For my fellow XBox brethren:

11/15/01: 26 Titles for Launch

4x4 Evolution 2
Airforce Delta Storm
Amped: Freestyle Snowboarding
Arctic Thunder
Cel Damage
Dark Summit
Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX 2
Dead Or Alive 3
Fusion Frenzy
Halo
Kabuki Warriors
Mad Dash Racing
Madden 2002
Max Payne
Nascar Heat 2002
Nascar Thunder 2002
NFL Fever 2002
NHL Hitz 2002
Oddworld: Munch’s Oddysey
Project Gotham Racing
Shrek
Simpson’s Road Rage
Star Wars: Starfighter SE
Test Drive Offroad: Wide Open
Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 2X
Transworld Surf

11/20/01: 1 Title

MX 2002: Featuring Ricky Carmichael

11/27/01: 1 Title

Azurik: Rise of Perathia

12/04/01: 8 Titles

Batman: Vengeance
ESPN NFL PrimeTime 2002
NBA Live 2002
NFL 2K2
NFL Blitz 2002
Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams
Star Wars: Obi-Wan
Tetris Worlds

12/11/01: 2 Titles

NHL 2002
UFC: Tapout

12/18/01: 1 Title

SSX Tricky

12/26/01: 3 Titles

Blood Wake
Nightcaster
WWF: Raw Is War

December TBA: 1 Title

F1 2001

And how many out of those do you consider quality games (non-multiconsole games I'm talking) other than Halo, Project Gotham, DoA3, etc.?

Tis sad that Raw is War has gone to after Christmas. I think this game will suck, any word on what type of engine they're using in there (Smackdown, No Mercy or a new one)?

*Sigh* I knew this type of reply was coming.

Anyway, I will list the XBox only games that seem impressive to me besides the big players that you named.

Amped, Azurik. Dark Summit, Transworld Surf, Oddworld, Fever, Fusion Frenzy, UFC Tapout, Blood Wake, Nightcaster, WWF: Raw Is War, and Mad Dash Racing.

The ports and multi-console games that impress me are Tony Hawk 2X, Starfighter SE, Max Payne, Dave Mirra, Silent Hill 2, NFL Blitz 2002. These games have been shown to be improved for the XBox.

Other ports will be good, just not using the XBox's extra power such as Batman Vengence, SSX Tricky, anything from EA Sports.

Some games will be really bad like Arctic Thunder, Cel Damage, 4x4 Evo 2, and Simpson's Road Rage.

As for Raw is War, it will be graphically impressive. As for the Game Engine, it is new I think. The game is made by the same people that made UFC for the Dreamcast. Also, I wouldn't be suprised if they finished it early for the Holiday rush. This list will change several times until Dec. 26th rolls around.

None so far, I'm hoping X-box gets some good exclusives next year. But it doesn't look real promising. Most third party companies want to make more money by releasing their games on all three next-gen platforms. Sony has Square and GT, Nintendo has their first party games, Rare and Resident Evil, Microsoft has yet to gain any huge exclusive deals with any developer or game series. Right now they have Halo, Oddworld, and Shenmue II. I'm getting a Gamecube at launch because I've always loved Nintendo and Rare games, I'll hold off on X-box. If it gets some big exclusives, I'll get one next year. I hope it does well, as I want all three systems to be pretty much equally successful. The competition between three successfull systems would mean tons of great games for us. Look how many great games we got during the SNES/Genisis war. That period has still not been rivaled IMO. However, a tight 3 system console war would probably blow that period out of the water in the terms of great, innovative A+ titles.

I agree with you there. The increased competition between these 3 giants will only bring about high quality games for every system.

Sorry, you leave yourself open for it. Every day there's something new about the X-Box that you post here. I've kept myself pretty quiet these last few weeks, but this game lineup just does not impress me. I'm still going to wait until the new year to possibly buy an X-Box.

I won't go into a big thing here about most of the games you talked about, but I do wish to hone in on Raw is War and the multi-console games.

"Graphically impressive" does not a great game make. Look at WWF Royal Rumble on DC. The game had great graphics, but boy did the game and gameplay just suck. This was supposed to be a launch game, now it is late December? I would say stay away until a review comes out. Had they stayed a course with a proven engine, things might be good...but be very hesitant.

The UFC people give it a small glimmer of hope though.

Tony Hawk 2X - a year old, is anyone really going to buy it for the improved graphics, new courses, etc. when they can go out and get THPS3 for PS2, PSOne (this version sucks) and GC well before the X-Box even sees it in early 2002?

