I really don't care as I don't like car combat games, but X-box really needs to hold on to their exclusives if they want to be successful. Nintendo has Rare, their first party stuff, and Resident Evil, Sony has Square, GT, etc, Microsoft has very little so far. Halo, which will be on PC too as far as I know, and Shenmue II are about it. They have to get some "must-have" exclusive games to get my interest.

From www.fgnonline.com:


Cel Damage Sells Out

Gamecube: Once touted as an Xbox exclusive, Electronic Arts has confirmed that cartoon racer Cel Damage will be released on Gamecube. First screens inside.

The Xbox launch title will ship in mid-December for Gamecube and offer the same features already seen in the Xbox version.

With 12 levels, over 30 weapons and 10 characters, Cel Damage is bound to score well. Take a look at the first Gamecube screens below.

I doubt it will touch TMB, but more games on the Cube is good news.

The Gamecube can have all the sucky exclusives from the XBox they want. Microsoft will keep the good ones.

Cel Damage is a crappy game?! I am afraid so. The Offical XBox Magazine gave Cell Damage a 6.0. I don't think anyone was planning to buy this game for the XBox. Certainly not now since the bad review is out in the brand new OXM.

So have fun with Cel Damage on the Gamecube!

And here is an incomplete list of the console exclusive's Microsoft has for the XBox; since you seemed so worried:

Air Force Delta Storm Action
Amped: Freestyle Snowboarding
Azurik: Rise of Perathia
Blood Wake
Brain Box
Bruce Lee: Quest for the Dragon
Brute Force
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Championship Manager 4
Dead or Alive 3
Dino Crisis 3
Fellowship of the Ring, The
Fuzion Frenzy
Gaia Blade
Halo
House of the Dead 3
Hunter: The Reckoning
Jonny Drama Adventure
Murakumo Action
NBA Inside Drive 2002
New Legends
NFL Fever 2002
NHL Hockey
Nightcaster
Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee
Project Ego
Project Gotham Racing
Rallisport
Shrek
Shenmue II
Style Laboratory
TransWorld Skateboarding
TransWorld Snowboarding
Unholy, The
Unreal Championship
Warcaster
Xavier Fox: The Lost City

Halo, Project Ego and some others on that list are coming to PC. I wouldn't call them Xbox exclusive.....

Did I ever say XBox exclusive? Nope. I said CONSOLE exclusive's. You won't see Halo or Project Ego on the PS2 or the Gamecube.

If you want to talk about console exclusive XBox games that will be on the PC too, we could talk about Ghost Recon and Medal of Honor: Allied Assult. John Carmack also hinted to the Doom III will only be done on the XBox.

What ratings did it give for the other games that were in OXM? I'm just wondering.

Halo 9.5
DOA3 9.5
Project Gotham Racing 9.0
NFL Fever 2002 9.1
Madden 9.0
Tony Hawk 2X 8.8
Fusion Frenzy 7.8
Nascar Heat 8.1
Cel Damage 6.0
4x4 Evo 2 4.5 or 3.5 (something low)

I'm sorry, but I will never ever EVER believe that "Doom III" would only come to the X-box. Not until I see it on the shelves.

Please don't turn this into a system war thread. I said the X-box has no "must-have" exclusives, not any exclusives period. That's just my opinion. None of the games you listed interest me in the least. Where as the GC will have a ton of exclusive games that I want, namely RE, Nintendo first party games and Rare games. As you've said in the past, those don't appeal to you. So you'll be happy with the X-box and I'll be happy with the GC.

Did they actually play these games before rating them? If they gave a 9.0 to Gotham Racing, I put no value in their other ratings.

Ya, they played them. Microsoft gave them full access to the games for review.

Why do you question the 9.0 for PGR? IGN and Gamespot have given PGR really favorable impressions.

Actually, I haven't said that. I will be buying a GameCube for Rare's Perfect Dark 2, Conker, and possibly a new RE. I will be happy with a GameCube when the time comes and I will be happy with Halo, PGR, and Fever at the XBox launch. My happiness will reside in both systems.

Its the only one of those games that I've personally played for long enough to judge. I was not impressed (nor entertained). There were only a few people in the group of 20 or so that I was with that actually enjoyed it. *

* Disclaimer: This in no way means everyone (or anyone for that matter) won't like it. I hope you enjoy whatever games you end up getting.

How recently did you play the game? I only ask because they released the final version in the past week. According to Bizzare Creations, the makers of PGR, they optimized the graphics and made sure the frame rate stayed locked in at 60.

Did you not like the actual gameplay? The game is the sequal of Metropolis Street Racer for the Dreamcast. I can see if you didn't like MSR, you wouldn't like PGR.

I played it about a month or two months ago. The framerate didn't bother me. Yeah there was problems with it, but it was still being worked on, so I ignored it, nor would i expect it to be good.

The actual graphics during gameplay weren't very good. The backgrounds looked rather generic. I had seen the pictures beforehand that looked all nice, but I just didn't see it. Graphics aren't that important to me though. I still play my NES and Atari 2600 with regularity.

The course design was very average, at best. Nothing that made it stand out. Very much been-there-done-that kind of feel.

I liked the idea of the kudos system, but it didn't seem to be very well done.

I bet the graphics are significantly improved. Many gaming sites, such as IGN and Gamespot, have been noteing the massive improvement in the graphical detail of the cars and the city.

The gameplay has been rumored to have been tweaked too over the past month. Anyway, check it out again at launch. You may be plesantly suprised.