up here: http://www.apple.com/trailers/dreamworks/the_island/

The trailer seems a bit vague right now, but my guess is that this is more of a teaser and we'll see something more substantial later. This could be interesting to see how he manages without Bruckheimer controlling the editing room.
Old 03-18-05 | 06:46 PM
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looks like a big-budget remake of Parts: The Clonus Horror. but seriously, i saw enough in the teaser to know that no matter how good the mystery is, Michael Bay's overwrought, shock and awe brand of cinema will ruin it for me. i know that's a terribly predictable thing to say. sorry.
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Well, anybody who watches this shouldn't expect anything but some pretty shots and some big explosions. If you want intelligent cinema, this ain't the place to look. As for this movie...eh, I'll probably watch it, doesn't look that spectacular. Bay is best when he sticks to violent, blow everything up movies. Not to sound too basic, but hopefully he sticks to high volume action in this flick. He really isn't good with much else.
Old 03-18-05 | 07:24 PM
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i don't think anyone would make the mistake of expecting "intelligtent cinema" from The Island... it's almost too much to expect competent storytelling, but it would be a nice surprise if the guy would give us "a good story, well told" for once.
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A cliched action trailer for a Michael Bay movie, I am utterly shocked.

Good cast, I'd love for it to kick ass, and be a good story, but I just can't see how this guy could do anything good.

He has some talent, and it sure would be nice to see him do something with it one day.
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It's got the ultimate "beyond her years" babe Scarlett Johansson in it so I am there.
Old 03-18-05 | 09:12 PM
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Looks cool to me. Of course, i'm a big fan of Michael Bay.

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i know that's a terribly predictable thing to say. sorry.
Why do you consider the truth predictable?
Old 03-18-05 | 09:20 PM
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I like Michael Bay a lot, and will surely see this. They guy has an intuition for action. I'm expecting two and a half hours of sensations goosebump-driven action intertwined with melodramatic romance that puts a personal sense of urgency into those action sequences. Doesn't get better than that.

And he often sticks to physical effects, which is a very honorable thing. Well, with all the lazy crap that is released these days. I get incredibly bored with all of this Matrix-inspired action bullshit. I want helicopter sequences, complete with with lens flares all over the place. And vehicles flying everywhere. Escapistic-police policies. So on and so on.

I hope he can hold onto his shots a little longer than normal. It's quite possibly my only problem with his movies.
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i haven't seen this trailer - damn work not having QT - but i'm not sure why he's being almost unilaterally trashed.

i've never understood what was so horrible about pearl harbor either.

the rock, armageddon, bad boys, they may not be movies you walk out of that fundamentally alter the course of one's existence, i think he has made movies that consistently succeed in theaters.

and many critics of the academy awards have said that *successful* movies need to be more considered. (insert plug for the incredibles as best picture!)

ok. now to go home, check on kansas!
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Why do you consider the truth predictable?
well, i didn't really say anything about him that a million people before me haven't said.
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you gotta admit his movies are always entertaining though
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Originally Posted by maingon
you gotta admit his movies are always entertaining though
To be completely honest, I've seen every feature film (and one Got Milk ad) that the man has directed, and consistantly, without fail, his direction ruined the experience for me. And by 'direction' I am referring to a number of shot compositions, editing choices, and performance decisions that are so distracting that I cannot stay immersed in the film for more than a few minutes at a time.
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you gotta admit his movies are always entertaining though
Well, I'll admit parts of his movies are entertaining. And only some of his films. I don't really consider Pearl Harbor or Armageddon entertaining (or good, or any positive thing you'd call a movie).

I'm only hoping this movie has lots of explosions and is shroter then 2 hours...and is violent. Cause, when they have those thigns his movies are more fun.
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Originally Posted by maingon
you gotta admit his movies are always entertaining though
No.
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Originally Posted by maingon
you gotta admit his movies are always entertaining though
No, his movies are a pain to watch, at least the two I've seen. They are just not enjoyable. I love action movies, I own a bunch, but his movies are a total mess. It's like he sits down, plans out everything, decides what the most simple, uninspiring, generic, cliched, gimicky, movie he can make, and then does it.