Starfighter SE - is anybody going to buy this? The only people I see buying it is people that already don't have the PS2 and/or the game. Improved graphics? Not worth $50 when I already own the original

Max Payne - Max Payne will not sell well, the people who want to play this have already played it on PC. It was a slightly overhyped game, but a good game nonetheless. The PS2 version is out before X-Box though, so once again this is a matter of are you going to wait for the X-Box version?

Dave Mirra 2 - Same as Max Payne (minus the PC port)

Silent Hill 2 X-Box - The oddity in this lineup. This I will agree is worth the purchase if you already don't own it for the PS2. However, I'm still not high on the SH2 bandwagon even though I own the game. The idea of more gameplay is a great incentive though. This is one that would be worth $50 if you already don't own the PS2 version.

NFL Blitz 2002 - I'm not sure what is improved on this. NFL Blitz used to be fun, but year after year gets old.

Once again, suffering from the "I already own it on PS2 before it even comes out on X-Box"

As for your first-party titles you talked about, I don't know if they will sell well or not. They are very niche-like titles (Azurik) or have competition on other consoles or the X-Box itself (Amped, Fever).

And Dark Summit is coming to PS2 first I believe...yes, 2 days early. And don't say that's no big deal, the game buying crowd is a fickle crowd.

I also agree with everyone that this competition will produce great games. However, 3 systems have never survived at the same time...we shall see if things are different on this cycle.

I feel like I have to post pro-XBox material due to the seemingly anti-Xbox feeling around this forum.

Anyway, it may suprise you to find out that some people don't actually own a PS2. I used to own one until I sold it to help pay for my XBox preorder. I figure why bother with a PS2 when I can get these types of games for the Xbox

1. Great PS2 ports like GTA3 and SH2 with more likely to come.

2. Excellent 1st party titles, Halo, DOA3, PGR at launch. Many others in the future such as Brute Force, Rallisport, and Project Ego just to name a few.

3. Multi-console games that will look just as good if not better on the XBox.

4. Sequal Exclusives such as House of the Dead 3, Dino Crisis 3, Shenmue II and Unreal Championship.

5. PC/XBox releases; such as MOH: AA, Doom 3, and Ghost Recon. There is also a rumor in the mix that Blizzard is working on 3 games to take to the XBox. Diablo II or WofW anyone? The same person that broke this rumor broke the news about Shenmue II about 3 weeks before it happened.

You seem to use time as a factor in your response. For instance, why buy TH3 for the XBox when you can get is for the PS2 or Gamecube first? Well I don't mind waiting for better graphics, expanded gameplay, and extra features. Silent Hill 2 is getting that treatment.

I always ask Why buy the PS2 version when you can get the best on the XBox with a little patience? That question just falls back to your comment on the game buying crowd being fickle. I know I don't want to buy a version of Silent Hill 2 for the PS2 when an expanded version is coming out for the XBox.

I know some people don't own a PS2, however there is a large install base for the PS2 already. I feel sorry for you that you sold your PS2. At least if I do buy an X-Box I will also own a PS2 still.

Whoo..."ports". See, there's the problem, it's a "port". I already agree with you with SH2 because of the fact there is more gameplay in the X version.

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4. Sequal Exclusives such as House of the Dead 3, Dino Crisis 3, Shenmue II and Unreal Championship.

Shenmue II is the only one I am interested in and because of backstabbing the DC owners (such as myself), this is not one reason I'll be buying an X-Box. HotD are short shooting games and Dino Crisis was never really a great series.

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5. PC/XBox releases; such as MOH: AA, Doom 3, and Ghost Recon. There is also a rumor in the mix that Blizzard is working on 3 games to take to the XBox. Diablo II or WofW anyone? The same person that broke this rumor broke the news about Shenmue II about 3 weeks before it happened.

This is, IMO, the wrong way to go. MS should not be trying to divide the PC and console gaming world. I own a PC and enjoy playing it and I will buy those games on PC well before I will buy them on X-Box. MS has always said that the X-Box is a console, funny but they're sure making it out to be a small PC which is exactly what they don't want you to think.

Are you a PC game player? I'm just wondering, because that is where you get the patient gamer. In the PC world you constantly live in a place where games are pushed back all the time and you have to have a little patience. In the console biz, there is no such thing as patience in this day and age. The median age of console players is less than the median age of PC players, and with the younger skew you get less patience.

