Questions/comments on my new HDTV
10-29-03 | 01:48 PM
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Questions/comments on my new HDTV
I've had my Mitsubishi WS-65413 for a week now and I have some questions/comments that I could use some info on.
Inputs: Motorola 5100 from Comcast, Denon DVD-2200, Cyberhome CH-DVD 500 (region free). All are connected via component cables (DVI has not been enabled on the Motorola box yet).
Initial thoughts: Overall the TV is great and meets my expectations. I had heard that standard cable might not look great and this is true, but the HD stuff is wonderful (come on Comcast, where's CBS/WB/UPN?). I'm using the Stretch format on 4:3 material as only the material on the sides appear stretched and nothing is chopped off the top and bottom. My only real complaint is the amount of glare from the protective screen. Unfortunately, I don't dare take it off with small kids in the house.
Questions:
I have DVE, but I heard that the TV should be "broken in" first. How long should I wait?
If I run DVE from the Denon, should I apply the same results to the HD input?
Should I tweak the CH input separately or just replicate the Denon results?
What is considered acceptable overscan?
4:3 HD material has only one stretch format available and it's somewhat annoying. How much material can I watch with the black (or gray on SD) sidebars without getting burn-in?
Any basic "gotcha" issues that I may be forgetting?
Thanks in advance for the comments/feedback!
Inputs: Motorola 5100 from Comcast, Denon DVD-2200, Cyberhome CH-DVD 500 (region free). All are connected via component cables (DVI has not been enabled on the Motorola box yet).
Initial thoughts: Overall the TV is great and meets my expectations. I had heard that standard cable might not look great and this is true, but the HD stuff is wonderful (come on Comcast, where's CBS/WB/UPN?). I'm using the Stretch format on 4:3 material as only the material on the sides appear stretched and nothing is chopped off the top and bottom. My only real complaint is the amount of glare from the protective screen. Unfortunately, I don't dare take it off with small kids in the house.
Questions:
I have DVE, but I heard that the TV should be "broken in" first. How long should I wait?
If I run DVE from the Denon, should I apply the same results to the HD input?
Should I tweak the CH input separately or just replicate the Denon results?
What is considered acceptable overscan?
4:3 HD material has only one stretch format available and it's somewhat annoying. How much material can I watch with the black (or gray on SD) sidebars without getting burn-in?
Any basic "gotcha" issues that I may be forgetting?
Thanks in advance for the comments/feedback!
10-29-03 | 02:31 PM
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We have a similar Mitsu (the 65819). Glare screen is off, which does help. (No kids!)
You should use DVE now anyway, to get the contrast, color and brightness down to near their right elvels. This will also help prevent burn-in. (High contrast is a major cause of burn-in, and Mitsu's ship with the default factory setting of 100%!) Watching with grey sidebars won't cause any problems with lowered contrast/color. But you'll get used to the stretch mode pretty quickly--we did, and never watch even regular non-HD cable on 4:3 mode.
Overcan of about 4-5% is considered good/optimal. And it should be uniform on all sides. I assume you also did the advanced (64-point) convergence on the user set-up menu.
I think the inputs have to be calibrated separately.
For answers to all your Mitsu tweak questions, visit hometheaterspot.com. Great forum with many Mitsu experts. Accessing the tweaks requires membership, but it is well worth the @$25. You can get step-by-step descriptions on how to do everything, incl. adding non-reflective cloth to the inside, accessing the service menus on the remote, etc.
The service menus are key, because you can adjust the overscan easily, and also straighten out the grid lines (green grid on the advanced 64-point calibration screen), which you can't do thru user menus. With DVE (I used AVia) and HTS, you can get your tv set up *very* nicely--better than 95% of the ones you'll see in stores and at friends' houses.
You should use DVE now anyway, to get the contrast, color and brightness down to near their right elvels. This will also help prevent burn-in. (High contrast is a major cause of burn-in, and Mitsu's ship with the default factory setting of 100%!) Watching with grey sidebars won't cause any problems with lowered contrast/color. But you'll get used to the stretch mode pretty quickly--we did, and never watch even regular non-HD cable on 4:3 mode.
Overcan of about 4-5% is considered good/optimal. And it should be uniform on all sides. I assume you also did the advanced (64-point) convergence on the user set-up menu.
I think the inputs have to be calibrated separately.
For answers to all your Mitsu tweak questions, visit hometheaterspot.com. Great forum with many Mitsu experts. Accessing the tweaks requires membership, but it is well worth the @$25. You can get step-by-step descriptions on how to do everything, incl. adding non-reflective cloth to the inside, accessing the service menus on the remote, etc.
The service menus are key, because you can adjust the overscan easily, and also straighten out the grid lines (green grid on the advanced 64-point calibration screen), which you can't do thru user menus. With DVE (I used AVia) and HTS, you can get your tv set up *very* nicely--better than 95% of the ones you'll see in stores and at friends' houses.
10-30-03 | 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by drmoze
We have a similar Mitsu (the 65819). Glare screen is off, which does help. (No kids!)
You should use DVE now anyway, to get the contrast, color and brightness down to near their right elvels. This will also help prevent burn-in. (High contrast is a major cause of burn-in, and Mitsu's ship with the default factory setting of 100%!) Watching with grey sidebars won't cause any problems with lowered contrast/color. But you'll get used to the stretch mode pretty quickly--we did, and never watch even regular non-HD cable on 4:3 mode.
Overcan of about 4-5% is considered good/optimal. And it should be uniform on all sides. I assume you also did the advanced (64-point) convergence on the user set-up menu.
I think the inputs have to be calibrated separately.
We have a similar Mitsu (the 65819). Glare screen is off, which does help. (No kids!)
You should use DVE now anyway, to get the contrast, color and brightness down to near their right elvels. This will also help prevent burn-in. (High contrast is a major cause of burn-in, and Mitsu's ship with the default factory setting of 100%!) Watching with grey sidebars won't cause any problems with lowered contrast/color. But you'll get used to the stretch mode pretty quickly--we did, and never watch even regular non-HD cable on 4:3 mode.
Overcan of about 4-5% is considered good/optimal. And it should be uniform on all sides. I assume you also did the advanced (64-point) convergence on the user set-up menu.
I think the inputs have to be calibrated separately.
Some followup:
If I use DVE now, is there a standard "break in" period after which I should recalibrate?
How do I calibrate the HDTV input? Do I hook up the DVD player to that input or can I write down all the results from the Denon input and use those on the HDTV input as that would be much easier?
If I go into the service menu don't I void the warranty? I don't mind doing it if the tweaks are fairly straightforward, but I'd hate to really mess everything up.
