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Old 09-02-03 | 10:04 PM
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HELP. Watch Barry Lyndon or go straight to The Shining?

Never seen BL before but I read the description on the back of the box and it looks terribly boring(no offense Mr Kubrick)! Check it out anyway or pass?
Old 09-02-03 | 10:08 PM
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Re: HELP. Watch Barry Lyndon or go straight to The Shining?

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Never seen BL before but I read the description on the back of the box and it looks terribly boring(no offense Mr Kubrick)! Check it out anyway or pass?
It's a great film, probably my favorite Kubrick. Yes, it's slow but it's beautifully crafted, exquisite and, to me, mesmerizing.

Still, I realize it's not for everyone. The only way to find out how it is for you is to watch it.

Edited for typo.

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Old 09-02-03 | 10:24 PM
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Skip The Shining, watch Barry Lyndon twice...
Old 09-02-03 | 10:30 PM
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Watch it a third time after that.
Old 09-02-03 | 10:45 PM
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I love the duel scene!
Old 09-02-03 | 11:57 PM
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Why don't you just, like, set fire to the Kubrick Collection, and go watch Malibu's Most Wanted, or something?
Old 09-03-03 | 12:01 AM
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Both are in color, so you're safe there. But given your prior posts on Kubrick I doubt you will enjoy either.
Old 09-03-03 | 12:28 AM
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O.K. FOR THE RECORD....

The Shining and Full Metal Jacket are among my top 5 favorite movies of all time! I have seen both at least 100 times! They are masterpieces! Eyes wide shut and A Clockwork Orange are also excellent films! If the box set only came with FMJ and The Shining I would still buy it! No way would I even think of burning it!

That said, I just watched BL and it simply wasn't for me. I can see how some of you might like it though. Same with Dr.S. It did nothing for me, but I could see why people may have loved it and acknowledge Kubrick's brilliance in the direction in the film.

I still have great respect for Kubrick, simply because he directed my favorite film of all time...The Shining. I kinda wish I could say that about all his films, but I can't, due to their setting, time period and style. I will keep the Kubrick box set forever! The guy was a genius! The Shining, ACO, 2001, EWS and FMJ alone prove this. And despite not being fond of the other films, I'll keep them and maybe even give them another chance sometime down the road.


I have one last question...why in the world was Sparticus not included in the box set? Never seen Sparticus, but curious nonetheless.
Old 09-03-03 | 01:03 AM
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Kubrick disowned Spartacus. I don't know if that had anything to do with it, maybe Universal didn't want to cooperate with the set.
Old 09-03-03 | 02:40 AM
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From your reaction to the description in the back you probably will find it boring.

I love all his films but Barry Lyndon is my favorite by Kubrick. Everything about that film is just fantastic. The pace, the mood, the music, and the story. It certainly isn't for everyone but neither are many of his films. I didn't "get" Eyes Wide Shut until I saw it the second time although Barry Lyndon's impact was immediate. The strength of certain Kubrick films like Barry Lyndon, Clockwork Orange, and Eyes Wide Shut builds after you've retained memory of them and revisit the film. They both have dream like timeless qualities to them and works in similar ways that Ridley Scott's Bladerunner did for me.

His most accessible films are Full Metal Jacket, The Shining, Dr Strangelove, Spartacus, and to a degree 2001. But if you want to get a full appreciation for Kubrick's broad range Barry Lyndon is a must and A Clockwork Orange as well. Watch those side by side.

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Old 09-03-03 | 06:32 AM
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I say if you're a Kubrick fan then go for it. I really enjoyed Barry Lyndon and if you're a fan like me then I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
Old 09-03-03 | 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by isamu
O.K. FOR THE RECORD....