If you own no console at this time, the X-Box may be a good idea. However, the system that has the better games at this time is the PS2. Yes, it's a had a year to bring the great games out, but let's see how the X-Box is doing with games in a year. Let's see if they have groundbreaking games and not just "ports" of PS2 games that were made a year before.

However, if you own a PS2 at this time, are you going to buy an X-Box and wait those extra days/weeks/months for your port of the next hot game to come out when it's already out on PS2? Not in this day and age...you have to have the new thing now or you're going to be old news in a few weeks.

Console games do not have the longevity of PC games in this day and age...console games are very flash in the pan usually. The great games usually stand out, but not always.

Here's a story that I picked up on another forum. It's Newsweek's review of the X-Box which is in this week's magazine:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/648811.asp

I wish the X-Box a lot of luck, but I won't be buying one at this time. I need to be shown something EXCLUSIVE that I will really like and not be shown ports of games I will already own or buy for the PS2 before the X-Box whether the graphics are better or not. Too many iffy things around it while the proven companies in the industry can still be relied on.

"Too many iffy things around it while the proven companies in the industry can still be relied on."

Just as many iffy things that surrounded an electonics maker by the name of Sony when they decided to release a console by the name of Playstation many years ago. At that point in time, everyone knew Sony could never beat Sega or Nintendo. But look what happened there.

It seems like there is a lot of anti-XBox sentiment around the internet in general. Personally, i was all for the GameCube when I heard they had exclusive rights to the Resident Evil Series. I told myself I'd pick up an XBox later. But after doing research on the XBox and GC (I've owned a PS2 since launch), I decided to go with the XBox right now. It has games and features I'm interestred in. I'll pick up a GC when RE, Metroid, or Perfect Dark comes out.

Although, my Girlfriend might want a GC so she can play Rogue Squadron... she's a bigger Star Wars fan than I am.

However, Sony was in cahoots with Nintendo until Nintendo shunned them at the last minute. Nevermind the fact that the Playstation was a revolutionary step beyond the SNES and Genesis (both 16-bit systems). The Saturn was hurt by Sega not supporting it...that was the only competition the Playstation had early on. The Dreamcast died because people were burned too many times by Sega and then they decided to not put their resources into the correct market (the US). If they had, maybe the Dreamcast would have survived. I bought a Dreamcast because I loved Sega...they've really burned their bridges with Shenmue II though.

With the PS2, GameCube and X-Box there's a pretty level playing field with the latter two having better graphic capabilities. And I say capabilities because developers have to use that capability to their advantage and show that this game is better than what Sony and it's powerful 3rd-party army is putting out. The quality of the games will win this war. Ultimately, I think Sony has more resources than Microsoft with development houses unless MS goes out and buys premier developers out and take them away from Sony.

The Playstation took a long time to come out #1. The Genesis and SNES did not have the huge install base when they died that the Playstation had when the PS2 came out. In fact, I think if you add the number of Genesis' and SNES' sold, the Playstation would still come out on top. Right now it will be very hard for the X-Box or GameCube to overcome the install base the PS2 has.

Sony is where it is because of it's powerful 3rd party support. Microsoft needs exclusive 3rd party support. They badly needed Square in their corner. Square going to the PS was the trigger for the Playstation's dominance. Before FF7, console RPGs were a very niche genre...now everyone wants FF. Square did not get the advertising from Nintendo that they do from Sony.

Microsoft has NO history in this market. Sony was a pioneer in CD development and one of the collaborators on the DVD medium. Every DVD remote that is sold for the X-Box sends extra royalty money to Sony and other companies on top of the royalty money Sony and other companies get with MS selling the X-Box with it's DVD capabilities.

You know why Nintendo went with the smaller DVD in the GameCube? So they wouldn't have to pay royalties to Sony.

Microsoft has no hardware experience (other than PC controllers), Sony has tons (electronic equipment, PCs, notebooks, etc.)...even before they came out with the Playstation.

I am a bit surprised this was the only piece of my rebuttal to you that you commented on...I figured you'd rebut more than this.

Serious question for you. Since you own a PS2, would you be more likely to buy the PS2 or X-Box version of the same game if the PS2 version came out a month+ ahead of time.

What games are you interested in with the X-Box at launch? Before the end of the year? In the future?

As for Rogue Squadron 2, you won't be missing much. It's the same old, same old from LucasArts in this genre. The graphics are awesome, but it's the same old gameplay.

