Van Halen reunion news?
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Van Halen reunion news?
Melodicrock.com, a site that is very accurate and refuses to print news until they have confirmation (they've been debunking VH reunion rumours for over a year now), has announced that Sammy Hagar is coming back to the band.
Keep in mind that with Eddie Van Halen's ego being so volitile, one wrong word could sink the ship.
You can find the article on the MR homepage:
http://www.melodicrock.com/
Keep in mind that with Eddie Van Halen's ego being so volitile, one wrong word could sink the ship.
You can find the article on the MR homepage:
http://www.melodicrock.com/
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VAN HALEN WILL RETURN IN 2004 - AT LONG LAST!:
Van Halen is on the verge of a long awaited comeback. Long tortured fans are about to be put out of their misery, as the band looks ready to fire in 2004.
Details are still sketchy as plans are still in the very early stages of development and are therefore continuing to change as issues are sorted through.
Sammy Hagar is set to return to his role as Van Halen's lead vocalist. Original frontman David Lee Roth is not associated with this re-union.
Here's what's been happening, pieced together from a couple of my well known and reliable sources.
It's not clear who initiated first contact. I was told that Eddie & Alex Van Halen called Sammy Hagar, while it was also suggested to me that it was Sammy that called the brothers out of the blue.
Either way, contact was established and an attempt to bury the hatchet was made.
Sammy Hagar then made a trip to Eddie's house and the 5150 studio. The idea was to see if Sammy, Ed and Alex could in fact put the events of the last 7 years behind them and work together again.
It was also a chance for Sammy to hear the material that has so far been written and recorded by Eddie and Alex. I'm told there have since been a few more meetings – which were apparently both good and bad, but issues are being dealt with and a future discussed.
Hagar has apparently already told members of his solo band of his plans to re-join Van Halen.
Hagar's legal team is already in discussion with Van Halen's legal team.
I was told that bass player Michael Anthony was not present at the first meeting and I am not yet aware of him meeting again with Ed and Alex, who he hasn't talked to for a couple of years now. But I was told that Sammy has insisted that Michael is part of the re-union line-up.
There is no timetable in place as yet for this re-union. As I said, this is still in the very early stages of being developed. A few ideas are still being considered – such as playing a few shows to get things started before recording/finishing a brand new studio album.
What is almost definite though are plans for a new studio album – hoped to be ready for mid-2004, but possibly not until late 2004 - followed by a tour.
News leaked overnight of the band's intention to sign a new management deal with Irving Azoff Management. Azoff's office has made the official "no comment" on the matter, but expect this high profile management company to confirm their equally high profile signing soon.
Irving Azoff is a well known and powerful manager, who currently has The Eagles, Christina Aguilera, Seal, Jewel and of course Journey on his roster.
Azoff has also been Sammy Hagar's solo manager for the last couple of years.
As far as record labels go, Warner Brothers still has a relationship with the band, given that every album they have released has been with the label. I'm told that they will certainly be the first in line to sign the band should everything work out as planned.
Irving Azoff also has a strong relationship with the label.
Sanctuary Records is being talked about as a possible home for the band, but don't expect that to happen. Hagar had a solo deal with that label, but only for the Greatest Hits Live release and a yet to eventuate re-issue of his solo albums Ten 13 and Not For Sale, which should still happen when the current deal with the two issuing labels for those albums finish.
Not so good news for fans of the Diamond one. David Lee Roth is apparently out of the picture. It seems another attempt to work with him was made after the denied at the time get together in 2000. Once again it didn't work out and the Van Halen brothers have seemingly ruled out any future attempt to work with him.
This is the first contact the brothers have had with Hagar since he departed the band in a storm of ill-feeling in 1996.
Planet Us, the all-star project featuring Sammy Hagar, Michael Anthony, Neal Schon, Deen Castronovo and Joe Satriani is all but over – and has been for some time. The project has been left in the hands of guitarist Schon and drummer Castronovo. One rumor is that Neal Schon is still interested in such an album and has another singer in mind.
The guys only recorded two tracks together – Vertigo and Peeping Through A Hole – neither of which has been released officially.
There is still more to come.
