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Old 03-08-05 | 09:20 PM
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Only redeeming quality of hip-hop...

Personally, can't stand the stuff....when subjected to it, the game is, spot the sample....now I'm stumped. The artist, I've been told, is Trick Daddy and the track is Sugar, or Sugar, Give Me Some. It's the strings/guitar...I recognize it....just can't place it. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Hey don't want to burst your bubble but hip-hop is dead 1973-1991
My rap has turn to crap because of gangster rap now go take nap..
Old 03-09-05 | 12:29 AM
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Old 03-09-05 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ROBERTCOP34
Hey don't want to burst your bubble but hip-hop is dead 1973-1991
My rap has turn to crap because of gangster rap now go take nap..

Whatever.

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Hey at least rap/hip hop stars usually write their own songs
Old 03-09-05 | 01:50 PM
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Hey Ergyu those people are new-school jazz rap maybe but to say there hip-hop please like said HIP-HOP IS DEAD sorry man i speak the truth.....
Old 03-10-05 | 01:20 PM
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Hey Ergyu those people are new-school jazz rap maybe but to say there hip-hop please like said HIP-HOP IS DEAD sorry man i speak the truth.....
wrong.

Go listen to Nas - Streets Disciple, Masta Ace - Long Hot Summer or K-Os - Joyful Rebellion and tell me that hip hop is dead....
Old 03-10-05 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MartinBlank
Personally, can't stand the stuff....when subjected to it, the game is, spot the sample....now I'm stumped. The artist, I've been told, is Trick Daddy and the track is Sugar, or Sugar, Give Me Some. It's the strings/guitar...I recognize it....just can't place it. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Not sure if it's the one, but I know there is a Trick Daddy song that uses the riff from Ozzy's "Crazy Train".
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Hey Ergyu those people are new-school jazz rap maybe but to say there hip-hop please like said HIP-HOP IS DEAD sorry man i speak the truth.....

What the fuck is New school Jazz Rap?
Old 03-10-05 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ROBERTCOP34
Hey don't want to burst your bubble but hip-hop is dead
Maybe in the artistic sense, but commercially it's more successful than ever.
Old 03-10-05 | 08:24 PM
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Not sure if it's the one, but I know there is a Trick Daddy song that uses the riff from Ozzy's "Crazy Train".

No...I know of the song you speak, and this isn't it....The strings/guitar in it have a very light melody....I wanna say it sound like "Classical Gas"....
Old 03-11-05 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ROBERTCOP34
Hey don't want to burst your bubble but hip-hop is dead 1973-1991
My rap has turn to crap because of gangster rap now go take nap..
You need some Gift of Gab, son.

Or maybe go see Sage Francis and Sol.iLLaquists of Sound when they come to your town.

Hip hop is dying, not dead. Please don't kill it by saying so.
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Originally Posted by paulringodaman
Hey at least rap/hip hop stars usually write their own songs
Songs?
Old 03-11-05 | 05:18 PM
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While I used to enjoy Run-DMC and the Beastie Boys, and (very, very) OCCASIONALLY like something new that's rapped, I'd say that the best thing about rap/hip-hop is that the (so-called) artists shoot each other with regularity over stupid sh*t (hence doing their part to weed out stupidity).
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Originally Posted by ROBERTCOP34
Hey don't want to burst your bubble but hip-hop is dead 1973-1991
My rap has turn to crap because of gangster rap now go take nap..
danol?
Old 03-12-05 | 03:31 AM
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any way...back to the original inquirey....name the sample, please...
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redeeming quality...? sometimes they shoot each other
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I hope that this is just a phase that America is going thru, myself included. I'm not a big fan of rap/hip-hop, but i do find myself liking some of the new songs.

I just think it's sad that the likes of Mariah, J-Lo, and others can't seem to put out a good pop song anymore without having to mess it up by including some "rap crap" in with it. I don't think it's necessary to keep remixing good songs and adding rap to them.
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Hip-hop's not dead and it will never die. There is a ton of great hip-hop still being made, but thanks to the homogeneity of modern radio, you have to dig a little deeper to find it.
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Sugar on My Tongue by the Talking Heads.
Old 03-12-05 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by paulringodaman
Hey at least rap/hip hop stars usually write their own songs
They may write their own lyrics but it seems that most prefer to steal or sample (whatever you want to call it) their tunes from old dead white bands.
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Originally Posted by paulringodaman
Hey at least rap/hip hop stars usually write their own songs
You may be right and I like Rap and Hip/Hop as much as the next guy but there's definitely no lyrical genius behind most of it....
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Originally Posted by brianluvdvd
They may write their own lyrics but it seems that most prefer to steal or sample (whatever you want to call it) their tunes from old dead white bands.
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=411627

It takes about as much time to write a modern pop-rock song as it does to find an old record to jack. If we're comparing the worst of the genre, let's compare the worst of all genres. I doubt that if you listened to some RJD2 and cunninlynguists, who are just a couple examples of creative samplers, you'd think it's anything less than an art. You might not like it or whatever, but undeniably it's creative, unique, and intelligent.

Rap music in its essence is about lyrical ability, which is why sampling is accepted in the genre. The artist isn't judged on the music behind them, but on what they can do with words. I would argue that the average Jay-Z song has a lot more lyrical complexity than the average Sum 41 song.


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