I really got to give it up for the x-box. I believe that people who own a PS2 won't be interested in the x-box for the most part but, being mainly a PC gamer I've been really impressed with x box launch titles. Halo, Gotham racing, amped, DOA3, Unreal championship, brutal, Nfl Fever look out of this world. Graphics are almost as important as gameplay and the x-box really shines here, the broadband down the line also shows promise. The thing I'm most eager for though is real time 5.1 surrond sound. No system even on PC has ever done this and this is a HUGE point to me. I wish it was mentioned more often. My roommate owns PS2 and some of the games are really impressive. The 1 game that put me in awe was Turrismo. Game cube Rogue squadron looks breathtaking but has similar gameplay to the prequel?? Wave race looks all right but that's it. RS2 definately has the wow factor going. X-box just looks the most promising to me. I hate microsoft but for entertainment reasons I think with thier budget they will do anything possible to win the consoile war. This will lead us to better games because they want the lead in consoles. I think all consoles have thier place but the x-box has the lead tecnology wise and has the most money backing it.
I think the main reason we have so many people bashing x-box is because 1. it's microsoft-david versus goliath. 2. Many people own a ps2 so of course they are defensive about thier system. How would you like to spend $299 for a system and then here theres a better system more advanced? I'd thrash it too.
Finally these consoles are great for different people. PS2 and X-box seem to be aimed at the same age group while gamecube is targeting the younger crowd so when they realease there next console they'll have the lder crowd remembering thier first console the gamecube. Similar to now and many remembering the original NES. Sorry for the rant all, my views only

I am a bit surprised this was the only piece of my rebuttal to you that you commented on...I figured you'd rebut more than this.

I was busy at work, but I have hit another dry spell so rebut I shall.

Originally posted by AgtFox

I know some people don't own a PS2, however there is a large install base for the PS2 already. I feel sorry for you that you sold your PS2. At least if I do buy an X-Box I will also own a PS2 still.

No need to feel sorry for me. I don't feel like I am missing anything. GTA3 is a great game, but I will wait until the XBox version fixes the framerate problems. DMC is a rental at best, due to the shortness of the actual game. MGS2 may make me want my PS2 back, but with the rumor of an enhanced XBox version, I will be waiting instead. I have already played GT3 to death, so what's left really?

Whoo..."ports". See, there's the problem, it's a "port". I already agree with you with SH2 because of the fact there is more gameplay in the X version.

There also is extra gameplay in Tony Hawk 2x and Starfighter. Ports have only gotten better by coming to the XBox. Hell, even crappy Arctic Thunder will be better on the XBox.

Shenmue II is the only one I am interested in and because of backstabbing the DC owners (such as myself), this is not one reason I'll be buying an X-Box. HotD are short shooting games and Dino Crisis was never really a great series.

Oh, wah, wah! Cry and moan about Shenmue II all you want, but when it comes out for the XBox, you will change your tune. I see you didn't mention 32 player online UC from my list. Dino Crisis isn't as good as the RE series, but it is better than the rest of the knock-offs.

This is, IMO, the wrong way to go. MS should not be trying to divide the PC and console gaming world. I own a PC and enjoy playing it and I will buy those games on PC well before I will buy them on X-Box. MS has always said that the X-Box is a console, funny but they're sure making it out to be a small PC which is exactly what they don't want you to think.

I won't be playing those games on my PC because I don't want to upgrade my video card yet again. And if the XBox is a PC in disguise, why no keyboard, mouse, internet surfing, and even a word processor like the PS2 just got?

Are you a PC game player?

Yes, but I prefer consoles.

Here's a story that I picked up on another forum. It's Newsweek's review of the X-Box which is in this week's magazine:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/648811.asp

Funny you should mention that story written by 2 Japanese men that are at least 30 years old. I will stick to people that have actually played the XBox and its games.

I knew the X-Box would be better hardware-wise before I ever bought my PS2. Didn't matter to me.

I am also a PC game player and have been disappointed since day 1 when Halo went from it's promising PC release to a neutered X-Box release. I could have had Halo a year ago or more had the PC development continued. Now we have a Halo with no multiplayer element, the crown jewel of the original idea behind Halo in my opinion.

Honestly, I could care less if X-Box goes on to beat the PS2 and GameCube, I just want them to show me other games that will interest me. Microsoft's best games from the computer world (Age of Empires 1 and 2) would not work very well in a console world. Once they show me something I will buy an X-Box. Right now they aren't showing me something better than the PS2 games that have come out or are coming out.

Everyone will be happy with what they buy, I truly believe that. However, there needs to be a devil's advocate/counterpoint to these threads. I have no bones about saying a PS2 game sucks if it indeed does. Problem is at this time and in the near future, there are several AAA titles coming for the PS2 and they are more numerous than X-Box or GameCube have.