I had planned to gather more information over the course of this week and the weekend, but the leaked news of the Azoff management deal by the music industry website Hits Daily Double has moved the timetable forward. A new Greatest Hits album was one of the rumors leaked in association with the management news. But, to date I have heard no mention of such a plan, unless the band wants to get something into the public's hands while they work on a new studio record. I personally do not see such a thing happening. Could it be time for the Van Hagar CD re-masters to be re-issued?
This is a slowly developing situation and of course, nothing has been announced officially. When this will happen is another major question.
The answer is one I hope to bring to you in due course, along with further developments and details of any firm plans that have been put in place.
It's nice to be able to bring such positive news to long suffering Van Halen fans. It's news I have the utmost confidence in.
Van Halen is on the verge of a long awaited comeback. Long tortured fans are about to be put out of their misery, as the band looks ready to fire in 2004.
Details are still sketchy as plans are still in the very early stages of development and are therefore continuing to change as issues are sorted through.
Sammy Hagar is set to return to his role as Van Halen's lead vocalist. Original frontman David Lee Roth is not associated with this re-union.
Here's what's been happening, pieced together from a couple of my well known and reliable sources.
It's not clear who initiated first contact. I was told that Eddie & Alex Van Halen called Sammy Hagar, while it was also suggested to me that it was Sammy that called the brothers out of the blue.
Either way, contact was established and an attempt to bury the hatchet was made.
Sammy Hagar then made a trip to Eddie's house and the 5150 studio. The idea was to see if Sammy, Ed and Alex could in fact put the events of the last 7 years behind them and work together again.
It was also a chance for Sammy to hear the material that has so far been written and recorded by Eddie and Alex. I'm told there have since been a few more meetings – which were apparently both good and bad, but issues are being dealt with and a future discussed.
Hagar has apparently already told members of his solo band of his plans to re-join Van Halen.
Hagar's legal team is already in discussion with Van Halen's legal team.
I was told that bass player Michael Anthony was not present at the first meeting and I am not yet aware of him meeting again with Ed and Alex, who he hasn't talked to for a couple of years now. But I was told that Sammy has insisted that Michael is part of the re-union line-up.
There is no timetable in place as yet for this re-union. As I said, this is still in the very early stages of being developed. A few ideas are still being considered – such as playing a few shows to get things started before recording/finishing a brand new studio album.
What is almost definite though are plans for a new studio album – hoped to be ready for mid-2004, but possibly not until late 2004 - followed by a tour.
News leaked overnight of the band's intention to sign a new management deal with Irving Azoff Management. Azoff's office has made the official "no comment" on the matter, but expect this high profile management company to confirm their equally high profile signing soon.
Irving Azoff is a well known and powerful manager, who currently has The Eagles, Christina Aguilera, Seal, Jewel and of course Journey on his roster.
Azoff has also been Sammy Hagar's solo manager for the last couple of years.
As far as record labels go, Warner Brothers still has a relationship with the band, given that every album they have released has been with the label. I'm told that they will certainly be the first in line to sign the band should everything work out as planned.
Irving Azoff also has a strong relationship with the label.
Sanctuary Records is being talked about as a possible home for the band, but don't expect that to happen. Hagar had a solo deal with that label, but only for the Greatest Hits Live release and a yet to eventuate re-issue of his solo albums Ten 13 and Not For Sale, which should still happen when the current deal with the two issuing labels for those albums finish.
Not so good news for fans of the Diamond one. David Lee Roth is apparently out of the picture. It seems another attempt to work with him was made after the denied at the time get together in 2000. Once again it didn't work out and the Van Halen brothers have seemingly ruled out any future attempt to work with him.
This is the first contact the brothers have had with Hagar since he departed the band in a storm of ill-feeling in 1996.
Planet Us, the all-star project featuring Sammy Hagar, Michael Anthony, Neal Schon, Deen Castronovo and Joe Satriani is all but over – and has been for some time. The project has been left in the hands of guitarist Schon and drummer Castronovo. One rumor is that Neal Schon is still interested in such an album and has another singer in mind.
The guys only recorded two tracks together – Vertigo and Peeping Through A Hole – neither of which has been released officially.
There is still more to come.
I had planned to gather more information over the course of this week and the weekend, but the leaked news of the Azoff management deal by the music industry website Hits Daily Double has moved the timetable forward. A new Greatest Hits album was one of the rumors leaked in association with the management news. But, to date I have heard no mention of such a plan, unless the band wants to get something into the public's hands while they work on a new studio record. I personally do not see such a thing happening. Could it be time for the Van Hagar CD re-masters to be re-issued?