The Shining and Full Metal Jacket are among my top 5 favorite movies of all time! I have seen both at least 100 times!
FOR THE RECORD ..... I find it amazing that you would watch two of the films 100 times each, consider them among your top 5 films of all time, and until now not have bothered to watch his other movies even once, and then question whether you should watch some of them at all.
Old 09-03-03 | 09:46 AM
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I think it took me about five years before I made it through Barry Lyndon. Every year or so I'd rent it, watch maybe twenty minutes or half an hour, then turn it off, being so turned off by it. To quote isamu, I was probeby thinking 'Boy the Kubester sure cooked up a clunker with that one'

The about two years ago, with a ten year old pan-and-scan VHS tape, I sat down to give it another try and was sucked into this movie like it was a pit of quicksand. Slowly I went deeper and deeper, unable to free myself. I don't know if it was the mood I was in, or if it's just that I was older, but I finally got Barry Lyndon.

And yeah tor_greg, the duel scene is one of my favorites in movies.
Old 09-03-03 | 10:22 AM
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Barry Lyndon was the first dvd I ever bought.

I've purchased it twice more since then, lol (eventually I sold my few single Kubrick titles on dvd and all my videos and bought the first dvd set, and then i sold that for the second dvd set).

I have problems picking my favorite Kubrick film because he is my favorite director (I usually juggle between Barry Lyndon, 2001, and Eyes Wide Shut and change my mind based on what mood I am in).....but more often than not I go for Barry Lyndon.
Old 09-03-03 | 11:30 AM
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Im going to have to learn to stay out of these Kubrick threads... Not good for the blood pressure.

Barry Lyndon is a great film, it is technically stunning. Stunning.

Spartacus is owned by Universal, not Warner or Columbia, hence... It's not in the box. The Killing, Paths Of Glory and Killer's Kiss are owned by MGM, not Warner or Columbia, hence... They are not in the box.

Given that Barry and 2001 are not your thang, I would suggest skipping Spartacus completely. You should, however, watch Paths of Glory and The Killing.

As for Kubrick's films... Personally, I think that Full Metal Jacket is one of his weaker efforts... Still an excellent film which I have seen many times but it's not a great one IMHO. That says a lot about the man's body of work.

And what the heck... isamu, may I ask your age? I find that a lot of the younger generation (I'm 33) of DVD enthusiasts can approach and "get" FMJ, The Shining and - to an extent - Clockwork. But it takes a more patient observer to understand and appreciate 2001, Barry Lyndon, Spartacus, etc... I'm not saying this to diss you, just an observation that the younger crowd does not warm that well to slower, technical and introspective epic length films. If you're in your 30's though, forget everything I just said...
Old 09-03-03 | 01:10 PM
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I feel pity for anyone who cannot appreciate the masterpiece that Barry Lyndon is. I can't put it any more diplomatically.
Old 09-03-03 | 06:11 PM
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Jepthah...easily my favorite Kubrick film....it is simply one of the most stunning pieces of cinema i've ever seen.
Old 09-03-03 | 06:44 PM
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Guess I'll have to watch Barry Lyndon... I've been a fan of Kubrick since I can remember, but always avoided that one cuz it looked boring.
Old 09-03-03 | 09:10 PM
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As has been mentioned, Spartacus isn't in the box largely because of the studio who owns it. Only Dr. Strangelove is not a WB film in the set.

As for Lyndon, I've only seen it once, but it was my least favorite of the Kubrick films. That's not to say it's a bad film in my book, but I strongly prefer other of his works. I should give it a second try though, just haven't done so yet.
Old 09-03-03 | 09:33 PM
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Why don't you just, like, set fire to the Kubrick Collection, and go watch Malibu's Most Wanted, or something?
Arent you overreacting a little? Jeez.
Old 09-04-03 | 12:36 AM
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You should, however, watch Paths of Glory and The Killing.
I would agree, except that in a thread about "Dr. Strangelove," isamu expressed his distaste for black and white movies. It was one of his reasons for skipping "Lolita," which he dismissed because it "looks outright old and dumb."

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Old 09-04-03 | 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by Mr. Salty
I would agree, except that in a thread about "Dr. Strangelove," isamu expressed his distaste for black and white movies. It was one of his reasons for skipping "Lolita," which he dismissed because it "looks outright old and dumb."


In that case, the age question has been answered and I retract my recommendations. Forget I even mentioned em'. Yeah, why the hell did you buy the boxset to begin with?

In fact, what the hell am I doing in this thread again! Ack!
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