What's up with re-used soundtrack scores?
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What's up with re-used soundtrack scores?
New movies, old scores. It seems to happen all the time now.....as if we won't notice. The movies I usually hear copied are: Braveheart, Glory, Legends of the Fall, Forrest Gump. Anyone else find this cheesy?
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Re: What's up with re-used soundtrack scores?
Originally posted by wabio
New movies, old scores. It seems to happen all the time now.....as if we won't notice. The movies I usually hear copied are: Braveheart, Glory, Legends of the Fall, Forrest Gump. Anyone else find this cheesy?
New movies, old scores. It seems to happen all the time now.....as if we won't notice. The movies I usually hear copied are: Braveheart, Glory, Legends of the Fall, Forrest Gump. Anyone else find this cheesy?
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Perhaps he means the whole Requiem in a dream/ Two towers trailer?
I don't notice unless it's a total knock off and I really can't think of any right now.
I don't notice unless it's a total knock off and I really can't think of any right now.
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Yeah, I notice the use of the score from other movies in many trailers of new movies over the last few years, but they never have transfered into the movie itself as far as I know.
Some movies sampled:
Bram Stokers Dracula
Gladiator
The Mummy
Some movies sampled:
Bram Stokers Dracula
Gladiator
The Mummy
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Yes, if it's just trailers using the scores from other movies we're talking about, that's very common. In most cases, the score is among the last details added to a movie, along with digital effects and other post-production details.
The actual score can't be used if it hasn't been written yet, so the farther in the future the release date is, the more likely the music you're hearing with a trailer is recycled.
The actual score can't be used if it hasn't been written yet, so the farther in the future the release date is, the more likely the music you're hearing with a trailer is recycled.
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Another popular one is "Come See the Paradise" by Randy Edelman. Almost always used in trailers for suspense/thrillers.
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Originally posted by dfinney
The actual score can't be used if it hasn't been written yet, so the farther in the future the release date is, the more likely the music you're hearing with a trailer is recycled.
The actual score can't be used if it hasn't been written yet, so the farther in the future the release date is, the more likely the music you're hearing with a trailer is recycled.
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Yep, the op has to be referring to trailers. I have never heard an entire score recycled. I catch them all the time, although I am drawing a blank right now, the only two I can think of are Prince of Thieves & back to the future themes that I hear used multiple times.
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You'll be hard pressed to find a single movie that has a reused score from another film. Oh, I'm sure there's one out there, and many films have used the same source song (hell Smash Mouth's all star is in way too many movies) but for some reason people think just cause the music is in the trailer, it'll be in the movie.
It never works that way. I know reading on AICN talkbacks (yeah I know, not the smartest bunch) but anyway they were going on and on about Sky Captain using the Stargate music. Seriously, it's just for the trailer, the real score isn't done, simple as that.
Now, with regards to films sounding like Braveheart or Aliens or whatever, it's probably because James Horner did the music. And yes, he has a problem of copying himself at least partially. Go watch Patriot Games and Aliens...both films have the exact same theme in it. Worse, that theme was also used in another film, some movie with monkeys, matthew broderick and helen hunt i think.
It never works that way. I know reading on AICN talkbacks (yeah I know, not the smartest bunch) but anyway they were going on and on about Sky Captain using the Stargate music. Seriously, it's just for the trailer, the real score isn't done, simple as that.
Now, with regards to films sounding like Braveheart or Aliens or whatever, it's probably because James Horner did the music. And yes, he has a problem of copying himself at least partially. Go watch Patriot Games and Aliens...both films have the exact same theme in it. Worse, that theme was also used in another film, some movie with monkeys, matthew broderick and helen hunt i think.
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Originally posted by jaeufraser
You'll be hard pressed to find a single movie that has a reused score from another film. Oh, I'm sure there's one out there, and many films have used the same source song (hell Smash Mouth's all star is in way too many movies) but for some reason people think just cause the music is in the trailer, it'll be in the movie.
You'll be hard pressed to find a single movie that has a reused score from another film. Oh, I'm sure there's one out there, and many films have used the same source song (hell Smash Mouth's all star is in way too many movies) but for some reason people think just cause the music is in the trailer, it'll be in the movie.
As for ALL-STAR, it appears in the upcoming documentary/"America rules!" commercial, AMERICA'S HEART AND SOUL...
I wanted to punch the screen. I can't believe the studios still use that fu**ing song.
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Originally posted by jaeufraser
It never works that way. I know reading on AICN talkbacks (yeah I know, not the smartest bunch) but anyway they were going on and on about Sky Captain using the Stargate music. Seriously, it's just for the trailer, the real score isn't done, simple as that.
It never works that way. I know reading on AICN talkbacks (yeah I know, not the smartest bunch) but anyway they were going on and on about Sky Captain using the Stargate music. Seriously, it's just for the trailer, the real score isn't done, simple as that.
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Stargate. That is another one that gets used a lot. I think there was a thread a while back of people posting about trailers that use music from other films.
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well....... Re-Animator's score was a blatant reworked version of Psycho's music.
which felt derived from the music of 'Twin Peaks'
Originally posted by scott shelton
All that comes to mind is SCREAM 2, which used music from BROKEN ARROW...
All that comes to mind is SCREAM 2, which used music from BROKEN ARROW...
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Marco Beltrami has certainly re-used cues and those cues are properly credited, whereas James Horner re-uses everything and tries to pass it off as original. 
The Truman Show uses music from Powaqqatsi (and some non-film Wojciech Kilar music), and Burkhard Dallwitz (who composed the rest of the brief score) received all the accolades.
The only other thing that immediately comes to mind (besides scores "quoting" other film score motifs) is the film The Book of Life which uses music from The Incredible Shrinking Man.

The Truman Show uses music from Powaqqatsi (and some non-film Wojciech Kilar music), and Burkhard Dallwitz (who composed the rest of the brief score) received all the accolades.
The only other thing that immediately comes to mind (besides scores "quoting" other film score motifs) is the film The Book of Life which uses music from The Incredible Shrinking Man.
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Originally posted by Giles
well....... Re-Animator's score was a blatant reworked version of Psycho's music.
well....... Re-Animator's score was a blatant reworked version of Psycho's music.
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You'll be hard pressed to find a single movie that has a reused score from another film
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I dont like re used scores.In fact, I was fooled into thinking a sequel of one of my favorite movies (Unbreakable) was being shown. Instead it was Bloodwork which pissed me off!



