Now I'm wondering about that R rating
"Hollywood star Uma Thurman has blasted Kill Bill's chances of winning any Oscars next year, insisting that it's far too violent. The Quentin Tarantino film, which has been split into two for a staggered cinematic release, has been the subject of much Academy Awards gossip - because Oscar rules state each episode must be nominated individually. But Uma - who picked up an Oscar nod for her role in Tarantino's 1994 film Pulp Fiction - is convinced the martial arts saga has no hope of winning any awards next March. She says, "It will be highly unlikely that happens again this time. "The story is split and it's so violent I don't think the Academy will like it. It doesn't pander to the Oscar community."

first Lucy Liu says that we may need barf bags to get through the movie, now to this, I'm convinced that the mpaa will give this an NC-17 (or the 2 part split was the only way to gaurentee an R)

Sorry, but it's one film split in two. it will get a R for sure. MPAA might WANT to give it an NC-17 but then it's always a simple matter of slightly cutting two seconds of the slicing in half of that random guy and resubmission to get an R.

I don't see how spliting it in two had any effect on it getting an R.

I think it wont get an oscar nod for the simple reason that it looks like a Kung fu inspired action film. Not the best material for oscar nods if you ask me. Not saying it wont be a great film, just that it wont be an Oscar hit.

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Miramax will not release the movie with an NC-17 rating, I promise you that. They need this movie to be a success at the box office and the NC-17 rating is the kiss of death sales-wise. They may release an unrated edition for the dvd release, but there's no way you'll see an NC-17 cut in theatres.

Violence is okay to the MPAA.. now bad words, there's where the problems of America are rooted to.

R. That's what it will be when the movie is released to theaters without any question. Might early cuts get an NC17? Sure. But there's no way it'll stay that way.

so true, took the words out of my post cause I swear I was going to write that in there.

resubmit the film editing out a few F#%# and so on and the R is set in the book.

It should be R here.

Tarantino said that the Japanese version will be unrated.

Wait, I take that back. He didn't say it will be unrated, but it will be a different cut. And I'm willing to bet that you'll see ALL the gory violence in the Japanese version.

and I bet if this info is true, disney/miramax will forbid us customers to get this version from hk retailers.

Of course Kill Bill has no chance at winning any Academy Awards in March. I mean who could claim that it has a chance.

Afterall, the Oscars are February 29 this year.

People say this constantly but how do we know that's really true? Because every film rated NC-17 didn't set the world on fire at the box office? What movies have been released with the NC-17 rating? Off the top of my head I can think of stuff like Henry & June, The Cook The Theif His Wife and Her Lover, Crash.... Nothing against these movies but they don't have much mainstream appeal. Crash could have been rated PG and the same six people would have paid to see it.

I think there's a chance alot more people would be interested in seeing the new NC-17 Quentin Tarantino kung-fu picture then the typical artsy-indie film made by some guy in the UK. I think it could be released with NC-17 and still do fine. It would take longer to get it's gross as it would be playing in fewer theaters. But it would certainly bring in more bank than Wild Sergrassa Sea.

Also, if a film like this was to be released with an NC-17 and do well financialy, many studios and theater chains may re-evaluate their no NC-17 film policy.

Miramax and Tarantino seem to have a good relationship with the MPAA (ie. their films are treated a little bit more leniently), so Kill Bill probably won't have to much trouble securing an R rating.
And yes, Thurman's statements are just an example of the Hollywood hype machine starting to roll for this film.

lesterlong: "Kill Bill is not good enough for the oscars"

Why did anyone even consider KillBill as an "Oscar-film" in the first place?

It's friggin' B-movie homage!!!

Seriously, I think alot of people still consider it to be another Pulp Fiction or Jackie Brown, which is absolutely not what the movie will be.

All of this "This movie is a pure vein splittin, organ slicing, fluid flowing, head choppin, vomit inducing, crap in your pants BLOODBATH" is kinda gettting annoying. Tarantino movies didnt need this before and I dont think they do now.

Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown certainly weren't those sorts of movies, but perhaps Kill Bill is.

R. I mean, if Brave Heart gets a R, how bad can Kill Bill be? Scarface is violent too, but it's still a R. It's violent, but not disturbing like Irreversible. Now, that movie's just sick.

If kill bill were oscar material... I WOULDN'T WANT TO WATCH IT!

Well as long as they don't show a tit or anything, it will get an R. Just don't show a tit. We don't want our kids to be unduly influenced.

If the movie gets a NC-17 rating, they will definitely cut off the violent part to get it down to R rating for theater release. Then in the DVD release, they will put back the violent scenes. This is how they do it for other movies. No reason to expect anything different.

I agree. However, I still think that 90% of the people who have heard about this movie still have no clue what type of movie it is. Everyone who is a fan should read this months new Fangoria for the exclusive Tarantino interview & the pics. This movie in terms of mainstream release, may be the most voilent movie ever released. This movie is nothing more than Tarantino's ode to splatterhouse film. It's wasn't made to get Oscar nominees or critical praise. This was made simply for Tarantino's love of this type of film. And that is all the more reason I'm so psyched & have had a quote from the movie in my sig for a very long time. This is everything I want in a movie.

Splitting it in two affects the rating because the MPAA does keep track of the *total number* of violent/profane/lewd acts in a movie and use that as a factor when deciding on the rating.

That is, it's easier to get R ratings for two films with one beheading and two disembowlments each than it is to get an R rating for a combined film with two beheadings and four disembowlments.

Sessa17, there is much wisdom in what you say, though I think you might have gone too far in the opposite direction. You sound like you'll be terribly disappointed if every single frame isn't drenched in blood.

It may not be true, but that doesn't matter if the studios think it's true. You are probably correct when you say that all it would take is one wildly successful NC-17 film to break this attitude. Still, execs would wonder how much better it would have done with an R-rating.

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