As for your David vs. Goliath analogy. Microsoft is only Goliath on the money side of things. Sony is no spring chicken when it comes to money though. Sony is the Goliath in the industry right now and they have a lot of powerful companies backing them. Some of these companies are also backing the X-Box, but they are sticking to "porting" games over because all that equals is more sales of said title.

We all have different likes in games. Many people will like the X-Box offerings, many will like PS2, many will like GC. But history shows one of these systems will not make it. PS2 is ahead by a wide margin, GC has a legion of people that stand behind Nintendo...Microsoft is new and many are apprehensive about it. And remember, history also shows that the most powerful system usually doesn't survive. Will history repeat itself? It shall be interesting to watch.

This is my last post on this until release unless something big comes up I need to rebut.

The reason I didn't talk about Unreal is because I've never really been into that sort of game. It's great that the X-Box will have it because I know lots of people love that and Arena.

I will not change my tune about Shenmue 2. That game will not make me get an X-Box.

See, the thing is you need to SHOW me something to make me get the X-Box. I read things about it every day and it doesn't get me any more excited than the day before.

Are you also saying that people that are 30 years old are not allowed to have an opinion on the X-Box or gaming in general? I don't think that will fly well with the general populace.

I agree with you on the last count AgtFox. I don't have the cash for an upgraded vid card or processor or anything, and I don't have the time to fix it up even if I did.

I'm really looking forward to Morrowind - the be all to end all RPG. Looks like a lot of fun.

Also, as a 1st party exclusive, Fusion Frenzy looks like it'll be a really fun multiplayer party game. worth a rental at least.

Blood Wake looks like my Christmas present to me ;p

Tuan Jim

Bungie already said they may provide online ability in a add on disk or an online update for the XBox version. And the version will certainly not be neutered. The XBox version will make the Pc version look silly.

Have you watched any of the interviews with Bungie about Halo? I quote" The XBox allows us to program on a level playing field with maximum graphical quality. The PC version will have to be set up to handle a miminum set of specs and will hinder the quality of the single and multi player game."

They like the XBox because it allows a better quality game.


No, they certainly are. But people who haven't even touched the XBox or its games shouldn't be allowed to spread their opinon about something they know nothing about. It is quite obvious from their comments that they have not tested the games they speak of.

Well, its not like I can pull reviews out of my butt. What do you want to see? Movies? Screenshots? Reviews? Hands-on experiences? Xbox sites to visit? What will convince you?

AgtFox I came in here late but appreciate your balanced logical view. I think we can all agree that eaxh console has it's strong points. I was really disappointed when Halo for the PC was delayed and the lack of MP bugs me about the X-box, I do think it will be added throughy software though, a possibilty because of the hard drive. One thing about the X-box I like is the fact that were paying $299 for a system where $299 would buy maybe that graphics card and memory for a new PC. I still have a TNT2 ultra because the hardware changes so frequently. With a console hardware is consistent. Finally even if Microsopft fails to take the crown for consoles and they don't live up to expectations they have all ready committed to spending anywhere between 5-10 billion on the X-box so even if it doesn't sell, which I doubt, they'll keep supporting iut anyways this won't be like the dreamcast.

Not asking for reviews, movies, screenshots or hands-on experiences. I've seen all those (well, not reviews and I've had my own hands-on experience...although I would like to play something better than Munch). What I want is for them to announce something that will excite me, whether it be a new game on an established line that is exclusive only to them (I am not talking enhancements to games here) or a new game with new ideas that will excite me.

Halo, much like Unreal, is not my type of game. But I do realize Halo will be a good to great game because Bungie hasn't disappointed yet. It's one of the must-have games for the launch along with Project Gotham.

Gotham Racing is interesting, but I think you'll be as bored with that as you are with GT3. I still find GT3 great and even though I've beaten the game I still go back and play it.

It sure seems to me like the writers of that article had played some of the games, although probably not all. I am also very jaded by the Official X-Box Magazine. Some of the people they chose to write for it are not very good in my opinion. Some of them also write in other Imagine magazines, but I hop right over their reviews.

You and I just have different degrees of patience. I am willing to wait for the X-Box to show me something, you are willing to wait for X-Box games to come out because they have improvements over the PS2 version.