This is a slowly developing situation and of course, nothing has been announced officially. When this will happen is another major question.
The answer is one I hope to bring to you in due course, along with further developments and details of any firm plans that have been put in place.
It's nice to be able to bring such positive news to long suffering Van Halen fans. It's news I have the utmost confidence in.
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Originally posted by Iron Chef
no Dave?
no Dave?
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Originally posted by Fielding Mellish
If it's Hagar, I don't consider it a true reunion. No Dave = No Sale
The true VH ceased to be in 1984.
If it's Hagar, I don't consider it a true reunion. No Dave = No Sale

The true VH ceased to be in 1984.
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I hope this is true.
I really got into VH in 96, right when all this crap with Hagar went down. I loved the darker direction they were going in with Balance... and Humans Being from Twister and Best of Volume 1 is one of my favorite VH songs.
I really got into VH in 96, right when all this crap with Hagar went down. I loved the darker direction they were going in with Balance... and Humans Being from Twister and Best of Volume 1 is one of my favorite VH songs.
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Originally posted by Fielding Mellish
If it's Hagar, I don't consider it a true reunion. No Dave = No Sale
The true VH ceased to be in 1984.
If it's Hagar, I don't consider it a true reunion. No Dave = No Sale

The true VH ceased to be in 1984.
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Originally posted by KnightLerxst
Personally I think VH did their best stuff during the Hagar era, yeah one too many songs about love, but Roth sang one too many about *****.
Personally I think VH did their best stuff during the Hagar era, yeah one too many songs about love, but Roth sang one too many about *****.
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I liked both incarnations but the fact is they were losing steam at the time Hagar was dumped. The teased at reunion was one of the most exciting things in rock during the summer of 96 but then the brothers decided to go with Gary Cherone
At this point the only thing that would be interesting would be a reunion tour with Dave since a generation has grown up without ever seeing the Roth fronted band live. Maybe I am wrong but I just don't see many fans getting overly excited about Sammy coming back.
At this point the only thing that would be interesting would be a reunion tour with Dave since a generation has grown up without ever seeing the Roth fronted band live. Maybe I am wrong but I just don't see many fans getting overly excited about Sammy coming back.
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I'm wondering if this will mirror the DLR reunion...
...that is, reunite for just 2 songs and include them on a much-needed Best Of Vol 2
...that is, reunite for just 2 songs and include them on a much-needed Best Of Vol 2
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Sammy Haggar could take the most rockin' song and make it pu**y. Take the song from Twister. That riff is killer. Yet when Haggar gets it, it's a stupid a** love song. Dave NEVER did that. Van Haggar is AWFUL.
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Originally posted by wfujosh
Sammy Haggar could take the most rockin' song and make it pu**y. Take the song from Twister. That riff is killer. Yet when Haggar gets it, it's a stupid a** love song. Dave NEVER did that. Van Haggar is AWFUL.
Sammy Haggar could take the most rockin' song and make it pu**y. Take the song from Twister. That riff is killer. Yet when Haggar gets it, it's a stupid a** love song. Dave NEVER did that. Van Haggar is AWFUL.
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Didn't Dave and Sammy go on tour together a couple of years ago after the canceled reunion?
I was never a big Van Haggar fan, but I hated the way the punk ass bitc.., I mean, the Van Halen brothers got rid of both Dave and Sammy, then say it was their decision. Once okay, but twice? Are you boys that high to think anyone is buying that?
I was never a big Van Haggar fan, but I hated the way the punk ass bitc.., I mean, the Van Halen brothers got rid of both Dave and Sammy, then say it was their decision. Once okay, but twice? Are you boys that high to think anyone is buying that?
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While Dave was fun (I even saw him this year, upclose at a House Of Blues show) he is too old to re-join VH. Sammy on the other hand, regularly blew DLR off the stage at their combo shows, and still "has it".
If anyone was gonna re-join VH, I'm glad it's Sammy
If anyone was gonna re-join VH, I'm glad it's Sammy
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I guess I'm one of the few that is excited to see Sammy coming back. But I do agree there were too many love songs during his time with VH. So my suggestion would be to cut the love songs and bring back the true Van Halen rock and roll that we all enjoyed many years ago.