He does it very well, but it's just not entertaining. Terminator 2 is entertaining, Jurassic Park is entertaining, Escape from New York or True Lies, or whatever is entertaining. Pearl Harbor is Michael Bay and Jerry Bruckheimer trying to meld Titanic with a war movie and dumbing it down to the lowest common denominator in order to maximize film profits.

Look, a lot of what I just said is totally subjective though... I'm sure people could say the same thing about someone I like... that's cool... that's just how I see things.

Basically though, I just don't like watching them. I watch Armageddon, and thought it was crappy. Then I watched Pearl Harbor and felt like I was being practically insulted. So no, I can't admit I find them entertaining.
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Basically though, I just don't like watching them. I watch Armageddon, and thought it was crappy. Then I watched Pearl Harbor and felt like I was being practically insulted. So no, I can't admit I find them entertaining.
Well, I'll be honest, you watched his absolute worst films. His other R rated action movies are...well, they're still stupid, but they're fun in a juvenile blow everything up way (though each one is way too long for their own good). Bad Boys 2 for all its lame humor and idiotic plot still sports some impressive action sequences.
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i've never understood what was so horrible about pearl harbor either.
Like I said before, I really like Bay, and what he's doing. Pearl Harbor had that escapistic, sometimes insincere feeling that all of his movies have. And it didn't translate very well in a war film, based on a true story, which events is a staple in American history. Too much gloss, and not enough grit. It was just too much of a summer movie for it's own good.

Additionally, it had a few grossly misdirected scenes. All of which involve the love triangle. Especially that ending. It just seemed ... wrong. I think Bay was on a high after all of that stuff worked in Armageddon (the "leaving on a jet plane" scene, the animal cracker scene, etc.). But I just remember all of the snickers during the last minute. Not quite as ill-received as the death of Anikin's mom, or the giddy love scene. But Pearl Harbor is right up there.

The retaliation scenes were very intense. But it's the gimicky dogfights during the day that just seemed like too much.

I'd still give it 2.5/4 stars.
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I will watch it for the cast.
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I'm a Michael Bay fan. But that trailer didn't do anything for me. Hopefully, it's just a teaser as FinkPish said above. Coz if not, it would probably be the last Bay movie I'd see in a theater.
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Originally Posted by fumanstan
Looks cool to me. Of course, i'm a big fan of Michael Bay.

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I like all of Michael Bay's movies, and this one looks pretty good too. I will probably wait for the DVD though.
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Originally Posted by Cygnet74
looks like a big-budget remake of Parts: The Clonus Horror.
Dammit. I just watched the trailer, and came to this forum to see if there was a thread about the movie so I could post the exact same thing - silly me, I thought it would be an obscure reference.
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I will watch it for the cast.
Same here, but I'll wait till the dvd.
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Didn't look too interesting from the trailer.I hate when they make the trailers so damn small too.
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after seeing the trailer for The Island, I joked about its apparent similarities to Parts: The Clonus Horror. then, I read this...

The Island
Lincoln Six-Echo (McGregor) is a resident of a seemingly utopian but contained facility in the mid 21st century. Like all of the inhabitants of this carefully controlled environment, Lincoln hopes to be chosen to go to the "The Island" - reportedly the last uncontaminated spot on the planet. But Lincoln soon discovers that everything about his existence is a lie. He and all of the other inhabitants of the facility are actually human clones whose only purpose is to provide "spare parts" for their original human counterparts. Realizing it is only a matter of time before he is "harvested," Lincoln makes a daring escape with a beautiful fellow resident named Jordan Two-Delta (Johansson). Relentlessly pursued by the forces of the sinister institute that once housed them, Lincoln and Jordan engage in a race for their lives to literally meet their makers.


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