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Old 12-11-03 | 12:48 AM
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Do you respect a band less when you know its a christian band?

I have nothing against christians, and am a practicing catholic myself, but I don't regard a "christian" band as much as I would a band.

I can't explain it, but when I realized what evanescence was about, I felt heartfallen. It doesn't make me dislike the music, but it makes me feel that the singers incredible voice has gone to waste.








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Old 12-11-03 | 12:51 AM
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I respect a band less when they don't hold to their beliefs/convictions to conform to others ideas of what's right/wrong or what's popular...

Not saying Evanescence is an example...
Old 12-11-03 | 12:55 AM
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I think Creed sucks, if that's what you're getting at.
Old 12-11-03 | 12:58 AM
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imo, most of the "christian" bands that i know of suck anyhow, regardless of their spirituality.
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yea, Creed sucks
Old 12-11-03 | 01:40 AM
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Originally posted by Hollowgen
imo, most of the "christian" bands that i know of suck anyhow, regardless of their spirituality.
I agree.

I was a little dissapointed when I found out that Chevelle was on a christian label (this was when they didn't have a website, or a fan base.)

I don't know how much of their stuff has any relation to the church, because I don't like their new sound, but I don't really like religion mixing with music at all anyway.


also: Creed sucks. That is all.
Old 12-11-03 | 02:35 AM
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Why should this turn me against any artist, if their music is good? As long as they're not obnoxious about it, making every other line "Jesus" (a la Eric Cartman in a recent South Park ) it's fine.

That being said, I have yet to find a good 'Christian' band unless I'm unaware of it. The closest I get is probably The Man in Black.
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No, as long as they have a great sound i will buy and listen to there music, i grew up listening to "Stryper" to this day i still play there cd's, in my opinion they play great hard rock music along with some kickass ballads, and with todays so called christian bands "Evanescence" is a great new band, and by the way "Creed" does not suck they are an excellent band i have all three of there cd's and have no complaints with there music, with all the Crap Metal out there these bands are refreshing...
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Please help:
What exactly do you have to do to qualify as a christian band?
Sing spiritual songs?
Quote the Bible?
Just thank God in the booklet?
Or is it just how you interpret the lyrics?

I'm really confused. I heard Lifehouse ("No Name Face" is one of my favourite albums) is also labeled as christian, still I don't find any real proof in their lyrics. Same with most of MXPX's lyrics.
Old 12-11-03 | 03:02 AM
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No.

But I guess it's no different than me disliking RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE for all it's socialist/communist views....
Old 12-11-03 | 03:09 AM
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Wait, wait, Evanescence is a Chr... Chevelle is a Chris... Lifehouse is a Christian band????

What???
Old 12-11-03 | 04:58 AM
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I thought Evanescence was adamant about making it clear that they are not, nor do they pretend to be, a Christian band of any sort.
Old 12-11-03 | 07:34 AM
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Only if they really try to sell themselves and play up the image to sell records, but otherwise not really. It gets a little tired if they get too preachy at times, but you can say the same about many non-christian bands too, especially RATM- that got old real quick. For me the music is the deciding factor (what a concept eh). I used to listen to these "christian" thrash bands like The Crucified that would preach and scorn bands like Slayer, but I just enjoyed it for the music, didn't take what they were saying too seriously. Then again, you can't take what a lot of non-religious bands say too seriously either, like Slayer, otherwise I'd be in the Serial Killer hall of fame by now.
Old 12-11-03 | 08:31 AM
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I really like Pedro the Lion, and he's not preachy at all.
Some imagery is brought into the songs, but it's not so painfully obvious as most christian bands.
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I think Chevelle (Albini produced their last album for cripes sake), POD, Evanescence and some of the other bands mentioned are christians that form a band, not a christian band. That said yes Creed sucks, but that is regardless of their beleifs.
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Originally posted by custom001
Just thank God in the booklet?
If that were the case, there would be a lot of Christian bands

"Christian" music is just like any other music style, IMO. There's good music and bad music.

The only thing that really defines Christian music are the lyrics, and even those don't have to mention God.

I think it's the recent influx of Christian groups suddenly "breaking" into the "mainstream" and all of the Christians standing on the sidelines going "Yay!" (or "Boo!" depending on who you are talking to).

An interesting book on the subject is The Rock and Roll Rebellion by Mark Joseph. He writes on how there were Christians in the 60-70's who sought general market deals with their music, but eventually created their own little "ghetto" to distribute and sell. He thinks that's why the whole stigma about Christian music began with the general market and public.

It's a pretty fasinating read. He also has another book on the subject called Faith, God, & Rock 'N' Roll. I think it's more based on looking at actual artists, from the brief look I've had at it.

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Old 12-11-03 | 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by ZakVTA
I thought Evanescence was adamant about making it clear that they are not, nor do they pretend to be, a Christian band of any sort.
is this what you are talking about?


"Evanescence ran head first into controversy promoting Fallen. Originally, it was released in the Christian and secular markets; however, the band's use of profanity during an interview with Rolling Stone prompted its label, Wind-Up Records, to recall Fallen from Christian stores. Ironically, 12 Stones is also labeled Christian. Fallen surpassed double platinum, making the Top Ten in the United States, including the Top Contemporary Christian Albums chart, the Top Five in Canada, and number one in the United Kingdom"
Old 12-11-03 | 01:30 PM
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threre is nothing better than some good 'ole satanic metal (death, black ,etc.). and this is coming frome someone who went to catholic school from K thru college.

metal is best when satanic. praise the fallen one.

did anyone catch "friends" last week?
Old 12-11-03 | 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by RoQuEr
is this what you are talking about?


"Evanescence ran head first into controversy promoting Fallen. Originally, it was released in the Christian and secular markets; however, the band's use of profanity during an interview with Rolling Stone prompted its label, Wind-Up Records, to recall Fallen from Christian stores. Ironically, 12 Stones is also labeled Christian. Fallen surpassed double platinum, making the Top Ten in the United States, including the Top Contemporary Christian Albums chart, the Top Five in Canada, and number one in the United Kingdom"
Well, mainly after reading this thread.
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I guess to me there are the Christian bands that make it goal to preach through their music and the Christians who are in bands and sometimes the lyrics show.

I like bands in both the groups, but I tend to own more cds by the latter.

Bands that I like: Havalina Rail Co, Pedro the Lion, Plankeye, MxPx, Over the Rhine, Sonicflood, Tree63, Poor Old Lu, Aaron Sprinkle, Blenderhead, Starflyer 59, Project 86, Chevelle, Sixpence None the Richer, and others.
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I wasn't aware that Starflyer 59 is christian, they are pretty elite.
Old 12-11-03 | 05:51 PM
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if you think christian music cant be totally awesome....listen to EXTOL...man that band is awesome.
Old 12-11-03 | 06:23 PM
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Trouble from Chicago, on Metal Blade is a pretty heavy band in the vein of Black Sabbath.
Old 12-11-03 | 08:48 PM
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I have to say that I'm shocked to hear Pedro The Lion is Christian. Then again, lyrics like "This is how we multiply / Pity that it's not my wife" don't exactly smack of Christian beliefs. Did they disown him upon the release of Control?


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