Everything that I have seen seems to show that the screen will fill a film shot in 1:85:1, but anything bigger it will have small black bars at the top and bottom, which I know is expected. So, are there any Plasma TVs on the market or that are planned for the future that will fill completely when watching a 2:35:1. Ideally, money is not a factor so whatever you can come up with, would be much appreciated. Also, if you happen to have a link to this 2:35:1 Plasma TV, could you please post a link so I may check it out. Thanks!

None as of yet.

It makes no sense. If they make the widscreen (2:35;1) compatible, you could adjust the picture to fill both aspect ratios, with no "black bars", making a widescreen TV that is only fills with 1:85:1 is just terrible.
Please tell me that some intelligent person who makes TVs understands this and is planning to do this sometime in the near future. It would also be great to be able to adjust the TV, so that if you were watching a movie that was in OAR, but was only 1:33:1(such as Star Trek the Next generation) the TV would then adjust the size, meaning no black bar problems ever again. Can someone please do this

And if you show a 1.85:1 movie on a 2.35:1 screen without a distort mode you will have to shrink the picture and have black bars on the sides then, no? You mention getting 1.33:1 Star Trek episodes to fit on a 2.35:1 widescreen TV. If you use the zoom, wide or panorama mode you'd be able to fill the screen with the picture. Of course you'd either cut off half the picture or make the image twice as fat to get rid of the "black bars".

Black bars are not a problem!

The problem is that televisions are currently unable to change aspect ratios at will. Until they come out with a TV set that will morph to the aspect ratio of the currently playing program people will keep complaining about those black bars.

So, try to get used to those black bars. Get a big enough television and you shouldn't even care.

Yes it does. Believe ot or not the people who design television sets did put some thought into choosing the 16:9 aspect ratio. They didn't do it just to piss you off.

The 16:9 ratio was chosen because mathematically it was the ideal compromise to accomodate aspect ratios ranging from 1.33:1 to 2.35:1 while displaying the least amount of "black bars."

If you were to buy a 2.35:1 aspect ratio television, you would have rather massive black bars while watching 1.33:1 material, as well as black bars while viewing 1.85:1 material.

I just don't see the benefit, unless you for some reason choose to watch only films shot at 2.35:1, which would be rather ridiculous.

You could always get a front projector and a screen with automatic mattes.

Why do people insist on butchering films to avoid some small black bars on their screens? Now that "doesn't make sense!" You may as well just keep a 4x3 TV and buy VHS tapes that will " fill the screen"!

TURN YOUR LIGHTS OFF THEN YOU WILL ONLY SEE THE MOVIE NOT THE BLACKNESS WHICH HAS YOU ALL UPSET! I have about 2000 of the beautiful to me with the lights off 2.35:1 OAR and 99% are anamorphically enhanced!


You go to a movie theater, to get your attention the fade to black; but they DON'T turn the lights back on until the end of the movie. You have home theatre act like your in a movie theater and turn off the LIGHTS or pull the shades!

My God.....and I thought I was incoherrant. danol I didn't understand a word you just said. I tried first by reading it again, then I tried reading it like a child(which I thought would have made sense), but alas this still didn't make any sense. I am not trying to be dissrespectful to you in any way, but if there ever was a need for a slogan for "Don't do drugs", I have to say your reply greatly enforces that claim.

I think some of you that pick on Danol have serious issues. It makes perfect sense. Turn off the lights so you'll look at the movie and not the screen. Make sure your brightness is not too high, or the bars will "glow", they need to be black.

And I'd expect better of a moderator.

milo bloom if, as a long-term member of the DVDTalk.com site, I choose to "laugh" at the humour I saw in Dalvin's latest reply here then laugh I will!

I'm not absolutely sure why you bring Danol into this but if you have an issue with my posting here - in a forum where I have no moderating powers and no particular history - then please feel free to take it up directly either with someone who moderates this forum or with Geoff.

Since Dalvin is a fairly new member here, he may not be familiar with Danol's posting style. I know if I saw a reply like that to one of my posts, I'd be like WTF...is this a joke???

My problem is because some of Danol's writing is a little out there, that particular post right up there /\ is perfectly understandable. Turn out the lights just like in the theater.

Oddly enough, Danol's post was *perfectly* sensible and understandable. OTOH, I could not make *any* sense of Dalvin's post [below]. He seems not to have a clue and somehow appears to think that the aspect ratio of a tv can be made to somehow fit all aspect ratios. Although his first sentence is fair warning about the nature of his post!

Finally, the clash we've all been waiting for: Dalvin vs. Danol.

I never realized they were different people until I saw them both in this thread.

Why don't we wrap this up then? Outside of using a projector with adjustable mattes, we would have to get a time machine, capture one of those liquid metal terminators that can change it's shape, recombulate it's programming and make it think it's a tv. Then you will have something that can adjust to the aspect ratio of whatever is playing and there will be no black bars.

Touched by Danol. LOL.

Dalvin

if u want a tv to display 2.35:1 ratio then get a front projector. u can they adjust the display size to any ratio u want. thereby always having the correct display aspect. other wise just learn to live with the bars. PRTV and TUBE-TVs will never hit 2.35:1 when the new DTV specs for ATSC require 16:9 ..... ur just SOL

sorry man \