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Old 12-18-03, 10:15 AM
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Golden Globes Nominations- ROTK just 4 nods

They just announced the Nod's for the Golden Globes.

Cold Mountain dominated with 8.

ROTK just 4(Best Drama, Best Director, Score, Best Original Song)


I hope it wins. It was the best drama.
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No nominations for the actors? Geesh.
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Sean and Elijah deserve at least nods...
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What about Last Samurai? any love?
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This is expected.

The HFPA always favors 'star driven' vehicles. Cold Mountain is not going to get even close to the critical and public love that the King will.
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I was really hoping that Sean would get nominated. His performance floored me and he deserves some recognition for it, IMO. There's always the Oscars, I guess(yeah right).
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ROTK is not the sort of vehicle for acting noms at the Globes. It was nominated in every reasonably achievable Globe category except screenplay....
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Yeah, some critic said this morning on Fox News: "When the Oscars come around, ROTK will get more technical nods. It's not really a great art picture..."

Pissed me off to no end. Does anyone remember when big epics were the first to get nods for Oscars? Just because this is a fantasy it's instantly downgraded...
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The Globes have never shown LOTR much love, so this is about what was expected.

Remember, though: the Globes are just 96 star-struck journalists whose main interest is in getting celebrities like Nicole Kidman to come to their party.

The Oscars are awarded by people who actually are involved in the business--and they've always been much more supportive of LOTR.
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Originally posted by DGibFen
Yeah, some critic said this morning on Fox News: "When the Oscars come around, ROTK will get more technical nods. It's not really a great art picture..."

Pissed me off to no end. Does anyone remember when big epics were the first to get nods for Oscars? Just because this is a fantasy it's instantly downgraded...
Ya know what DGibFen...? **** 'em.

AFAIC Peter Jackson should get an award for creating three films that were, for the most part, as faithful to the source material as was possible.

Hell, New Line should get an award for allowing PJ to film all three at the same time. I'm sitting there during the Harry Potter 3 trailer in the theatres and i'm wondering why the hell WB didn't do the same thing. I mean, we have LOtR. Granted, they're classic novels, but they seemed to have a stigma attched to them based on the past difficulty in translating them to the screen. If WB had taken the same chance and filmed the HP films in a similar fashion, perhaps whether or not the actor that plays Harry is getting too old or who's gonna replace Richard Harris would've been non-issues.

Make sense..? I mean, HP is/was an established POPULAR franchise. It's not like it was a lil self-published short story that no one had heard of. Where's the risk? In my mind, I see none.

Oh well. Back on topic....**** the critics DGibFen!
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Originally posted by Rogue588
Hell, New Line should get an award for allowing PJ to film all three at the same time. I'm sitting there during the Harry Potter 3 trailer in the theatres and i'm wondering why the hell WB didn't do the same thing. I mean, we have LOtR. Granted, they're classic novels, but they seemed to have a stigma attched to them based on the past difficulty in translating them to the screen. If WB had taken the same chance and filmed the HP films in a similar fashion, perhaps whether or not the actor that plays Harry is getting too old or who's gonna replace Richard Harris would've been non-issues.

Make sense..?
It would make no sense at all for the actors in the Harry Potter movies to be the same ages in all of the first three movies. The characters get a year older over the course of each book - they're 11 in the first one, 12 in the second one, 13 in the third one, etc. The actors have to get older along with the characters.

Incidentally, the age of the actor that plays Harry (Daniel Radcliffe) is not an issue. He's the same age as his character - and if they carry on at the speed of one movie every year and a half, he'll only be 2 years older than his character by the end. (And a 20-year-old playing an 18-year-old is MUCH closer than is usually found in movies.) It's only been made to seem like a big deal by journalists who don't seem to have thought it through properly.
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Re: Golden Globes Nominations- ROTK just 4 nods

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They just announced the Nod's for the Golden Globes.

Cold Mountain dominated with 8.

ROTK just 4(Best Drama, Best Director, Score, Best Original Song)


I hope it wins. It was the best drama.

I haven't even seen Cold Mountain yet, but I'm already put off by all the excessive marketing Miramax has done. YUCK. And the Golden Globes are awarded by the foreign press - 80 members, right? **** that. I just saw ROTK last night, and to NOT NOMINATE Sean Astin is a sin. The portrayal was the best in the film. He at least deserves a nomination. Period.

Elijah Wood and John Rhys-Davies also deserved nominations. Special recognition should be paid to Andy Serkis and the Weta FX crew for the amazing Gollum. Ian McKellen, Billy Boyd, and Miranda Otto were also excellent.

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Originally posted by Rogue588
Ya know what DGibFen...? **** 'em.

Oh well. Back on topic....**** the critics DGibFen!
Except that the most respected Critics group (NY Film Critics) gave ROTK Best Picture award.
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Several more critics and critics' groups around the country have put ROTK at the top of their lists. Southeastern Critics group, Michael Wilmington and Mark Caro in Chicago Tribune, etc.

Cold Mountain is at only 63% fresh at this point and is not appearing on many critics' best-of-year lists:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ColdMountain-1128336/

The Globes have always been at least somewhat out of step with critical and popular consensus.

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Best Drama and Best Director are a show in.

Sam should have been given a nod for Best supporting actor.

Andy Serkis "Best Something", he did get an MTV award last year.
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Originally posted by Rogue588
Ya know what DGibFen...? **** 'em.

Oh well. Back on topic....**** the critics DGibFen!

[EXCEPT the highly accurate NY Film Critics Group ]
Fixed, Grimfarrow
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I've long ago given up on the validity of any of these so-called mainstream awards shows, ie GG & Oscars. They seldom choose any of the right films for any of the categories. Just look at their past record.
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Lets see, ROTK is at the top of many critics 10 best lists for the year and more people have/will see it and like/love it more than any other film in 2003.

I've seen most of the other films that are being mentioned and although ROTK has it's flaws it is easily better than the rest of the field.

It should win, If it doesn't the Oscars go the way of the Grammy's - a joke. I don't always agree with the Academy's choice of Best Picture but most of the time I can understand it.

They have a chance to give a deserving film the Oscar and bring a whole new generation of new movie fans into the fold. Let's see if they blow it. I gotta belive that most actors, directors, producers and others who make up the academy know what went into to the making ROTK and reward it accordingly.

Best Picture.
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Every time I see something win at the Golden Globes, I just keep thinking: "They gave Richard Gere a best actor award." I knew in my bones that was just so wrong, especially since Gere was the worst thing about Chicago. Then, when he wasn't even nominated for an oscar, oh, how I was vindicated.

I never really understood the point of the golden globes. It's just 80 or 90 random people who get together and hand out statues. So what? Why is this thing getting almost as much hype as the oscars? I don't understand it.
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Originally posted by mike45
I've long ago given up on the validity of any of these so-called mainstream awards shows, ie GG & Oscars. They seldom choose any of the right films for any of the categories. Just look at their past record.
Huh, really? And who's to say which films are the "right" ones? You? Why does your opinion trump somebody else's? There is no "right" opinion and the idea that the Academy sucks because they don't agree with everybody's opinion is simply getting old. It's all subjective and the sooner people learn to live with that, the happier you will all be.
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Just think: Jim Carrey has 2 Golden Globes.
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I cant still understand Shakespear in Love over Saving Private Ryan.........


If Lord of the Rings doesnt win, then at least we can help Peter Jackson get a nice paycheck for the repeat viewings of this film.
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I liked Shakespeare in Love much more than Saving Private Ryan.

It's just a matter of opinion.

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