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I've liked all 3 incarnations of Van Halen for different reasons. The Roth era had the best party music. Sammy brought an opportunity for the band to expand musically, and he has better range than Dave. Gary (unlike Sammy) was willing to perform the old VH material, and he was damn good singing a lot of it (especially Humans Being). We don't know what would have happened to the band if he had stayed, but as a fan of Cherone's before he joined, I'm sure it would have been much better than VH3.
Oh, and all you Cherone haters should be thankful - until Gary joined the band, Eddie had fallen into a rut, and was no longer the creative guitar genius of old.
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Oh, and all you Cherone haters should be thankful - until Gary joined the band, Eddie had fallen into a rut, and was no longer the creative guitar genius of old.
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Originally posted by wfujosh
Sammy Haggar could take the most rockin' song and make it pu**y. Take the song from Twister. That riff is killer. Yet when Haggar gets it, it's a stupid a** love song. Dave NEVER did that. Van Haggar is AWFUL.
Sammy Haggar could take the most rockin' song and make it pu**y. Take the song from Twister. That riff is killer. Yet when Haggar gets it, it's a stupid a** love song. Dave NEVER did that. Van Haggar is AWFUL.
There is just enough Christ in me
To make me feel almost guilty
Is that why God made us breed
To make us see we're Humans Being?
You break this, I'll break all that
You break my balls with all your crap
Spread your disease like lemmings breeding
That's what makes us Humans Being
Shine on, shine on
Shine on, shine on
(Guitar Solo)
Yeah! Some low life flat head scum infects
The sickness in his eyes reflects
You wonder why your life is screaming
Wonder why we're Humans Being
Shine on, shine on
Shine on, shine on
(Guitar Solo)
Humans, Humans Being
We're just Humans (That's what makes us)
Humans Being (That's what makes us)
We're just humans (That's what makes us)
Humans Being (That's what makes us) We're just humans (That's what makes us)
Humans Being (That's what makes us)
Humans Being!
We're just humans (That's what makes us)
Humans Being (That's what makes us)
Humans Being!
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Originally posted by JestersTear
It's funny how VH fans (especially the die-hard Roth fans) can turn into total neanderthals over a lead singer.
I've never seen another band where a membership change can actually lead to people resorting to physical violence because they disagree as to who is better.
And the oh-so-witty comments. Real Mensa material there.
I've liked all 3 incarnations of Van Halen for different reasons. The Roth era had the best party music. Sammy brought an opportunity for the band to expand musically, and he has better range than Dave. Gary (unlike Sammy) was willing to perform the old VH material, and he was damn good singing a lot of it (especially Humans Being). We don't know what would have happened to the band if he had stayed, but as a fan of Cherone's before he joined, I'm sure it would have been much better than VH3.
Oh, and all you Cherone haters should be thankful - until Gary joined the band, Eddie had fallen into a rut, and was no longer the creative guitar genius of old. Of course the only real change in Eddies sound was that he tried hard to sound like Nuno Bettencourt from Extreme (Cherone's previous band), but at least it was something different.
It's funny how VH fans (especially the die-hard Roth fans) can turn into total neanderthals over a lead singer.
I've never seen another band where a membership change can actually lead to people resorting to physical violence because they disagree as to who is better.
And the oh-so-witty comments. Real Mensa material there.
I've liked all 3 incarnations of Van Halen for different reasons. The Roth era had the best party music. Sammy brought an opportunity for the band to expand musically, and he has better range than Dave. Gary (unlike Sammy) was willing to perform the old VH material, and he was damn good singing a lot of it (especially Humans Being). We don't know what would have happened to the band if he had stayed, but as a fan of Cherone's before he joined, I'm sure it would have been much better than VH3.
Oh, and all you Cherone haters should be thankful - until Gary joined the band, Eddie had fallen into a rut, and was no longer the creative guitar genius of old. Of course the only real change in Eddies sound was that he tried hard to sound like Nuno Bettencourt from Extreme (Cherone's previous band), but at least it was something different.
What the hell ever happened to Nuno? I was a big fan of Extreme, back in the day.
As for VH, I never could listen to the Cherone stuff, but I liked all of Dave's and most of Sammy's stuff. 5150 was a kick ass CD.