We're in the same boat, one on the starboard side and one on the aft side. You got rid of your PS2 for the X-Box, I've kept my PS2 and am apprehensive about the X-Box. I'll get my PS2 games and you'll get your X-Box games and X-Box ported games. We will both be happy in the end, won't we?

Devil May Cry

One more note before I leave work to go and see if I can get Civilization 3 today for my PC. Devil May Cry has gotten a very bad rap with it's "shortness". Fact is, most games today are short and if you look back to the earlier generations of systems (Atari 2600, NES, etc.) those games were usually short.

Flay, you should at least try to play Devil May Cry. I will make a deal with you...I will rent an X-Box and play some games if you will rent a PS2 and play Devil May Cry and Ico (two vasty different genres, both "short" but worthwhile games). Do not take the "Easy" difficulty in DMC and see how you do. Then when you beat the game, go onto the next challenge (beating it in hard) and then play it again (in Dante Must Die mode) and then again (when you can play as Super Dante). There is a huge replayability factor in Devil May Cry...this is no Resident Evil. Oh yes, and try to find all the Secret Missions in the game too...nevermind get all the trick upgrades.

Devil May Cry is a spiritual successor to such games as Contra and Castlevania. It's just fun to play...try it out, I think you'll like it.

I agree with you here on all your points. I condensed it down a bit, but I'm not replying to just what is said above.

You are right about the PC upgrades. The X-Box is a cheaper way of going. But MS doesn't want you to think of the X-Box as a small computer even though it has all the normal PC-type chips in it. They want you to believe the PS2 is more of a computer than the X-Box. Truth is, all consoles are computers, they just don't need gut upgrades (processors, video cards, memory) usually. MS wants you to believe the PS2 is more of a computer though because of the USB ports and partnerships with AOL, Real, etc. for their On-line plans.

I have been down the video card upgrade path many times and fully agree with what you said.

If the X-Box doesn't do well I would be interested to see if MS would still back something that is bleeding money like that. They eliminated Digital Anvil because it was bleeding money and I doubt FreeLancer will ever be what it was going to be even though Chris Roberts is still a consultant. That's just my opinion though and purely Computer based.

You guys have got the right idea here that it's the games that matter, not what the shiny badge says on the face of the hardware device. I hope none of the systems monopolizes the videogame industry because that's nothing but bad news for you and me.
As an interesting side note I would like to add, it may be true that Microsoft has little-to-no experience in the videogame hardware world but do you really think the minds that lack this kind of experience are the ones actually designing the console?
Also, I still don't see how calling the XBOX a small computer is going to affect it's outcome in the market. Call it a PC...heck, call it a George Foreman toaster oven; it looks like one. What matters is if it can deliver what gamers are looking for. I just don't understand why Microsoft is pushing for this "non-PC" image as if computer gaming is a horrible thing.

By the way, the title of this thread ought to be changed to "Flay vs. AgtFox".

That's the truth. I started a thread about the dates of upcoming XBox games and it became a console and game discussion. LOL!

That's what happens when we got joshinkle and AgtFot around here to jump in and throw in there 2 cents about the GC/PS2 every time the Xbox is mentioned, even when you say a thread is for Xbox fans.

Depends on the game... If the XBox version had additional features, I can wait.

IMNSHO, the PS2 is *just* becomming worth the $299 I spent on it last October. I finished every game I purchased in the past year in about 5 hours or so. Except Madden. And the only reason I played that was because I'm a football fanatic (there are too many ways you can cheat the system... and the computer is cheap )

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What games are you interested in with the X-Box at launch? Before the end of the year? In the future?

At launch

Halo (I have friends who work at Bungie... I got to see it and fool with it in it's alpha version before Microsoft bought them out... I've been hooked ever since)

Max Payne (At an early age, my father drilled into my skull that computers are for work, game machines are for games. And I like "noir-ish" games)

DOA 3 (Looks beautiful, and I loved DOA on the Dreamcast (*sniff*)
Oddworld (I'm not a big platformer fan)

Before the end of the year:
Star Wars: Obi-Wan (GF and I are both Star Wars Fans)
UFC: Tapout (GF and I like UFC... We both are martial artists)
SSX Tricky (I want to fool around with the music)
WWF: Raw Is War (It looks really good. I don't like the arcade-ish feel of Smackdown)

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As for Rogue Squadron 2, you won't be missing much. It's the same old, same old from LucasArts in this genre. The graphics are awesome, but it's the same old gameplay.

Yeah.. it's not me, it's the GF... She'll say "Get what you want", but I know she loves Star Wars games. I need to get Starfighter for the PS2 back from my friend.